Jackson Jambalaya

Good grief.

If conspiracy theorist nutjobs weren't so damned annoying, I'd feel very sorry for them. You have to feel pretty powerless in your own life to latch on THAT TIGHTLY to such a fringe belief system.

People who refuse to believe in fate or providence or just plain luck HAVE to have someone to blame for the things in their life that have gone wrong. They need an enemy to blame for the things they don't like about the world. When they can't tie an individual to specific events, they then have to believe in a secret cabal of enemies who seek to destroy what is left in the world that they DO like. And they choose something that causes the rest of the world to react "WTF????" in response, because there is no self-esteem builder quite believing you are smarter than the rest of the world.

The worst conspiracy theorists are destined to end up alone -- as their cohorts start paying attention to reason and evidence, the hardcore ones then dismiss those people as "part of the conspiracy." It's a downward spiral that ends up with that lone nut finally putting on the tin foil hat.

The fact that she has been rejected in so many courts and in so many states only encourages her to take it further. Rejection by some sort of institution is the ultimate proof to conspiracy theorists that they are on the right track.

Sounds a bit like Shadowfax, "You're not listening to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak, your're not listenting to me, let me speak."

What a nutjob.

hey is that you HITLER @ 2:17

Is there an explanation for the SSN issue?

Anonymous 3:57 - there are several reasons that the original SSN (I'm sure he has had a new one issued since Taitz has plastered his old one all over the internet) would be a "Connecticut" number.

First there is no SSN rule that says the numbers mean anything; it was just a clerical convenience in the days before computers.

Second, the zip code from the President's address in Hawaii is one digit - 0 vs 9 - off from a Connecticut zip code, so a simple typo might be the cause.

The whole idea is ludicrous; if someone has been using someone else's SSN, you don't think the IRS would have noticed? Please.

This seems to be it, 3:57.

Poor Chester Arthur, getting dragged into this mess through no fault of his own.

Delta.

This forum is following the Mississippi Case. Read the comments. they are pretty damn funny. Link to forum.

Anyone want to join a conversation on the criticism of the media on this one?

While this woman clearly suffers from an overabundance of tin foil, the irresponsibility of CNBC is abhorrent. I'm curious why the Lefties/Progressives/"anyone that disagrees with them belittle them" folks can't leave a mentally disturbed person alone.

The CNBC video only solidifies the reality of fear by the left of people who actually think for themselves. Why else present this?

In the alternative, if they took her seriously, comparisons would not be made to AC and KR. Their fear is real. It is obvious.

Sorry for jumping to conclusions, but I look forward to the challenge.

They can't leave her alone because at their core "progressives" are bullies.

And, I just rehearsed this with my Jr. Kapt and he told me this is what he saw....

Note: Media Criticism

"Thank you for taking the time to speak with us today Mrs. SO and So."

"We have a question for you."

"Thank you Numbing News, what is your question?"

"Obviously, she will not answer the question, thus we had to cut the feed and we are on to the next story.... In other news, Hot Amish Chick strikes again."

Kangaroot; You would like me if you knew me.

Funny thing is I wouldn't jest if I didn't like you.

People...please...forget SSN numbers etc. These are "red herrings".

A female American citizen who gives birth, gives birth to an American citizen.

That's it.

It's that simple.

That fact of being the child of an American female citizen trumps EVERYTHING ELSE.

And, there is NO evidence that Obama's mother renounced her citizenship before his birth. Indeed, even those touting this nonsense, have NEVER tried to suggest she wasn't a citizen as that is just far too easy to debunk.

To renounce citizenship requires a lengthy process involving the State Dept. and the paper trail would be extensive in our country and in the country whose citizen she became. And, there would be people who remembered and could come forward.

At 18, to even be a dual citizen,which he could have been, Obama would have had to make applications in Kenya and here. Again, no paper trail and no people coming forward .

And, anyone who thinks the Clintons or McCain didn't have the power to find a paper trail, had it existed is naive beyond belief.

What this Taliz person is , since they are apparently a PhD or physician, is delusional or incredibly gullible or a political operative using The Big Lie theory in politics. People believe a big lie quicker than a small one, a little trick Goebbels used well.

Only a mentally ill or incredibly stupid person or gullible person would believe this nonsense.

ANYONE who promotes this nonsense should be suspect. You should not trust them in any way for anything important as there is something seriously wrong with their thought patterns.

I would certainly not let a physician who believed this near me so I hope this Dr. Taliz is NOT a medical doctor.

First Kangapoop, its MSNBC, not CNBC. Second, the host didn't do anything. She immediately launched into a rant. The host just got out of the way for awhile and let her speak. He didn't have to pick on her. Not at all. I don't think she did as she would not calm down.

I did not dismiss the ranting, but still take issue with "why beat a dead horse?" The lady is cuckoo for cocoa puffs and providing her the forum appears a bit self serving for the left to belittle her. It was just sad is all I'm saying.

I seriously thought her name was a joke, like the ORLY owl meme. What a looney.

