Thursday, August 14, 2014

Rankin Chancellors strike gay-marriage registration

Rankin County Chancellors Dan Fairly and John Grant threw out a gay marriage registration that was filed yesterday at the Chancery Clerk's office.  Jennifer Kelly and Anna Guillot filed a registration for a New York marriage license (see p.4 in the documents posted below.).   The court order states:


the filing of these documents was done without the personal knowledge and approval of the Clerk of Court....

the deputy clerk who accepted the validity of accepting and filing of the documents without questioning the validity or legitimacy of the filing.  Proper or improper filing of documents is not the responsibility of the Clerk or his deputies. ...

it is hereby ordered and directed by this Court that the clerk of Court shall not, unless otherwise directed by the Court or a Superior Court, in the future receive or accept any filing or attempt to file the recordation of any document which evidences, appears to evidence, or even attempts to evidence the sanction, recognition and or endorsement of same sex marriage.....

The Court stated same-sex marriage violated the Mississippi Constitution.  The court accused Kelly and Guillot of using "subterfuge and trickery" to make it seem Rankin County or Mississippi endorsed gay marriage.  The court ordered the clerk to strike the registration from the records.

 

49 comments:

Anonymous said...

Was this a Larry Swales problem?

Anonymous said...

Don't they see this as history repeating itself. This was done to interracial couples forty years ago. We can't pick and choose which marriages and from which states Mississippi declares valid. Equal protect clause and all. How about for once Mississippi not being last and under Supreme Court order and choose the right side of history.

Anonymous said...

Social conservatives: people that want small government . . . until it comes to policing your bedroom

Anonymous said...

notwithstanding the subject matter of the order, I question the authority of these judges, sua sponte, to strike any documents from the general index in the office of the Chancery Clerk. assuming, arguendo, that they do have such power to strike or regulate the contents of the general index, doing so without notice is probably going to be a problem and give these persons a forum to air their concerns. they made a mistake for the long run.

Anonymous said...

The language of that Order is disgusting and fitting for a State that refuses to leave an 19th Century way of thought.

Disagreeing with gay marriage is one thing. Describing as "abhorrent and repugnant" the effort by a couple to have their marriage respected is hateful and unnecessarily forceful.

Mississippi gleefully wills itself into last place now and forever. It will get what it deserves until the public demands better.

Anonymous said...

They're just following the law as a trial court is supposed to do.

Thank goodness we have people like The Black Knight, er, Chris McDaniel making our laws.

"Folks worried about gay people are either really stupid [The Black Knight & his Theopublican collegueas] or really worried that d___s are delicious."

Anonymous said...

On first impression I believe the order of the chancellors is void, as an unconstitutional judicial encroachment into the affairs of the executive branch, in violation of the separation of powers doctrine found in the Mississippi constitution. The order may have deprived the due process and equal protection rights the persons filing their certificates, giving rise to an action by them under Section 1983.

Anonymous said...

Skulduggery, chicanery, tricksterism, tomfoolery, high jinks, low jinks and in-between jinks. If you are waiting for this benighted state to catch up with the past, you have a looooong wait. Rarely have so many been so proud of so little.

Anonymous said...

Wait hang on a second here, you mean there are Guillot's in New York?

Anonymous said...

Amusing and entertaining considering the unquestioning acceptance by many Rankin Countians of Thad Cochran's open adulterous relationship with a member of his paid staff. Morals ... Ethics ... Christianity ... LMAO.

Anonymous said...

How does Chris McDaniel stand on this issue? If he needs their votes in court...he just might support it!

Anonymous said...

I don't think Rankin County would have been my first choice.

Anonymous said...

3:38, You obviously know squat about the Pentateuch-those fine folks are right in line with the dogma. Adultery is a sin that can only women can commit.

Anonymous said...

Larry Swales IS the problem! The only good new is that he is never around to screw things up anymore than he already has!

Anonymous said...

Looked at the statute. The legislature says the Chancery Clerk SHALL file instruments tendered to the general index. This order will not survive the challenge that is surely coming.

Compare and contrast: merits of a suit vs. the sua sponte ruling of these judges VERSUS Chrissie McDenials specious election challenge. Lesbians will prevail, Chrissie gets bitch slapped.

Anonymous said...

Rankin County is number one in the state for incest cases, highway 80 business corridor is "usury central"....you would think they welcome such abominations out there!

One Man - One Woman said...

How many times can Tom Head and Jody Renaldo post in rapid succession (sux-session) on this blog?

Pappy Odaniel said...

