The Greater Belhaven Neighborhood Foundation issued the following statement to its members.
The Greater Belhaven Neighborhood Foundation has been meeting routinely for months to discuss ideas and topics as they relate to the security and safety of our neighborhood. We have identified these key strategies:
- Security Cameras: Each Blue Light camera installed costs about $6,000. These cameras are tied into the Jackson Real-Time Command Center. The software at this Command Center is vitally important to the success of this program.
- Road closures: This requires permission from the City. A temporary road closure would cost approximately $5,000 per location. A more permanent and formal road closure could cost approximately $20,000-$25,000 per location.
- Self-reported Incident Reports: Build into our website a method to allow neighbors to submit an Incident Report so that we can internally collect data on types of crime, dates of occurrence, and any other relevant facts surrounding the incident. This would provide us all with more data and could help us identify trends or repeat offenders. We could then assist law enforcement with solving cases or prosecution of criminals.
- Form a Neighborhood Watch
- Routinely meet with leaders in our adjacent neighborhoods (Midtown/Mount Helm/East Fortification) to discuss ways to address the increase in criminal activity
We need your feedback to determine the best next steps. Please click the Survey button to take a short survey. (Not included - KF)
65 comments:
Taxing themselves so dope smoking cops can watch them get robbed on camera. Madness.
Belhaven doesn't have a neighborhood watch? wow.
So much liberal white cope! Y’all just stay right there and turn Belhaven into a mini fortified Johannesburg!
Next you are going to install flame throwers on your cars just like the white Sud Afrikaans did in the 1990s!
Wonder what roads they would like closed.
Installing the cameras and tying them to JPD is one thing. Having someone competent in-place at the Jackson Real-Time Command Center to monitor the cameras and take action, is another.
Form the City of Belhaven. Use Buckhead template
Neighborhood incidence reports to track crime because the incidence reports that the city has are not usable. Got it
We need to dead end several entrances into the neighborhood. Deadens them by curb and landscaping just like they did in Fondren off frontage to stop all the St. Andrews traffic .
How many families live in these projected areas? How much will each resident be charged (taxed)? How many $6000.00 cameras are projected?
$20-$25K for a street closure barricade? Has Belhaven learned nothing from their future as predicted in Mad Max 2? All you need is an old J-Tran bus with corrugated tin on one side, some stacks of used tires, and a crazy kid with a boomerang.
Don't homeowners pay city taxes to fund a police dept to keep them safe? I am serious people.
Command Center isn't manned. Closing a road also means that the home owners assume upkeep and ownership of that part of the road adjacent to their property. STOP AND FRISK is about all you got folks. Quit being morons.
It is barely conceivable that the COJ is so bankrupt that they would push the cost of modern crime prevention measures like cameras onto any neighborhood - which already pays taxes for basic necessities like public safety. And what is the difference between a "temporary" and "permanent" road closure - and how is there a $20K cost difference? Next thing COJ will send an estimate to pave the roads...
Just a bunch of feel good, do gooder liberals getting exactly what they deserve.
Exactly 1:37...as soon as y'all find a way to keep that St Andrews traffic out and you will have the lion-share of the Belhaven problems licked.
Neighborhood gates do not seem to be a crazy concept in many many of the neighborhoods in Ridgeland, Madison and Flowood. The difference being those neighborhoods were recently developed and only have a couple entrances. Belhaven has been here over 100 years and was laid out and built up in a grid pattern well before the concept of limited access. There are many entrances into the neighborhood. Don't understand the hate towards other people's choices.
Get out! Get out while you can!
1:33 for the win!
The Jackson Real Time Command Center is supposed to be operated by four LEOs and a Supervisor. Live videos from all over the city can be tracked 24/7 to detect crime and coordinate immediate responses.
https://www.wjtv.com/news/new-jackson-police-project-connects-over-600-live-street-cameras-to-detect-crime-and-send-help-immediately/
$6,000 cameras? WTF? Are chowke and his sister getting a piece of the action?
Most of the Belhavenites who favor the "tax ourselves" plan either don't know or don't believe what our Mayor said publicly on TV. Whatever money we raise is money that the City of Jackson will not have to spend on Belhaven. Will we still be paying city taxes? Of course.
By the way, not all of us in Belhaven are raging Liberal Progressives. Many of us are conservative. We are just outnumbered.
