Thursday, November 3, 2011

The Downtown Light: Part II

Mr. Kamikaze sent me this email after reading my post this morning. Enjoy.

"Fish you may post if you wish but I dont think those posting comments understand my point nor did they read ALL my twitter posts that you put up.

No one is "celebrating" thugs nor am I giving them a pass. My response was towards individual white persons being singled out but making blanket indictments of EVERY Black kid that parties downtown. There is no "thug" bar downtown however there are some that frequent and cause problems. Single out those and I have no quarrel. But to make s sweeping indictment is wrong white or black.

Funny thing is we're on the same side because Ive already gone on record saying I feel the locker room should be closed or new owners/management be put in place. There is activity unbecoming in it and it DOES need to go. And Im not the only Black person who thinks so. But I wont group Level 3 in that. Yes those are college kids. Yes there are bad apples but they are not amimals. Single out the bad INDIVIDUALS. Period.

And btw Dreamz does indeed have white patrons on a regular basis. And runs smoothly above board and w/o problems
."

40 comments:

Shadowfax said...

hmmm. I'll take KF's word for it that Kamikazi wrote that to him, 'cause it sure looks like two different people to me. He's one person when writing this nice note to KF, but, displays a 180 degree opposite attitude when posting elsewhere (the posts KF included elsewhere). I wonder why he doesn't write this sensibly on his Twitter account. Well, I really don't......but, anyway. As they used to say on "What's My Line", WILL THE REAL KAMIKAZI PLEASE STAND UP.

Hmmmm said...

My first exposure to Level 3 was on Sunday. My kids were in sunday school and I took a walk down Capitol. There was one section of sidewalk where I noticed alot (20-30) white styrofoam tumblers on the sidewalk in varying states of brokenness. As I got closer, there was puke on the sidewalk in 3 places and half-pint liquor bottles strewn about in the tree planter, curb and sidewalk. Stepping around this crap, I noticed "L-3" or "Level 3" taped onto the entrance walk of a chained up cage style doorway. If this guy won't "lump" the locker room into the same category as the Locker Room (had no trash that I could tell outside, btw), then I question his judgment. Why can't they at least clean up the sidewalk like they do in New Orleans on Bourbon Street? Also, reading the twitter posts, it seems like this guy wants to keep the cover up of the Sky Litter Box alive? How does he justify this, if he wants the Locker Room closed?

Hmmmm said...

Lump Level 3 into the same category of Locker Room, sorry.

Rebekah said...

Can the douche aka Kamikaze please explain why Underground 119 isn't having these problems?? Or...what about Parlor Market? Places like THAT are what we need downtown...not some std cesspool inhabited by a bunch of thugs...and I don't care if they are black or white- a thug is a thug.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Kamikaze wrote a reasonable response.
wdk...you'd find the same trash at frat parties back in the 50s. Indeed, there have been more than a few fashionable parties from the Delta to the coast where some party goers drank too much and " forgot their manners".
Rebekah,lordy girl...Parlor Market? You compare restaurants with bars to bars with entertainment?
Mr. Kamikaze is right...there are troublemakers who can show up anywhere of any race. I blame the establishment owners for not having better security and trained bouncers.

Anonymous said...

12:35. Some blacks just can't admit, or recognize the "culture" thing. This is some of their peoples' culture, just like that Wendy tramp at DJT has her culture.

Birdland, Level 3, Locker Room....these type black joints attract that specific culture. Plain and simple.

Having them near other venues with a "gentler" culture is and is proving to be, a recipe for disaster.

Rebekah said...

Well..perhaps Parlor Market was a dumb comparison. But, my point was that it doesn't cater to the thugs the other ones cater to. We NEED places like that downtown. Underground 119 is fun. Incredible music. Great bar. Once again, thugs don't hang out there. Perhaps because of the cover and the cost of drinks/food, but thugs don't hang out there. If downtown is to be built up, we need to have restaurants/bars that refuse to cater to thugs...let them find somewhere else to hang out. That was my point.

Anonymous said...

12:35 you made a great point. So did 4:40.

Anonymous said...

What is this "Kamikaze" shit. Isn't he like 40 or something?

Curt Crowley said...

That was a reasonable response. I'm not quite as hard on Kamikaze as some. A lot of his columns make sense, and it's entertaining watching him take it to the LaddFraud's butt on the jfp site.