What an outrage! They should march down to City Hall and have Tony Yarber recognize this marriage immediately...maybe Jackson could be a sanctuary city for these beautiful relationships...I mean it is freedom summer, right...Si Se Puede

Anonymous said...

I could give a shit what gay people do. But just because you want to live together don't make it a marriage.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Judge Fairly and Judge Grant for ruling according to law in this matter.
To those of you who are ranting against these two upstanding and moral gentlemen, please be advised that we really could care less about your immoral ideas.
Homosexuality is a sin. God said so and he is the ultimate authority. Here again, some of you probably don't believe that either. That is your problem, not ours.

Anonymous said...

I would have thought there would need to be an actual case before the court for them to make a ruling. I have never heard of judges wandering around the Chancery Clerk's office and checking the records for "errors" and then issuing an order. That would appear to be far outside their nomal judicial duties.

Anonymous said...

McDaniel should have filed in Rankin. He would not have a hard time convincing the judges "those people" should not be allowed to vote.

BTW, that is the most irresponsible judicial order I have seen since the 60's when the state was clinging to the last gasps of segregation.

Barri Gordon said...

Looks like the ACLU will have another case on its' hands. Their lawyers wrote a letter to Harrison County for not accepting the filings. I suspect they will have a field day with this idiocy. What is wrong with people that they need to make others feel "less than" - there is No reason for this.

Anonymous said...

Pretty positive McDaniel is against it as he has clearly stated during his campaign that he believes in marriage between man and a woman.

Anonymous said...

I think people do things like to create a stir and bring attention them or their cause. Rankin county was a sure bet.

Carry on

Anonymous said...

For all the people here using morality and God as the basis for your argument: you need to comprehend for the benefit og the State, the fact that the Bible and the Constitution are indeed two separate documents.

Anonymous said...

According to the timestamp on pg. 4 of the document, as well as a couple of websites, this couple actually filed the document in Rankin back in March. Apparently, the chancellors' fine Christian morals were so disturbed by this incident they decided to let this sit on the books several months until they could take advantage of the media coverage of other couples filing in other counties. And they accuse the lesbian couple of subterfuge and trickery?

Anonymous said...

Lets not start using the Bible as the basis for moral judgement. I gots a couple of slaves that have been disobedient...

Anonymous said...

Aug 14th, 2:20pm......
Using your logic in your unbelievably dumb argument,,,,so if a high school coach comes forward with a jr. high student and says they are getting married, we accept that?

Anonymous said...

oh my, about 3500 same sex couples in the state, 7000 out of over 2M, yes this is our big issue, after man caused Climate change. i accept same sex marriage is going to be legal Nationally, legal verses right/correct or wrong. glad the Judge threw this out, only adds to the confusion, may the other 5 or 6 that got filed also be tossed.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait until the the State Supreme Court has to rule on this. They will die a little inside when having to side with the girls.

Anonymous said...

This will be another time when Mississippi gets to look like the land of the backwards.

And, we get to shoot ourselves in the foot ...again.

Here's a news flash...if you want to attract industry to the State , you do not want to make it unfriendly for corporations and businesses with gay employees. All corporations and businesses have gay employees now.

We're trying to get the film industry interested again.

Being the " Gays aren't welcome" state will make that impossible and I could see Hollywood leading the charge for a boycott of our state.

Fundamentalists, you have lost on liquor and gambling and you held our state back economically in the process of fighting those battles. This is the same, only worse, because while your family might be tempted to gamble and drink, they are not going to turn into homosexuals if they aren't already inclined!

It's fine for you to share the " good news" but please, stop trying to insist it's your way or the highway for all of us. Not all Protestants share your interpretation of Christianity!

Anonymous said...

With the implementation of the Religious Freedom Act, gay couples that are members of the United Church of Christ should sue the state for infringing on their religious beliefs. Since 2005, the United Church of Christ has told their congregations to consider "wedding policies that do not discriminate based on the gender of the couple." It would be great if LGBT groups used the Religious Freedom Act against the idiots that passed it.

Anonymous said...

MS needs to get with the program and accept gay marriage in other states. People look at us as backwards, things like this are EXACTLY why.

And for the Bible-beaters that say these people are some sort of abomination, why? Is their "sin" any worse that someone who lies, disobeys their parents, or doesn't adequately rest on a Sunday?

Anonymous said...

When all you Christians start taking your vows seriously and put a big dent in the divorce rate you can start preaching about the bible. And another thing, quite trying to figure out whose husband/wife in your bible class you're going to bang next. BJ's, anal sex and "spilling your seed" are outlawed in the bible too, and I bet y'all won't be giving that up.

Anonymous said...