KaptK, if it's all on the left, how do you explain the Lou Dobbs coverage of her? Or is your objection simply the fact that MSNBC ler her speak for herself?

She is the "face" of the birther movement so it is logical that she would be the one interviewed during a story on the topic.

SHE is the one beating the dead horse of the SSN and birth certificate, so why not put her on the air so everyone can see exactly what she is?

Delta

You people are all losers, providing nothing but shallow commentary. I'll bet there were many people who thought our founding fathers were misguided and looney at the time. I am thankful that our country allows us the opportunity to take action if we choose. Those who take no action other than to sit in their armchairs and criticize are, well, insignificant.

@12:38

Yes, people are allowed to say any stupid, inane thing they want to.

Ain't it grand!

Delta

"Anonymous said...
People...please...forget SSN numbers etc. These are "red herrings".


If it is all the same to you; I think I will follow the "red hearings" around for a little while. Like this one: If Barack Obama was an Indoniasina citizen, he would not have needed a Selective Service card in the first place. So Obama didn't have one. One had to be created and placed in the file.

If I recall, wasn't there someone murdered in connection with one or two break-ins over at the Selective Service database, and the head of the security firm that was suppose to guard these files is now working for Obama?

ex animo
davidfarrar

Thanks March 24, 2012 12:38 PM anonymous. You sure told us off.

More conspiracy theories from Farrar? Have you finally gotten tired of trying to defend your indefensible positions and moved onto a new set of wild accusations and insinuations?

So how's that 'empty table' appeal going for you? Any luck with your "prima facie" evidence yet?

Delta

farrar and batazoid...seriously...you both need help

INDONESIA? Are you kidding me? You can't even get your conspiracy facts right!

What is it about " an AMERICAN FEMALE CITIZEN'S BIOLOGICAL CHILD IS ALWAYS BORN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN" that you don't understand?

You are both either nuts or stupid or knowingly lying for political reasons. There are no other choices.

Farrar, where in the hell do you get this crazy stuff? Your " sources" of information either need Thorazine or successfully duping you.

Obama was NEVER eligible to be an Indonesian citizen. His father was Kenyan. His mother was a Kansas native living in Hawaii when she met Obama, Sr. , the father , in graduate school at the U. of Hawaii.

His father was employed in Kenya AFTER Obama was born in 1961. He and Obama's mother divorced when Obama was THREE years old. His mother worked in Indonesia where they had been living at the time of the divorce and sent him first to a public school and then to St Francis of Assisi...yeah...Catholic parochial school.

All of the above FACTS are well documented.


The Selective Service BS is literally invented by those who understand it's hard to prove that which doesn't exist and never happened . I can't prove purple pumkin eaters don't exist and eat humans also either but that doesn't mean they do.

I hope that's really your photo so I can stay FAR away from you. Who knows when you'll go " postal".

The qualifying deadline for MS was Jan. 14th, 2012. You can google it or look on the sec. of state's website.

The Democratic Party received the complaint on or before Jan. 24th, 2012.

INS records show 1 alien child from Kenya requesting a certificate of citizenship in 1961

INS records of arriving passengers missing for the week Obama was born in 1961

Stanley Ann Dunham's passport records prior to 1965 destroyed

Obama's passport records breached in 2008

Mary and Thomas Ayers pay for the education of a "black foreign" student. Obama shows up to thank them.

Numerous newspapers around the world and USA report that Obama is Kenyan born

The Kenyan birth records were tampered with according to Kenyan government officials.

Tim Adams affirms that both hospitals in HI have no records for Obama.

Obama's electronic images of birth certificates have been tampered with.

Michelle Obama refers to Kenya as Barack's home country on video twice. on youtube.

go to birtherreport.com for the truth

See Sheriff Arpaio's press conference Mar. 1, 2012 on youtube to see evidence of selective service forgery. If you want to dispute 500 selective service records from the exact same post office, go ahead. All of them had four digit dates except Obama's.

Awweee yeaaaa finally a good old fashion debate with documented facts and references to go with it. Please do proceed. Get the popcorn KK.

@9:27

So much fail in this rat's nest of crap, but I'll try until I get tired of typing.

Taitz's suit was filed Feb 14. It's the very first thing on the attached record that KF so thoughtfully supplied. You don't even have to click on it to see it, because it's THE VERY FIRST THING. Your "facts" go downhill from there.

INS records have nothing to do with anything, unless you are suggesting he is lying about who his mother is.

Are you implying that there was only one possible identity of a "black foreign student" in the US at the time? But it must be true if it was reported by a mailman.

The only newspapers which matter are the papers of record in HI. They both made contemporaneous birth announcements.

The only Kenyan birth records that have been tampered with are the ones which show he was born in Kenya.

Tim Adams has said a whole bunch of stuff which has all proven to be lies. His 15 minutes was up 6 months ago.

You're seriously using "data" gathered by people who have a financial interest in the outcome of the "investigation", headed by a man under Federal investigation himself? He can't investigate a simple assault case with the victim standing in front of him but he can "uncover" vital information from 30 year old gov't records that thousands before him missed?

