Jackson Jambalaya

Was that her husband/escort running after the car? It's a shame he wasn't armed.

Husband.

I hope we're not going to get to the point where restaurants and other businesses must provide security to avoid legal liability for criminal acts committed by others.

I hope not either and I don't advocate such liability. However, I see nothing wrong with pointing it out either.

Looks like they might have a shot at pulling up the plate. Glad they have security cameras and know the make.

Bert said " A" and " The" purse snatcher so a car full of people or just one? Do we know?

Don't know why the color of the car is in doubt.

It was not exaggerated and I don't care what Bert Case says, it was a thousand feet. One of the family members measured it and was quite clear and adamant about the length.

How is the victim?

And wonder what her PERCEPTION is of crime in Jackson? And especially in the Fondren area?

Exactly. Some of the comments last week were disgusting and were clearly out to blame the victim. We can figure out which crowd was responsible for that one, can't we?

Do you mean the Johnson Administration or DonnerK's peaceful-lovey-huggy-KLAN?

I am utterly shocked that anyone would blame the victim. Shocked.

For some reason this comment at 11:13 AM is not appearing:


No one doubted the story 9:31 and I think you meant " confirmed" except the email didn't give important details like the make or color of the car and slightly exaggerated minor details like how far the poor victim was dragged and omitted that the restaurant has security cameras that made a frightening event more frightening.
That is a common, understandable problem when well intentioned emails go out based on what the writer has been told. anonymous

December 21, 2010 11:45 AM

Kingfish, how would security cameras make getting dragged by a car while getting mugged less frightening?

My point, what the Hell difference does that make to the victim of any violent crime?

Wow. That is really scary. She's very lucky her injuries were minor. I'm sure the emotional scars will take a long time to heal. The sad thing is the City will probably do nothing to these thugs.

Bert (or JPD) must have measured the 500 feet just in the parking lot and did not consider that the car left the parking lot and headed north on State Street. Also, as far as the husband not being armed,an FBI agent has reviewed this and has the opinion that if the husband had fired a shot his wife would probably have been killed by these thugs. Unless you walk around in the the parking lots with guns drawn you can't react quickly enough to stop this kind of stuff. Of course, it just might come to that.

Unless you are James Bond, there is no way a gun would have helped this situation. This video makes me so angry. There is no respect for human life anymore. These waste of skin thugs would have easily killed her and wouldn't have given it a second thought about it...they could have easily ran her over and would have kept going-without guilt.
I know we need these videos to try and profile these bastards, but I wish I hadn't have seen it...She will never forget this and neither will her husband. It doesn't matter if it was 5 feet, 500, or 1,000....the details just glorify the incident. The fact is that it happened and nothing has been done about it. The thugs probably watched this last night on their stolen tv and laughed about it while passing around a joint.
Makes.me.sick

She is lucky to be alive.

It is a shame that WLBT even uses the word 'purse snatcher'

How about violent assault.

There is never a time to NOT be armed. Never. There are certainly times to not use your firearm, though.

could this be the same silver Saturn (assuming it was silver and not gold)?

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=13717972

If only we had that damn arena built all of these problems would vanish into thin air.

and don't forget, the victims heard the two attackers LAUGHING during the dragging...

Here's another one for the "crime happens everywhere" crowd. Cary Hudson, probably the best musician in the state, was to play 119 Underground Saturday night.

As he waited outside a friend's house in (wait for it) BELLHAVEN, a black male snuck up on him, put a pistol to his head, and relieved him of his wallet and phone.

Now come on, you apologist p*ssies. Tell me how this could have easily happened in Flowood and Madison.

Tell me how much you love the "character" of the houses in your ghetto.

You people deserve whatever you get. Fools.

Johnson Administration had shown great courage and leadership regarding this unfortunate, sick event.

'great courage and leadership' by trying to keep this out of the press? by sending multiple units to i55 corridor to write tickets to commuters in rush hours? or hiring out of state consultants to do a crime study for $250k?

exactly ... GREAT comment above "great courage" one

I wish that y'all would quit perceiving crime during Johnson's second reign.

RAAAAACISTS.

never ever underestimate the power of denial

Thank the Lord that this Fondren crime victim was not killed !

I challenge Donner K, "Todd", "Ward", Ronnie Mott "Kaz" , "Adam", or all of the rest of the 2011 intern class @ Jackson's Smart Alternative to even mention such animalistic behavior in their next issue.

Yeah, put 9 mm to a home owner's head ... ( while he sits on a porch)... in peaceful "Belhhaven/Fondren" ...only to jack a damn cell phone.