Okay 9:38. Then should Ms become a leader and advocate threesome marriages? How about a group marriage? Why stop with same sex marriage? What is your basis for same sex only? Once marriage is redefined there is no stopping place until marriage becomes irrelevant.

But 9:38 doesn't need logic. He can always resort to labels and name calling.

Anonymous said...

7:27 and his goofy statement implying the Bible supports slavery. Try reading the Bible sometime and stop burping ignorance. Telling a powerless slave to obey a master and focus on heart matters made more sense than telling a powerless slave to buck the Roman Empire. Nowhere does the Bible say slavery is a good thing.

When you have no cogent point you shouldn't obfuscate the matter by throwing out a lie.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure the happy couple really appreciate these idiots stepping right into the trap so easily.

Anonymous said...

So if you buy a house in Rankin County and record the deed with the Chancery Clerk, a judge could just go tear the page out of the book and do away with your property rights without a hearing or any formalities.

Sounds a little like Iran or something.

Anonymous said...

"Rankin County is number one in the state for incest cases, highway 80 business corridor is "usury central"....you would think they welcome such abominations out there!"
August 14, 2014 at 5:06 PM

Why do you think these guys want to discourage Lesbians from living in Rankin County? It's generally the Lesbians in the family, who make a big stink about the molestations that some Rankin County menfolk find convenient, normal, and even somehow 'biblical'.

I imagine it's about like when the Lesbian Aunt in the movie 'Bastard out of Carolina' raised a ruckus, when she discovered that the little girl's stepfather had been brutally beating and raping the child (while the girl's own mother had been turning a blind eye to the situation). Without that meddlesome Lesbian, Ol' Step-Dad could have kept right on a doin'-it with impunity.

Just because you drive a brand-new Infiniti SUV, and live in a brand-new $400,000.00 Arcadian-style MacMansion, with "full granite" and "stainless-to-the-max" appliances, overlooking the 'Rez', that doesn't mean you don't still "cleave unto the Old Ways", when the lights are out.

I'm thinking that a good many pawn-shop-ownin', every-word-o'the-Bible-is-true-believin', daughter-diddlin', "prominent" big men up in Rankin County Churches, are breathing a sign of relief! The rejection of that filing will surely mean that tidal waves of meddlesome Lesbians will now NOT descend upon their little corner of Heaven, to disrupt 'Family Values: NIKNAR-style'.

Anonymous said...

"Nowhere does the Bible say slavery is a good thing."

You are aware that there are two parts, or "Testaments," in the Bible? The Bible was just fine with slavery.

Anonymous said...

It would be a benefit to this website if people who dissented with those more conservative than themselves would offer a reasoned argument and not default into the tired sarcastic name calling. Crying out "Bible thumpers", "family values" and "hypocrisy" is nothing more than an easy way to demonize.

Then again, maybe the reason they resort to name calling is because they have no sound arguments.

Anonymous said...

"It is the sound and convincing opinion of this Court that, despite those who chose to not believe as this Court does, ultimately we are to be arbiters governed by equity and conscious."

How embarrassing.

Anonymous said...

There are many old subdivision covenants recorded in the clerks' offices that prohibit sales of lots to racial minorities. Those racial restrictions are clearly unenforceable. I know of some in Hinds County, and I bet there are a few in Rankin County. Will these judges also proactively, without the need for motion by any aggrieved party and without a hearing or testimony, order those covenants removed from the land records?

This is the sort of animus that causes laws to be overturned.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure we have a law in the state that was supported by 86% of voters.

Anonymous said...

10:03 am Don't be ridiculous !
I am, as are all rational people, tired of absurd arguments meant to scare the uneducated and mentally challenged!
Marriage is a legal contract and there are requirements for being able to enter into a contract!
No one is forcing churches to marry those their religion finds should not marry!
These women didn't ask a church to marry them! The filed for a license to marry with the county. They didn't even ask to be married in the state, for crying out loud!
In case you haven't noticed, we aren't arresting those polygamists in Utah even though there are laws against polygamy because politicians don't want to be accused of violating their religious freedom!
They are arrested for child abuse!


Anonymous said...

10:03

Pretty sure my licit is backed up by the bible. While your "slippery slope" logic is mostly just fear-mongeri g and hate. Accept it, people are different than you. Denying them rights because you view their sin as worse than yours is hate, pure and simple.

"Let him without sin cast the first stone."

Anonymous said...

12:10 Please point out who is calling for stoning these people.

1:31 Nice statement with nothing to back it up. Your post fits in nicely with this thread, lots of accusations that are short on facts.

Anonymous said...

Anna Guillot has been a trouble maker ever since Madison Central. I was wondering where the little bitch went too.

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