Jackson Jambalaya

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The EV changeover is coming and there is absolutely nothing the luddites can do to stop it. $10 a gallon gasoline will be the new normal soon. Car manufacturers are simply going to stop making ICE cars altogether in 5 years. MDOT is just doing what they are supposed to do to get Mississippi ready for the future.

To much…to soon. And it will fail like everything else.

@9:29
Yup and the new gun control will be zero primers available for reloading and $5 per round ammo.

Why is the government providing this infrastructure with our tax dollars? Shouldn't it be the supplier(s) of the electrons? There's already a model for this with fuel refiners and filling stations. Hey Bennie -- are you holding stock in ChargePoint, Rivian, or SunPower...or, all three?

The average Mississippian cannot afford an electic vehicle-

@9:54
Do you really believe that the government didn't subsidize the relocation and building the infrastructure along the interstate highways? Also, oil companies get about a trillion dollars in tax breaks.

I love my ICE cars. But barely anyone bats an eye when elections are stolen and 2A rights are taken. Do you really think the fat, stupid Sally Soccer Moms and Joe Six Packs are going to resist? Nope. They are just going to buy an EV Tahoe and EV F150.

@9:57
The average Mississippian can’t afford a lot of things but they still buy them on credit. The $10+ a gallon gasoline will be the motivation.

@10:04

They will put $10 gas in their $3000 vehicle because they have no other option.

Solyndra comes to mind-

@10:09
Perhaps $10 a gallon gasoline and $5 a round 9mm will cut down on the drive by shootings in Jackson. Or perhaps it will just translate into more inflation for the price of drugs bought by suburban teenagers from Madison-Rankin.

As long as rural Mississippi has electricity, I don’t see the issue. You charge these thing at home while you sleep. Not sure why everyone thinks they need all these public charging stations.

Fed-momma offering her tits to the begging stage-puppies.

June 14, 2022 at 10:01 AM -- Unless the government bought the gas pumps, it's not the same thing.

Let me get this straight, there is concern that the present electric grid will suffer blackouts this summer, is this correct?

The geniuses are planning for and encouraging the entire population of present car owners to buy electric vehicles, with one poster above saying, $10.00 per gallon gas prices would be the motivator, is this, also, correct?

If, the electric grid is struggling to handle the demand for electricity now, how will it supply all the new EVs that will be hooking up in the near future?

I'm just an air conditioning loving Luddite from Mississippi, and if it comes to either charging my car, or having air conditioning paying $10.00 per gallon for gasoline, I will be having air conditioning. This is Mississippi, and we have real summers.

Mississippi has relied on "communism" for a long time. Roughly 80% of our funding for road and bridges comes from the federal government.

What a load!

No plan fails with first contact. Just wait for that first contact and see the damage done.

I have %80, who will make it %100, who will give me a %100, now?

Somebody needs to take DOT Secretary Mayor Pete and Brandon to any asphalt highway and point downwards. Then they need to tour an asphalt plant to see what goes into making asphalt paving. They'd probably leave thinking we've got plenty of sand so what's the problem?

And as far as the end of the internal combustion engine, you'll have to pry the quart of Valvoline from my cold dead hand.

Travel will take a big hit. Anyone ever thought how long an electric car will have to set to recharge the batteries? What are you going to do while the car is charging? Get an electric car but do not plan on doing any traveling. You will need to stay within walking distance of your home.

How can I bid on providing the gasoline operated chargers which produce the clean energy.

I just went through the survey and recommend all others to do so as well.

EV batteries and charging stations are not "net zero carbon" investments, since they cost more carbon than they actually save. It takes a lot of materials and labor to construct charging stations and batteries. The same goes for windmills and solar panels for that matter.

@11:49, a AAA magazine Mrs Anonymous gets here had an article regarding this. The author said each charge was 45 minutes, which was not a full charge. Said he timed stops of those refueling with gas while he waited on his charge and the average stop was 7 minutes. Overall, he wrote, his EV trip was (I think the figure was) 25 percent longer than his usual ICE trip.

Was this all true? I really can’t say. Your mileage may vary.

@ 10:25 - "As long as rural Mississippi has electricity, I don’t see the issue. You charge these thing at home while you sleep. Not sure why everyone thinks they need all these public charging stations."