I moving back into Crackson tomorrow

Is anyone concerned about the Federal investment as a solution to the Downtown problem? I wonder why the Bugle is not sounding the alarm...IOW why are they not investing in Fondren?

jacksons smart alternative.....you mean the JFP (Jackson Far-left Proletariet). no mention of any of this so far that I can see on that site.

While republican conservatives give the rich tax breaks...jackson's unfortunate black youth have to resort to purse snatching to survive, not aware they dragged young woman along after trying to get some money to meet their needs. how's that..?

God bless this poor woman and her husband. She is lucky. I understand that she will be OK?

I'm not going to over-criticize my point here, buuuut....

The local media held off on reporting a report a brazen pair? single individual? who ever? who was willing to drag a person across a parking lot and not give a damn about human life during the most trafficked time (i.e. holidays) because WHY?

It appears to me that the local media is no better than the protectors of the community rag.

When are we going to realize, lets clean up Jackson by knowing the problems instead of continuing to bury our heads in the sand. I would rather post police in high traffic areas that create economy than deny the need. If you want to argue, fine, proceed at your own risk after dark.

GEEZ... sorry if it feels somewhat less frightening to know that with security cameras, the a**holes might be caught. Sorry if one thug seems better than a carload.

Nobody is blaming the victim. Nobody is saying this wasn't bad.
But, I'm not about to let some illiterate thugs run me out and STILL the only time a crime has been committed where I was the victim was by white guys in Pearl who stole my cell phone and white guys in Madison who robbed my outdoor storage room.

KF, you printed the SAME email I got personally but mine wasn't from a " family member". I guess mine was copied and pasted.
But, I got it...all violent criminals are Black and all white folks are good. Just didn't know about the white murderers family trees.

I confirmed the email. People did come on this site blaming the victim. Said some pretty awful things that were a smear on the victim, in effect, blaming the victim. was pretty outrageous and I zapped the comments.

It would FEEL less frightening if those security cameras shot lasers.

Of course, they would be racists, too.

Wonder why it took so long to get that on tv? I hope they catch them as soon as possible, that could have been more tragic than it was. Hope the husband got the tag number as he was chasing the car. Noticed they are warning people not to leave their cars warming up and not being in them, that people are stealing them.

This was a horrible criminal act.
I heard in the last couple of months about a pretty scary incident at a theatre in Madison, but it didn't get reported or emailed...just whispered about. Nothing was in KFs crime stats about it. I looked.
How one assumes crime isn't a concern to " liberals" ( especially since most crime is black on black and I believe it was that awful Clinton who pumped up police depts and crime stats went down) or Harvey Johnson's fault (do mayors want to fail?) or how that crime happens makes everyone who lives in Jackson a fool, seems a bit of an hysterical overreaction to me. Nor can I see how abandoning Jackson is somehow going to accomplish something good for Mississippi.
No one was suggesting everyone move from Rankin and pull their children out of school after the school massacre several years ago.
Even the affluent white community has had some pretty awful criminals of late posted about on this very site...one in rural DeSoto.
I could argue that everyone should move out of parts of Madison and Rankin because some areas of both are tornado alleys. But, that's a risk you get to assume. Life is full of trade offs.
Everybody just calm down.

The reason everyone says that crime is not a concern of liberals is because liberals do not want to punish criminals. Ever wonder why crime is the most rampant in the liberal areas of the country? It could be because the first order of liberal crime fighting is to disarm the law-abiding citizenry.

To attribute the decrease in crime while Bill Clinton was president, to something that Clinton actually did, is disingenuous at best. Funny, most crime is considered state crime. Plus, wonder why the criminal behavior in the Executive Branch EXPLODED under Clinton? What was it, over one hundred twenty indicted officials in the Clinton Administration?

W. Bush cleared that crap up, too. What is happening now?

Everybody just calm down.

Tell you what. Feel free to express your own opinion and leave others alone to express theirs as they see fit.

Paul,

Good to see you're not scared to whip out the old broad brush.

"Ever wonder why crime is the most rampant in the liberal areas of the country?"

Whoa. I see what you did there. You uttered a fallacy and asserted it as fact, even though it has no basis in fact at all. Just your good ol' opinion from out there in Pearl.

I live in a fairly "liberal" area of the country, Denver, Colorado, and crime is most certainly not "rampant" here. Hell, Denver was named as the number 6 city in the country on Yahoo the other day based on livability, job availability, laissez faire lifestyle, etc. You might be scared of it, though. My neighbor is black. He's from *gasp* ERITREA! That's in Africa! To top it off, we have MEXICANS here! Lots of them! Holy shit!