I could drastically slow down the crime anywhere in the City of Jackson for about $125. No $25,000 road closures required.
Step 1: Go to the Bank with a $100 bill. Ask for 10 rolls of quarters. There's 40 in a roll so now you've got 400 quarters.
Step 2: Spend the other $25 on tubes of JB Weld.
Step 3: Randomly glue the quarters to the streets and sidewalks throughout Belhaven.
Pro Tip: Concentrate on the areas in view of the Real Time Crime Center cameras. Leave a few loose. Consider them "PPE incentives". Sit back and be amazed at how much the crime has slowed when the criminals spend time bending over trying to pick up a quarter instead of car jacking you.
Belhaven is lost.
This is the GBNF warning Belhaven that crime is going to get worse and an acknowledgement that Lumumba and JPD are unable and unwilling to protect the citizens of Jackson.
Sad when a city sinks so far that a neighborhood has to form their own security force. Bold city ok!
orrrrrr they could just move to Madison or (*gasp*) Rankin County?
Note to Robert St.John: cut your losses now and stop your Fondren project.
The normally unsafe Jackson water will not even be flowing within a few weeks. (cold weather, busted water mains,and the usual poop fountains in the middle of the streets).
Regarding Belhaven residents ... DEAL WITH IT !
Ya'll have had twenty-five plus years to get out, so no sympathy for any of ya'll that chose to remain.
Is there evidence that the real time crime center has been instrumental in detecting a real time crime and responding? Seriously, just wondering. Haven't seen a story on it-
All reactive measures, nothing preventative.
Because prevention may hurt someone's feelings,and we can't have that.
Volunteer victims.
Well 1:24, it'll be a sight better than what you stupid Dim-O-Krats have done in the last 10 years, other that your feel good voting for a radical clown who is so far over his head, he needs to look up to see "down:......
On the news this evening there was a murder & the Dollar Tree was robbed just 1 building down from the murder. That tells you a lot about Democratic leadership of cities.
At what point do you tell yourself it’s not worth it????
Attn 3 30 these cameras are waterproof. They work in the rain and snow.
Projection @ rate now 168 murders YE 2022 in Jackson, Mississippi.
January 13, 2022 at 6:57 PM
I can buy waterproof ubiquiti 4k ic cameras for $450. G4 Pro
We need some investigative journalism into the Real Time Command Center.
What a dumbass environment to intentionally live in. Surprise the kids with moving to Belhaven, where succumbing is exponentially increased, simply for opening the front door.
6:26, the progressive Liberal/Dim-O-Krat voters never learn. They just keep ignoring the problem or blame it on someone not in office anymore or like they did in VA during the I-95 cluster fu*k, blame it on someone not even sworn into office yet.
Just when you think it could get any worse than Odummer, along comes Joe, slow walking, stumbling Joe.....
But the big question is, what will it take for the light bulb to go on? Guess their local Shirly Temple watering hole will have to burn down like they did in the peaceful "Protest" in Portland or Seattle, but then they've all gone so far rogue "stupid" they just sit there like Pskai with that "wtf" look on their faces.
White guilt is expensive.
350 Belhaven residents already spend $35 per month on the little white security cars driving through the neighborhoods.
How much to arm and train each citizen, and place warning signs.
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SAF: stop and frisk all over W Jxn.
Many who live in Belhaven area have employment in or related to the three hospitals which are a rare bright spot in Jxn.
I'm with @1:40. Rabid boomerang kids is the best solution I think.
@7:23 PM, I just had a thought. Maybe the Chokster is taking the Ebenezer Scrooge approach. Perhaps he's sees the ever-increasing murder rate as a way to "decrease the surplus population". I'm just sayin'........
@6:57 PM - Yes, I know. I used to install HD/IP security cameras. Waterproof enclosures cost about $30 retail.
Foundation smells trouble on the horizon for CID voter approval.
Wish one person could explain why it sticks in their craw that we choose to remain in Belhaven. I'm not remotely irritated about where you live, unless I have to drive 30 minutes to your house. I have never been accused of being liberal.