My question to all you birthers is this; Do you honestly believe that this conspiracy is so vast that only a few minor players break the veil? A postman and a temporary, part-time elections wonk aren't exactly in the inner circle.

Assuming that he was born in Kenya (he wasn't) then why have the Kenyan officials not come forward with proof? They have no alliegance to the US to hide it. Why has no one with ACTUAL knowledge and proof come forward?

To date, not one single person has stepped forward and said "I changed the records" or "I altered the documents." The only "proof" being offered is people saying they heard something from someone else. Of course, the original sources are all denying ever saying it, but that means nothing to fanatics.

Even when it reaches the point that whatever wild accusation made is thoroughly and completely debunked, you just either refuse to see that or you move the goalposts again. That's not how evidence and proof and facts work in the real world.

Delta

Daer Mr. Farrar,

My middle son, 26 years old, has a SSN that begins with the digits for TX but we live in MS. Does this mean he was actually born in Kenya? Should I have gotten a passport before he was born? I was concered that this might affect his self-esteem so I checked his passport and it only shows trips to Mexico and Canada on it. Should I be concerned that the forgery was done incorrectly? Can the INS correct this for me? He says he would rather trade the Mexico stamp for Kenya because he really enjoyed his trip to Canada and doesn't want that one to "disappear" if he has a choice. We're pretty sure his selective service card is ok so that's not an issue.

When should we start worrying about the "permanent records" of our two girls? They are still about10-15 years away from being old enough to run for president, but we have high hopes for them. Is this something we need to concern ourselves with right now, or can it wait a while?

The youngest one was suspended from school for one day in the 10th grade for being out of uniform. Should this be addressed with the principal or the records clerk to get it taken off her record? She has a Nicaragua stamp on her passport so perhaps it would be better addressed with the INS? Do they "do" school records?

Another concern we have is about their birth certificates. Every time we've had to go down to the health dept to get one, all they've given us is a copy, never the original, even though we have to pay for it. And it's not very 'long' either, about the size of a regular piece of paper. As this seems to be a real stumbling block for running for president, should we demand the original?

Thank you for all the work you're doing to keep the government honest, and any assistance you can give me on these questions will be greatly appreciated.

signed,
Concerned mother of a future president.

Yeah, the reason I never ran for President is my original birth certificate got lost in a move and the hospital I was born in no longer exists. It became a Catholic school later and the labor unit was turned into the biology lab, so you can imagine what Farrar idiots would be saying about me!

THERE IS NO QUESTION that OBAMA'S MOTHER COMES FROM A LONG LINE OF KANSAS NATIVES. HER ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HOSPITAL RECORDS EXIST.

AN AMERICAN WOMAN CAN GIVE BIRTH ON MARS AND THE CHILD IS STILL AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

NOTHING ELSE IS RELEVANT!!!!!!

And, in what universe is it logical that a radical Muslim plant would give the go order to kill bin Laden, bomb Libya to get rid of the regime responsible for Lockerbie and NOT pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan right away and do drone attacks in Pakistan?

Many of you are either brain-dead or brainwashed! The fact is that the fraud in the White House is not eligible to be President and that is that. Natural born means born of an American mother AND father. Obama's father is a Kenyan and that is the end of the story. We could also talk about his sealed college records, or his social security number that was issued to a man that was born in the 1880's. We could discuss the fact that he has ties to the Communist Party and is Muslim, but that would just be wrong or even worse, it may be racist! I say it is relevant!! Anyone else with half a brain would agree.

It's a damned close race, almost nose to nose at the finish line, but, after several days of handwringing and re-reading these posts over and over, the NUTZOID award is granted to Frugal Gal. The tie breaker was that she so successfully pulled off the act of simultaneously posing as a psychiatrist and carnival clown.

Shadow: Knock it off. I'm not approving any more of your comments that are written just to insult other readers. You were good for a few weeks but last few days you've been at it again.

The reason I didn't approve one of your comments last week was because once again, you falsely accused me of commenting under other names. I don't do it. Period. Every time you say that, it will not get posted, so deal with it.

Had no idea that contemplating possible explanations for conspiracy theorist ranting constituted "nutzoid" analysis, especially when compared to the doinds of said tin-foil hats. Thanks for the insight!

:)

Look, if somebody uses my SSN after I die, whether they run for President or not, I sure hope they will be investigated by some law enforcement agency. I guess Obama is exempt from such investigation. Why in the world would you have to use somebody else's SSN if you had one of your own?

Rebelgal

You are just wrong about the conditions of citizenship. Just plain old wrong.

And, you should mistrust anyone who has told you that one is not an American citizen unless both parents are citizens.

My cousin went to the Sorbonne to study. She married a foreigner. They had their daughter in Spain. Their daughter is an American citizen and became one at birth.

But, I didn't have to have my cousin ( born in Columbus, GA) marry someone from another country or see her daughter's passport American passport to be certain you are totally misinformed.

I passed Civics in high school.