Because you don't wanna stop and sleep every time they run down. With a gas/diesel vehicle you just fill back up in 5 mins and keep going.


And to MDOT: Just fix the roads and forget about EVs.

For someone much younger than myself, the recycling, or rebuilding, of the batteries for all these new EVs sounds like a solid future possibility. Someone needs to get on that opportunity.

man, why all of the hate on electric vehicles. Imagine how nice it will be completing removing our dependence on Russia, OPEC and Venezuela. This is a good thing.

and for those that do not understand charging and times, etc: 99% of the time, you charge at your house and you wake up to a full "tank". When you travel long distances, yes, you will need to plan and yes, it will take you longer than usual, but its almost negligible. I'm driving to Omaha this weekend and the 900 mile trip will take me an hour longer....but it'll save me around $300 round trip in gas.

Plus, my electricity doesn't stay on long enough to charge anything up. Thanks, Entergy.

@1:16 - people are scared of change and there’s a lot of political power in oil. That pressure feeds all the bs stories about electric cars onto the commenters’ Facebook feeds and they repeat it to their like minded friends before verifying any of the crap they spread. Once their outlandish claim is refuted, they will move onto another that is just as foolish. Rinse and repeat.

What happens if the power goes out? How will you charge an electric car?

how does the pump work at the gas station if the power is out?

When you travel long distances, yes, you will need to plan and yes, it will take you longer than usual, but its almost negligible.

Almost negligible? Total unadulterated bullshit.

There was an excellent article in the WSJ last week about a lady taking a trip from New Orleans to Chicago and back in an EV. It was a nightmare. Her comment was that she spent more time charging her car than sleeping! A trip in an EV is a nightmare. Driving around town is tolerable.

"The EV changeover is coming"

There is no changeover coming. The electrical generation capability doesn't exist. And the people pushing electric cars are the same ones who want to shut down all fossil fuel power plants. They want to reduce the amount of power available, not increase it.

What most people don't understand yet, is that there is no intention of allowing people the freedom to travel that they now enjoy with gasoline. People like Biden, who has bragged about shutting down fossil fuels, intend to end all of that. Only the very rich will have personal transportation. Everyone else will have public transport or nothing. The idea of electric cars replacing ICE is just a trick to get you to give up what you've got. But you'll get nothing in return.

Meh, it’ll fail much like everything else the government does. They’ll still need oil and coal in the end and big oil will still be stackin dollerz. The last us government shit show I worked on would eat 300,000 gallons of diesel every month on a good day and they ain’t changing that to electric. The only people who believe this won’t turn into a complete disaster are the only ones watching the Jan. 6th dog and pony show on tv.

If I drive from Jackson to Dallas (just over 400 miles) in a gas operated auto, it takes @ six hours with one stop for gas. Total time equals 6 hours.
If I were to make that same trip in a standard Tesla Model 3, I could go 272 miles or about 4 hours before having to recharge. Recharging at a Level 2 AC charging station (most common type 3rd party charging station available) will take me 8-12 hours to get a full charge, then I have to drive the remaining 128+ miles or 2 more hours. Total time equals 14 hours at best.
(If I fly to Dallas on a non-stop ticket, I'm on American and my flight to DFW gets delayed and delayed and delayed and then cancelled, and I get to fly to DFW the following day via Charlotte. Total time equals 24 hours at best)

@5:04 - why wouldn’t you stop at one of the many Tesla superchargers on the way to Dallas and charge in 45 minutes. If I drove to Dallas in a gas car, and was trying to take as long as possible, I could drill a well, get the oil, refine it, then siphon into my tank in 10 years.

@5:04- if you’re trying to charge your car at a slower charger than what’s available, then why not compare apples to apples and fill up your gas tank with an eye dropper?

drill baby drill

How many of the people pushing the electric car thing actually ride around in an electric car? Have you ever seen Slow Joe in one? If they are so great he should be traveling in one.

Awe hell no. How the hell you gonna put a set of Flowmasters on an EV?!

100 years ago and since was MDOT involved in setting up Standard Oil and Sinclair gas stations? How many Sinclair Brontosauruses did the fore-runner of a State agency to MDOT purchase with tax dollars? Is the State going to operate these EV charging stations? Have you ever encountered an out of order vending machine at a State operated Rest Stop? Do you actually think you'll get a charging service between the hour of noon and 1 p.m.? This whole thing is nothing more than a federal gov't money grab. Oh it's out there fellas, better get it while we can! Let the free market decide which and where EV charging stations should be located and operated.

