Jackson Jambalaya

Yes I think there will be. The panels will be in the hospitals and they will take the patients age and any other medical problems a person has and decide if they get the life saving treatment they need. This just my opinion but I believe that if Obama gets his way it will happen.

A public debate on how people die is avoidable if one simply trashes Obamacare. People don't want to know what happens as medical attempts fail to meaningfully extend human life. Hospitals, docs, and families don't want you to know how big medical failures occur in their loved ones final couple of years and how much it costs. Human life is messy near the end. Its not a political win for anyone especially the industry that feeds on medical heroics and palliative care.

7!l4am 's opinion is worthless because it's based on what they want to believe rather than any sort of fact based knowledge.

They certainly want to believe that treatments exists for every medical condition and never do more harm than good.

I expect he/she believes also that no such thing as a doctor that is on drugs or who goes crazy. So hospitals have never, ever had an oversight function in place...and never have. Nor has the health insurance industry ever decided what treatments a patient can receive based on what they will cover.

Geez, will you try to learn about how things currently work before you form a " belief"?

It would seem that a LOT of people owe Sarah Palin an apology.

Such b.s.!

One post at JJ: premiums going up! Insurance unaffordable!

Another post: death panels! Care denied!

Does anybody really not see the contradiction here?

There's no such thing as a free lunch. Right?

10:09 Only if you're a "progressive". Government care from cradle to grave. Others have to pay and die broke.

I know how POTUS can get 7 million people on ACA by March. Force all those democrats to sign up. Leave the republicans alone to have private insurance. That solves it!

People don't want to know what happens as medical attempts fail to meaningfully extend human life.

Who gets to decide what is a meaningful extension? You?

"Who gets to decide what is a meaningful extension? You?"

At present, BlueCross. People don't seem to mind for-profit "death panels."

Please, not the "death panel" demonstrably false, Sarah Palin level garbage again. Even all the Repubs., save Sarah, quit telling that lie years ago when it was so thoroughly disproven by simply reading the ACA.

Stick to the legitimate criticisms of the ACA, like the rollout debacle, but you lose all credibility with dredging up the "death panel" nonsense again, just like the man who started this propaganda again that KF cited to killed any credibility he ever had.

And KF, I'm sure you will now post Mark Halperin's retraction of his alleged "death panels" comment, which he now says he never said "death panels" and doesn't believe that Obamacare contains any. Google "death panels in Obamacare." It's at the top of the list.

Did you watch the video? Obviously not.

Nice try, dumbass

"In Mon int., I did not use the words 'death panel' nor do I believe the ACA contains them." Mark Halperin's Tweet after the interview cited here. The interviewer, not Mr. Halperin, used the term "death panels," and Halperin now has clarified what he was trying to convey.


To leave that out of the story and instead insult the messenger creates the misleading impression that Mr. Halperin believes in death panels in the ACA. But like you like to say, it's your blog, you can do what you want to.

End of life is 28% of government expenditure so we do need to talk about it. If you pay for all of your healthcare, fine. Truth is most of us get help and we all pay. End of life is a governance issue on the state and federal level.

Now politicians would rather have third party payment which is why insurance will be a mandate for modern life. The cost accounting of medical care will be the area where IT will improve medical decision making and finally the public expenditure. Robust IT systems will wrestle the coding away from the AMA which will in itself introduce rationality and focus the public debate.

Public health is very dependent on nutrition. Until the processed American foods, agriculture, and fisheries are matched with the proper behavioral aspects of health- we will continue to have poor health and outrageous public expenditures.

November 28, 2013 at 8:00 AM = also wants to control your choice of 1-ply versus 2-ply toilet paper

8:00 Sorry to be so blunt, but you're a delusional loon who has obviously never practiced medicine or dealt with the families of someone who is critically ill, or obviously (to a trained observer) about to die. Relatives sometimes want everything possible done, don't give a damn about the cost, and threaten to sue if you don't comply. IT will have no effect on this ("Everybody wants to go to heaven; nobody wants to die").

The AMA and coding have nothing to do with this, you moron - coding is done AFTER the death or discharge.

Better nutrition is always a good idea. However, if you think it will prevent you from dying, well, we've already determined you're a delusional moron.

The application of software to hospitals is just a business process that enterprise resource systems handle for other businesses. As IT gets data from various sources not just a code, it will be more helpful to the hospital industry.

Searching the current medical literature one finds that coding has had little to offer modern medicine.

Secrecy is a hindrance to software development in the industry. Underwriters have assembled a lot of data on payment and hospital stays...also disease and morality. Its got to get down in the weeds, however,to be more effective.