The problem with those tweets is that he accused us of trying to keep all black businesses out of downtown. That's BS. If he would read in the comments, he would see that we said nice things about Dreamz and Freelons, both of which are black-owned businesses, and both of which have owners that tend to business. Quite frankly, I wish we had 10 more people like Mr. Freelon to open businesses downtown.

We want *responsible* businesses. Race is irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

KaziKazi made the same sweeping generalization he accuses DJT of making. Asking everyone to be sure and read all his tweets doesn't change his words from broad to specific.

What he doesn't mention is what he is doing as a downtown businessman to bring scrutiny to the situation at the Locker Room.

Actions speak louder than words and we already know that KaziKazi has the words part down pat.

Anonymous said...

Look up hot air on Wikipedia and you will find his picture.

Anonymous said...

CURT ROCKS.

Micah said...

Kamikaze the guy who is now producing the Mississippi Roads on Mississippi Public Broadcasting?

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but I just cannot assign credibility to nor can I take seriously a middle-aged guy who insists on going by some juvenile hip hop handle like Kamikaze. I'm sure he fancies himself all dope and funkyfresh, and I imagine his stylin' name commands buckets of respect amongst the privileged children of Fondren, but in the real world where the grownups are, he looks like a pitiful guy still dreaming of being a millionaire rapper.

Hey Brad, time to dump the stupid moniker and grow up.

KaptKangaroo said...

I'm a fan of Kaze. Funny thing is, I'm kinda' happy to see his words here. It releases me of the requirement to have to trudge through drivel to find his writings.

Anonymous said...

MC Edamame here, representin'!
Do no hate the playa, yo, or his game. Bein' a fly mc of fiffy, I represent just like my boyz Kamikaze and Kapt Kangaroo, my old, bald, fatty fly boyz do, word. And don't mess with Curtis and the Sporky bunch, that boy packs some heat and will make a cutlery carryin hater recognize, yo.

shadowfax said...

Are we witnessing turf wars or what, yo?

Anonymous said...

well now..looks like dem chickens have come home to roost..I bet you will see Ben Allen "getting down" with the thugs every saturday night!

Anonymous said...

Why are the racial apologists out in force screaming it isn't about race?? Of course it is about race, every other bar downtown, from Underground 119 and F Jones Corner to the bar at Parlor Market, Fire, Martin's and Hal & Mal's has a racially mixed clientele. The Skybox and Level 3 douchfest are ALL BLACK, save the dirty white boy. Why can't progressive black quasi-rapper fags like Kaze admit that when a bunch of blacks all get together in a thuggy club drinking Hennessy and Kool-aid, they act like a collective bunch of hooligans. Seriously, WTF? I will admit that when I was in my all white fraternity we acted like assholes and vandalized shit, it is fairly normal. The point however is that the downtown area, which is trying sooooo hard to come back and become something nice doesn't need a black thug club, and black leaders, instead of throwing race cards and acting indigent, should be the very ones speaking out against such Jackassery.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it ironic that 99% of stabbings, fatal shooting, kids getting hit my stray bullets, and other awful crimes happen in all black inner city neighborhoods. It speaks volumes as to the cultural norms that happen in poor-urban all black society. Kaze needs to drop his rapper ID and be a force of change in this demographic. Instead of tweeting about how outraged and progressive he is because he and DonnerK argue in a blog forum, he needs to be out teaching inner city black youth to solve disagreements without pulling out a box cutters or 9mm pistols.

Shadowfax said...

Is it just my imagination or are there to Camel-Kazies? In his earlier comments (published here as copied from his tweets), he played the role of a misunderstood black dood, all puffed up over profiling by the white power-structure and donning a silver cape of protection for the downtrodden in the hood.

However, in this most recent note to KF, he takes on a much more suave, ameliorating, 'work with me here' personna.

Will the real Kami please stand up.

Anonymous said...

9:19 - Different audience, different persona perhaps?

Anonymous said...

Can I get a refund of the 10 seconds it took me to read the droppings left by 1153?

Unknown said...