Mississippi
The Boulevard of Broken Dreams
If you build it they will come, and go!

On the way back fromAustin last week. Stopped in Waco at the Collin Street Bakery store on I35. There is a Super Charger station ext door. 20 Teslas charging, drivers getting cookies and lunch while charging. 20 charging stations, all occupied. One young lady said they drove from Dallas to Florida and had three stops. I agree that there are and will be issues with total EV vehicles but they are not going away.

Not all EVs are the same.Tesla doesn’t use the same chargers as other cars.

@10:35 am - roughly 80% of EVERY state's funding for highways and bridges comes from the federal government, not just your "communistic" thoughts about Mississippi.

But thanks for your thoughts, for whatever they were worth.

There are 4 fuels for power plants. Oil, coal, natural gas and nuclear.

Electric power isn’t grown out of the sun yet.

Only 1% of the cars in Mississippi are EV.

1% !!

Stopping to charge, waiting in line, and inefficient use of energy and time are completely unAmerican. And that tells you all you need to know about the dip$#!t$ pushing this nonsense.

Can we get an I DID THAT sticker for MDOT please?

Pony Express, change horses every 20 miles, or Comanche shoots the horse out from under rider, rider smokes the horse over mesquite for a week, straps it to a travois and eats on it, dodging wolves and arrows, for a month at 2.5 mph. But nobody can eat a car.

Who needs all the superfluous, silly arguments, like above example, by story tellers here to understand that fossil fuels are 3X more efficient than hippie energy and your Tesla relies on natural gas/coal fired generated electricity in the end, anyhow.

@10:27 - there are things called solar panels which generate electricity from the sun. You should check them out, they are pretty neat. Also, even if the electricity for your EV comes from a natural gas plant, that plant is far more efficient and pollutes far less than the same amount of power generated from many small internal combustion engines in vehicles.

All you ignorant poors can just keep seething. I love my Tesla Model 3 and I have a reservation for an EV Silverado. I will also buy the new EV Corvette when it drops. If you are below my socioeconomic class then your opinion is worthless. There would be no progress at all if technology waited on you impoverished inbreds. If progress were left to your average Mississippian, we would all live in rented double wide trailers and drive used cars.

8:41 wants to be seen as a conspicuous consumer but is more likely a small dealer-temporary owner of his wet dream machines which are used low mileage demonstrators or similar.

Note that the Model T replaced horse pulled buggies only when they were cheap, rugged and practical. Tesla is a beautiful show toy, not the future.

And they all lived happily ever after, isn't that correct @8:41???

Me thinks 8:41 is being facetious.

But true enough it is hard to tell these days.

You naysayers were probably against computers and the internet too, yet here you are typing away from your mother's basement.
Even in our own little state of Mississippi, Nissan has committed a good portion of their production line to electric vehicles. They are coming. Regulation needs to come in the form of uniform charging receptacles.

Every automaker in the world has announced they are scaling back ICE car production in favor of EV. Covid-19 supply chain issues have accelerated this time table. The few ICE cars they are making now are selling for high prices, nearly as much as an EV!

So when is Air Force One going electric?

Millions of EVs have been recalled from nearly all manufacturers since 2018, mostly due to battery fires. 830,000 Teslas are very near a recall right now and Musk is cutting back employees.

80,000+ Mach E Mustangs have just now been recalled and Ford says component costs to produce the car have recently added $25,000 to each. According to "Tech Crunch", Analysts say Ford is losing money on EVs.

It can take millions of tons of strip mining by slave labor in third world countries to extract the Copper, Lithium, Nickel, Manganese and Cobalt to make EV batteries. Then it travels by Bidenflated diesel trucks and ships to get here.

Envision this my fine future friends.
A hurricane is headed to Gulfport. Everyone jumps in their EV powered car to take routes away from the coast. The battery dies on I-55, or HWY 49. The evacuation route become parking lots.

This won't happen with gas vehicles. Someone, Triple A will bring you 5 gallons of gas if you run out.
Thank you Toe Joe Biden & MDOT.

@8:59 - unless your car floats, it’s not going to be driving in Gulfport in this future of yours.