Of course, I also see what else you're doing there. You're transposing the word "liberal" with "black", so that you can include the metro areas of Atlanta, D.C., Baltimore, etc., and make your point true.

Anyway, enjoy living in the outskirts of a metro area that you don't have the pride to call home. I bet that adds a little bit of a wrinkle to the Southern inferiority complex.

Andrew Newcomb

Thanks for straightening me out, Andrew. Yes, Donner K is BLACK, or at least she thinks she is.

By the way, I live in Lexington, KY, the most liberal city in Kentucky, very, very white, and the highest crime rate in the entire state, too.

But, just like all "Progressives," you think that it is because of the black folks.

Good to know your location. Now, again, another fallacy in your carefully crafted sentence that shifts the subject from your original assertion.

I will accept as fact that Lexington, Kentucky is the crime capital of that state.

But, that doesn't have anything to do with your original bullshit statement that crime is the most rampant in the liberal areas of the country. Maybe your white Kentucky liberal criminals are unique.

Anyhow, I enjoy your mental gymnastics. Anyone with any mental honesty can see that you weren't talking about Lexington when you made your original assertion. But, it sure does increase your bona fides that you live in a white, liberal crime hellhole!

As for you labeling me a "Progressive", I don't really know what that means. It's interesting that you can glean so much from my single blog post.

Andrew Newcomb

Andrew,

Have you ever been robbed? At gun point? Just wondering.

If you have, I guarandamnteeyou that the person on the other end of the gun does not matter one bit. Don't care the color, race, religion, creed, location in Colorado (oh BTW, been to parts of Denver that are VERY scary). All that matters is some people don't really give a hoot about the social contract.

Your attempt to take Paul's commentary and derive a broader conversation about race is utter crap.

Good day to you and hope it snows on Christmas, because, I like when things go well for folks who are good people; not robbing, stealing, terrorizing, purse snatching, home invading, car jacking...losers.

KK,

Thanks for the insincere well-wishes. Also glad you've been to parts of Denver that are scary.

I didn't "attempt to take Paul's commentary and derive a broader conversation about race". I quoted him directly making a false inference. His false inference directly involved the old tried and true method of transposing the word "liberals" with a race other than lily white, so that the commentary doesn't look as nakedly bigoted. It happens in Mississippi a lot. On this blog plenty. See, "thugs", and the use thereof.

As for whether I've been robbed at gun point, no. With a knife, yes. It's irrelevant to the conversation. You might go back and read his post. It wasn't about the particular Fondren robbery, it was commentary about why 'Merica is soft on crime 'cause of them commie liberals (of which I could not even moderately be accused of being in any place other than Mississippi).

But, just to help you foam at the mouth a bit, my robbery experience was by a black person! And it was in Jackson! So it must be true that it's a hellhole! You win! Lock your doors and turn on your alarm tonight. Madison's a short drive up I-55 from that cesspool.

Andrew Newcomb

If I put A + B together, I surmise you are a plaintiff's attorney.

Good luck.

Also, get me some of that stuff you are smokin'....

Paul never made your connection of race and liberal as you presented, its in your head my friend - get a grip. You are new to these parts of the internets and should, good sir, take notice of your blatant generalizations of parts you don't know too well.

My money is on Mitchell.

Note to all liberals. You have freedoms to speak your mind here that conservatives do not have in Donner K's big white flabby ass sandbox. Enjoy.

For some reason this Andrew Newcomb seems familiar, KK. I would say personal injury or civil rights. Probably an Ole Miss graduate that has the white guilt coursing through his veins not unlike Tim Wise or DonnerK.

But, that is just from reading his hatred of logic.

Andrew has been commenting here for nearly a couple of years now. He is NOT an Ole Miss grad.

Education

* University of Mississippi School of Law, Oxford, Mississippi
o J.D. - 2003

Representative Cases

* Cutter v. RailAmerica, Inc., 2008 WL 163016

Paul, you cannot substantiate your statement that crime is more rampant in " liberal" areas. And,you certainly can't back up that crime is worse where gun laws are strict. THE factor in crime is poverty.
Since guns laws are practically non-existent in MS and Jackson is in MS, you wouldn't think Jackson would have a crime problem at all.
Doesn't matter if you have a concealed weapon if the criminal has the drop on you. Doesn't matter if you have a gun in your house if you can't get to it in time . If the guns are stolen , however,when your car is broken into or your purse snatched or you house robbed, who is armed then?
Me, I watched enough westerns to know the Wild West calmed down when people couldn't bring their guns to town.
11:17 you're right. Stay anxious and angry and emotional if you want. Say " hi" to your doctor for me and keep that life insurance paid up.