So its easy to be 10ft tall behind these keyboards and be all anonymous. So I say let's take it to the next level. A meeting of the minds and FACE to FACE conversation. This makes everything a lot more simple and takes away the ability to call names. Because if you will not say it to a person to his physical face. Why say it at all. Let's talk. Who's brave enough. Mature people only. Both BLACk and WHITE.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and represent us Eddie since you've got it figured out. We'll wait for your report.

Unknown said...

Well this isn't a 1 man circus. There is nothing that I can get accomplished alone. So unless the anonymous gang is willing to come to the table, I think those of us with actual names are most definitely confident and secure enough to step to the table. Come on people. Let's link up and fight,I mean talk lol.

Anonymous said...

I'd go but I'm 10 ft. tall and can't fit thru the door.

The Rev. Dr. Ca$hmunni Jamillionaire Puffalishus Monsta Krooshal Raptacularity Jr, III, Esq. said...

Does the phrase, "those of us with actual names" include a certain overgrown adolescent who insists on being called "Kamikaze"? Is that the "actual name" on his birth certificate?

I'll talk, but only if you call me by my stage name (see above), because it so def and make people think I'm rich.

Unknown said...

Well Rev, unlike you, whatever you chose to want to be called. I will call you that. And it makes you no less of a human being to me. Its obvious you are more hung up on nicknames and what people prefer to call someone. If that is the case the so be it. But NO, for that matter I was not talking about Brad "Kamikaze" Frankin. So if your phunky fresh can dig being called REV for short, then we can call a meeting of the minds and I will make sure your tag says REV.-Phunky Phresh Def soul brotha numba 1.
#win

Causin' Melodrama said...

We don't need no stinkin' meeting. You play with your bonafides and we'll play with ours. Now run along cause KaziKazi is waiting for your status tweet so y'all can yuck it up together.

Unknown said...

LOL awwww how cute. He's irritated. Well again. The invite was for like minded individuals. Its obvious your not here to solve an issue or debate the topic properly. You'd much rather be BIG behind the keyboard. On to the next. Ladies and gents, here is your example of .......nothing. Any real people on here who wanna have a genuine conversation about whats going on in our city instead of throwing eggs. I am all for it. Typing only creates a divide. I don't want a line in the sand. I wanna see REAL people with honest opinions. Notice I sad honest, not EMOTIONAL.

KaptKangaroo said...

Eddie,

Your attempt to draw traffic from the site is comical.

Especially when you are so "big" behind the keyboard. Spending there too long will lead to carpal tunnel syndrome. But, you already know that.

Your conversation (I've read your blog) is not worthy of anything other than a mom reading a regurgitation of well-written original reporting in a mom-impressed kinda' way. I'm not criticizing. We all need to feel important, I get that, it's just, you are new here and you really don't have any, what do they call it, hmmm. I know.

"cred".

KaptKangaroo said...

Shadow,

My bet is on great guy, multiple constituencies. Too bad some of those constituencies are not real connections. Compartmentalization is a very difficult personality to manage.

KaptKangaroo said...

Funny, I asked someone what color KaptKangaroo is. The reply...."purple."

Anonymous said...

I get that, it's just, you are new here and you really don't have any, what do they call it, hmmm. I know.

"cred".


No. The word regarding what Eddie is missing is clue.

Unknown said...

Well I believe the last thing I would do is attemtp to draw traffic. That would require repeated posts of "Hey everyone go to my blog and read" comments. But since there's not an onslaught of those, that comment is remains pointless. I mean look gents. All I was attempting was to organzie a sit down with grown people talking about social issues in our city. But apparently I don't have enough cred on your books to do so lol. That was a funny one. Cred. Ha. I don't need to feel important. I already am. Anyway. "Kanga" thanks fo checking our the blog. I appreciate the criticism. I will continue to blog for the mothers who like to read what clueless entries. Wow. That's unexpexcted. Anyway. You dudes and dudets have an awesome Saturday. Keep it classy.

Anonymous said...

All I was attempting was to organzie a sit down with grown people talking about social issues in our city.

Why? It has been talked to death.

Shadowfax said...

Where does one find instructions on how to make your post appear in italics or how to 'blue light' your print to form a link? Sorry for the ignorance (hold the comments on that).

KaptKangaroo said...

Shadow,

Google is your friend.

You will want to look up html coding:
html a href
html italics

You can use some HTML tags, not all in blogger, again Google is your friend.


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