### Metro Ad Valorem Millage Rates (2020-2021) ###
Jackson = 69.03 mils (Belhaven 'pay-more-for-less' CID rate)
Jackson = 63.03 mils
Canton = 56.32 mils
Edwards = 47.0 mils
Clinton = 41.49 mils
Bolton = 36.3 mils
Flora = 34.5 mils
Byram = 34.1 mils
Brandon = 33.0 mils
---> Current AVERAGE = 32.94 mils <---
Raymond = 30.72 mils
Madison = 28.8 mils
Florence = 28.4 mils
Terry = 27.85 mils
Pearl = 27.5 mils
Ridgeland = 20.03 mils
Flowood = 20.0 mils
Richland = 19.0 mils
Gluckstadt = 12.0 mils
* excludes County & School District
Funny how some of y'all think everyone in Belhaven is liberal.
Once the brewery opens, the only thing missing from Belhaven will be a neighborhood pool.
They should get some more blue light cameras. The only entrance worth maybe closing would be Gillespie in my opinion. I totally get laughing at paying 20K to close an entrance.
Haters gotta hate.
To go along with the Buckhead comment, I agree, East and Northeast Jackson should consider becoming their own city.
Belhaven to Mad Max isn't a huge leap.
Okay, we get it Kingfish, you like to beat up on Jackson. You feel better now?
The enablers are out in force. They choose to be abused. Leave them alone to enjoy their complete civic dysfunction as they see fit.
People in Jackson are paying in taxes 5.75 as much as those of us in Gluckstadt!
We bought outdoor cameras for $100 each. But we also understand that they don't prevent or stop crime.
Who cares. Sounds like everyone involved is a pussy. There’s a major testosterone shortage in Belhaven and everybody knows it.
Dear Jackson Haters,
Most of the comments I read from you are based on facts. I’ll be the first to admit that as I scroll through them, I often find myself questioning whether or not I’m making the right decision by remaining in Belhaven. It would make much more sense to move to Madison. But then my irrational brain takes over when I start imaging what it would be like to have one you assholes as a neighbor, so I stay in Belhaven.
Well 4:59, kind of hard to call it hate when people state the facts and it's apparent you have no clue to the facts. You think that living in your little safe place is going to protect you.
Guess you'd rather pay money you don't have than live in a decent place like Madison. You'd rather buy bottled water or boil your water several times a week than just turn on the tap to get a drink of drinkable water.
Why I bet you and your wife don't mind driving to Madison or Flowood to go shopping when you have all the fine shopping venues in Jackson. Please keep your money and stay in Jackson, you're going to need it with those new garbage fees, extra police camera fees and to keep padding the drowning mayor and his sister's bank accounts.
We're rather pleased you're staying in your little bastion of denial than go somewhere and vote stupid as you seem to do in Jackson. I'd guess you're looking at a bigger asshole in the mirror shaving, than you'd live next to elsewhere. Sucks to be you!
4:59 THRILLED that you're not coming to corrupt our neighborhood!! We LOVE our neighbors!!!
6:08 has a neighbor that wishes they had stayed in Jackson.
4:59, many of us in Madison were raised in Fondren, Belhaven and Northeast Jackson. A lot of us have parents who still live in Jackson. Come on up, the water’s fine.
A Belhaven person here,
12:25-1) What are you overcompensating for? 2) Testosterone shortage? We have current and former Belhaven and Millsaps football players wandering around the neighborhood. We are the ones that have no problem going for walks while living in the most dangerous city in the USA, never scared.
You keep overcompensating and thinking you are going to take on four or five guys with guns at night who have the element of surprise on their side assuming you’re referring to all the carjackings we had, and you keep thinking you are tough when you gotta lives in the burbs.
By the way, just because we have Democrat city officials doesn’t mean everyone that lives in Jackson is a Democrat.
Another thing, I know more super liberal people that live in the burbs than in Jackson.
Well...you certainly rebutted the testosterone comment with your claim that there are several ex walk-on football players wandering around the neighborhood. How many who played real football at JSU, MSU, OM, USM and Valley? And not let's not count the girls volleyball alums.
Second question: How many Harleys are parked in the entire hood?
Last question: How many have jobs that require they arrive at work by 7:15 a.m. as opposed to between 9 and 11:00 a.m.? This is an important question. Think deeply.
1) No idea. How many of the guys you cheer for have no business going to the schools you listed above from an academic standpoint? Do they only make it by having two tutors and professors that look the other way?
2) So, you overcompensate by having a Harley?
3) Again, commenting about crap you have no idea about. Plenty of people are gone well before 9.
Haters gotta hate. Trolls gotta troll.
No 7:49, I have new neighbors who just moved from Jackson to get away from stupid people and your thug neighbors.......
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