Anon 8:25. Compare the crime stats in DC v. Alexandria. Or Brandon (or Madison) and Jackson. It is simple to people that do not poke their heads in the sand.

Yes, there are reams and reams of documentation that gun control equals more crime. Check Australia, over 600% increase in violent crime, The UK is almost as bad.

Do not be stupid.

paul mitchell is correct. It's not the most rigorous or current study available, but Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" is always a good place to start.

8:25:

"Since guns laws are practically non-existent in MS and Jackson is in MS, you wouldn't think Jackson would have a crime problem at all."

If we're going to engage in such overly-simplified logic, then you've got to explain why D.C. has such high rates of gun crime despite their restrictive gun laws.

"Doesn't matter if you have a concealed weapon if the criminal has the drop on you. Doesn't matter if you have a gun in your house if you can't get to it in time . If the guns are stolen , however,when your car is broken into or your purse snatched or you house robbed, who is armed then?"

Now you're just telling stories that fit your worldview. The numerous true stories of lives saved by law-abiding and responsible gun owners demonstrate the possibility of outcomes that don't fit into your purposefully-pessimistic view.

Me, I watched enough westerns to know the Wild West calmed down when people couldn't bring their guns to town.

Your experience is based on watching Hollywood westerns? ROFLMAO

Doesn't matter if you have a concealed weapon if the criminal has the drop on you.

Did you draw this conclusion from watching the movies also?

Well, I have been exposed. I am a crafty old Plaintiff's lawyer/civil rights/bad faith insurance attorney, and I did graduate from Ole Miss Law. Proud of both of those things.

My c.v. is available on my website, where I surmise you got that information, Paul.

"Admitting" to being a Plaintiff's lawyer is another thing you can say without having to defend it when you don't live in Mississippi. It's nice.

And, Paul, no white guilt here. It's called a conscience. Goes back in our family a ways. My great-grandfather, the Governer of the great state twice by appointment, was an early proponent of civil rights. Defeated by Gov. Bilbo, who ran partly on a platform that my gg was a "n***** lover", because he pardoned a black man during his appointment.

But enough of my info. KK, you hijacked the conversation and haven't introduced anything substantive into the discussion other than to say that my assertion that Paul was subbing "liberal" for "minority" or "black" was crazy, and that I was delusional for assuming so.

Pardon me for disagreeing, but I think that anyone who, again, is intellectually honest on this topic has a friend, family member or other acquaintance (maybe even themselves!) that has used "thug" to make a loose substitute for "black", or any other undesirable that is not one of their crowd. In Mississippi, since it is not appropriate to say "blacks are the cause of crime", people now say "thugs are the cause of crime". Or, because they can't believe that a white person might be a liberal democrat, they say "liberals are the cause of crime".

It's okay for you to continue to deny it. When I'm at hunting camp, I hear it plenty. You do too, it just doesn't fit your narrative for this argument so you cast it aside.

And, to get in one of your normal "give me some of what your smokin'" cuts. Bravo.

As for "DonnerK", never met her, read the rag for a while, and it was more ridiculous on the Two Lakes thing than credible, so I stopped. I doubt we have much in common in terms of our views on much at all. I don't know if she has any white guilt. I would say she identifies with AA's more than you do.

I don't have much in common with her beyond the fact that I have a (D) in my political affiliation.

Well, I have been exposed. I am a crafty old Plaintiff's lawyer/civil rights/bad faith insurance attorney, and I did graduate from Ole Miss Law. Proud of both of those things.

My c.v. is available on my website, where I surmise you got that information, Paul.

"Admitting" to being a Plaintiff's lawyer is another thing you can say without having to defend it when you don't live in Mississippi. It's nice.

And, Paul, no white guilt here. It's called a conscience. Goes back in our family a ways. My great-grandfather, the Governer of the great state twice by appointment, was an early proponent of civil rights. Defeated by Gov. Bilbo, who ran partly on a platform that my gg was a "n***** lover", because he pardoned a black man during his appointment.

But enough of my info. KK, you hijacked the conversation and haven't introduced anything substantive into the discussion other than to say that my assertion that Paul was subbing "liberal" for "minority" or "black" was crazy, and that I was delusional for assuming so.

Pardon me for disagreeing, but I think that anyone who, again, is intellectually honest on this topic has a friend, family member or other acquaintance (maybe even themselves!) that has used "thug" to make a loose substitute for "black", or any other undesirable that is not one of their crowd. In Mississippi, since it is not appropriate to say "blacks are the cause of crime", people now say "thugs are the cause of crime". Or, because they can't believe that a white person might be a liberal democrat, they say "liberals are the cause of crime".

It's okay for you to continue to deny it. When I'm at hunting camp, I hear it plenty. You do too, it just doesn't fit your narrative for this argument so you cast it aside.

And, to get in one of your normal "give me some of what your smokin'" cuts. Bravo.

As for "DonnerK", never met her, read the rag for a while, and it was more ridiculous on the Two Lakes thing than credible, so I stopped. I doubt we have much in common in terms of our views on much at all. I don't know if she has any white guilt. I would say she identifies with AA's more than you do.

I don't have much in common with her beyond the fact that I have a (D) in my political affiliation.

Pardon the double post, and the misspelling of "governor".

//thereifixedit

Andrew, it was e-mailed to me, I guessed at it before I received the e-mail. Still, I have no clue why people that attach the D to their names have such a thing about debating race. I moved past that point when I was old enough to have any cognitive ability. For sure my opinions on race were formed before most because my grandfather is Cherokee. Yes, I agree that there are some that equate "thug" with black, but I equate "criminal" with Democrat. Growing up Catholic and of mixed race in Mississippi kinda instilled that in me.

By the way, I am not such much a Republican as I am anti-Democrat. For some reason, everything that I see as wrong, has always been promoted by Democrats. We can go down the entire list of things that are wrong these days, and I can always point to the Democrat Party as being the cause simply because it is true. Something about that whole "It is okay to own a man" ideology that Democrats love that sets me off. Plus, the owning of a man is not even restricted to skin color with Democrats either. For some reason, there is a half-black Democrat President and even HE follows that ideology that it is okay to get rich on the fruits of another man's labor.

Good lord. Certainly you acknowledge that those "Democrats" you speak of aren't the Democratic Party of today.

You're again being intellectually dishonest by suggesting that the Southern Democrats who were born out the civil war and Reconstruction and later devised the "Southern Strategy" are the same party of Democrats today.

But it doesn't appear that you're open to much actual discussion. You've already played the "plaintiff's lawyer" card, and admitted that you dismiss out of hand the entire ideology of a political group, while ignoring that such group is not a static body and might have differing views within its own constituency.

I will bow out now.

//rantyrant

AMN

Andrew, the Democrat Party is exactly the same as it has always been. Revisionists think that it is different, but they have a vested interest in trying to make it seem different to people that do not keep informed.

The Democrats born out of the Civil War? Dude, the Democrats are the Democrats. If you do not know your party, that doesn't reflect on me. If you need a refresher, Google Dickie Scruggs or Bobby DeLaughter.

And no, I am not open to discussion about who Democrats are. To quote Joe Biden, "A taxi doesn't change its spots." If you want to see who the Democrats are, all you have to do is open your eyes.

Granted, Republicans are having an identity crisis right now at the hands of the Tea Parties, but at least they are not the party of racism and crime.

But it doesn't appear that you're open to much actual discussion.

You aren't interested in any discussion Newcomb. Your mind is as made up about your righteous correctness as anyone else. It is disingenuous to pretend otherwise.

You fit the definition of a rope sander perfectly.

I am interested in discussion. I particularly like argument that is underpinned with facts. I didn't see any of that, simply a false assertion, and objected to that.

I am also not righteously correct. I don't espouse any particular view and ride it down like the Titanic. I have had changes of philosophy on guns, public finance, the death penalty, and some other major topics as I've gotten older, and they've gone in very different ideological directions.

So, I would disagree with your statement.

If have an example of me espousing a particular viewpoint in the face of logic and evidence to the contrary, I would be glad to hear about it.

AMN

Thank you for the many thoughts and prayers from friends and stragners alike. We are so fortnuate that I was not killed during this attack. Thank you for the person who clarified that it was NOT 500 feet of dragging--it was approx. 365 yards. I would like to make one other clarification: I did NOT have the purse strap accross my chest. It was on my shoulder. Thank you all for your support.

I am glad to see your comment. I pray that you are doing well. Best wishes.

Many prayers for this lady and her husband. This makes me sick. Regardless of the details, this family deserves our prayers and support.

Any arrests made in this latest Fondren crime? Did the Bugle do a hard-hitting investigative piece on this crime?

Do I hear crickets chirping?

I think this column sums up their attitude quite nicely.

Kingfish, why is there not one word of the success of the RID program that was implemented with the mandatory sentencing? That recidivism rate is minuscule, too.

If anyone wants my opinion on mandatory sentencing, that bad idea is what happens when you let government attempt to solve problems.

The JFP is not only home to hideously stupid people, but those stupid people are dangerous people as well.

Well, dangerous to law abiding citizens, anyway.