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This is too important to become a partisan pissing contest.
The science matters. The facts matter.
It should not be lost that the facts STILL do not support the Richton dome as a rational choice.

It wasn't rational 3 decades ago and both MS Republicans and Democrats came to understand that.

Why are we reinventing the wheel? The book should have been closed on this.

If Grand Gulf shuts down because it can't dispose of waste, what will that do to rates Mr. moak?

You do realize that the US government detonated a nuclear bomb inside the Richton salt domes, Mr. moak?

Alas, you are a dimocrat and not the sharpest crayon in the box.

5:59 I haven't seen anyone in the Republican party or any elected official come out in favor of storing nuclear fuel in Richton. Can you show me where?

That nuclear detonation occurred in 1964 at the Tatum Salt Dome near Basterville Oil Field. Many Gulf Oil Company oil well casing cement completions were fractured, causing saltwater to flow into fresh water aquifers.

Grand Gulf will not shut down. The WHIPP site is still in operation.

The promise of thousands of jobs and billions in revenue cannot be proven. This facility would required specialized contractors and highly skilled labor. There might be a few road builders that get some work and some manual, low paying jobs.6:55 pm, read the headlines in today's CL. Bryant called everyone opposed " ill-informed" or having an " overreaction".

He has apparently forgotten this plan was studied for years once before and both political parties,every key state and national representative of the state and finally, the federal government conceded that the Richton site is a no go.

Are we going to spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollar again to " study" this like last time ? I doubt it. We shouldn't spend a cent as the research has already been done. It sits in storage.

Who is this group making the proposal? I think we need names and know who is financing this.

5:59 no nuclear bomb in Richton. Not that it matters, but it was actually near Baxterville at the Tatum Salt Dome where the nuclear blast happened in the 60's.

5:59pm 7:56 pm is correct. What is known about the long term effect of the underground tests at Tatum is limited to what the Dept. of Defense chooses to share.

But, we do know from years of research done by the state when the federal government put the Richton salt dome on the list of possible waste sites, that it is totally unsuitable.

Why are we doing this again?

Only a dim-wit like Phil Bryant would open up the door on some issue like this. Haley must have called him about it, or maybe Henry or Austin have a client they are lobbying for that sees money in it. What a pud Bryant is, Haley might have been a lobbyist money-grubber but he was so much smarter than Phil.

King, take a look at the 990s. Johnson is double dipping for himself out of the "charity". Just gave himself a 20% raise. It is a slush fund.

So technology hasn't changed in 30 years? I say update the studies to see if the same dangers exist. If not, then the Governor is right to try and create jobs. If so, then the Governor should lead the charge to keep the storage facility out of Mississippi. Either way, we still don't have enough information to make the decision, and those who have already made up their minds without that information are indeed ill informed and have overreacted.

Bill,any improved technology ( and I am assuming progress in reprocessing )doesn't change the geology. It doesn't change the unsuitability of dome salt.It doesn't change the weather patterns. Our methods of transport nor our transportation arteries haven't changed significantly. The waste would still be coming in primarily by rail and ship. It does not change the properties of radioactive elements.
It will NOT create jobs for Mississippians as Mississippians are not skilled in the areas needed. The socio-economics are not different.interaction with water, which is plentiful in MS.
There is no question this problem could be solved IF, instead of profit and politics driving the decision making, the same effort that was put into creating the unintended consequences ( the Manhattan Project) was put into finding solutions. We need our best scientists leading this effort, not our entrepreneurs.
And, we have more than a small obligation to future generations as some of the radioactive elements present for more than the next fiscal quarter!

By the way, who is going to pay for the necessary infrastructure improvements that will be necessary?
Last time, the feds were going to pick up the tab.
Let me guess...taxpayers and rate payers?

No nuke trash in Ms! No bullshit! Not here!! If you are one of the morons that are cool with this, put your family next door to where it will be placed!!! Assholes!!

well- southern miss could change its mascot to the glowing golden eagles if theres a problem!

Wait a minute...Isn't the current storage site in New Mexico a government site? Isn't there a reason our high level waste is controlled by DOE/DOD? Savannah River and every other site dealing is owned by DOE or DOD.
What is this Mississippi Energy Institute?
Is a commercial site even legal?
Where are they buying the containers if this isn't a DOE project , from the French?
If they are going to reprocess, who are they going to sell it to?
What is the federal role in this?
There SHOULD be one.
Something isn't right about this.
They are either a front group for the feds, in which case, our citizens should be outraged by the deceit, or a bunch of con men.
Do these guys even have the knowledge and experience if they aren't a front for a current governement contractor like URC? This would have to be a high tech mine shaft with an underground facility that, among other things, can't be bombed.
Something is very fishy here and apparently our Governor is either not asking the right questions and just seeing dollar signs or is complicit.

Bill, technology has changed. But, it was never the technology, it was the geology. It's the dome salt that is the problem. It is the ability to respond in a timely way to the weather patterns so you can secure all the cannisters.
You understand that this is first of all, a mine shaft.

Jed Clampett, aka Feel Bryant, is simply a puppet in the process. Whoever pushed his button on this one, and handed him a script is watching it play out, sitting in a big chair in front of a flat screen, drinking Crown and Coke.

Bryant would actually be dangerous if he had a teleprompter.

What is this....Day 16 and still no toxicology results? And Kingfish has removed all mention of the girl from Madison, found in the woods. Hmmmmm.

Now, back to LaRita in 3-2-1.

@ 8:39.

The State of Mississippi now owns and controls the Salmon Site of the Tatum Salt Dome nuclear detonations.

The feds didn't exactly say Richton was unsuitable. Of the 5 sites that were finalists, 3 were salt domes, Richton being one.

If this is our best effort at economic development, we're getting mighty desperate. Maybe we can start offering all of the gulleys in Mississippi as landfills for the mountains of trash generated by larger cities while we're at it. Perhaps we could find a way to store sewage from neighboring states so that they don't have to deal with the smell. There could be big money in that.

Just give the Nuclear Waste to Scott Walker and Joe Cloyd....it will disappear faster than you can say Workforce Housing. And I'm sure they must be experts in nuclear waste disposal as they seem to be experts in everything else tied to other people's money.

7:52 am...officially, no...in house , yes and the siting program was abandoned as a result. The other two, as I recall were granite and in highly populated areas and then there's the commercial value of granite. There selections were going nowhere as they banked on the least political resistance. The granite was never seriously pursued. They spent the bulk of their time here hoping they could confound bubba with those big words.

7:52 am Don't you want to share what that means in terms of responsibilities and what is being monitored?

I see that Patrick Sullivan is President of MEI. Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that worked for Haley and also Lester "Beef Plant" Spell? Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that, as a member of the Mississippi Land, Water and Timber Resources Board, voted to fund the Beef Plant? Is this the same Patrick Sullivan that went to France with Phil Bryant and toured a nuclear recycling facility? Wonder who paid for "Cowboy Phil's" trip?

The ignorance shown by all the posters here that have taken this he Richton Salt Dome and "nuclear waste storage" must be Stan (no issue too good to popularize and make into a cause) Flint's cousins and neighbors!


The proposal that was discussed Monday about a 'nuclear fuel' project is not anything like the national nuclear waste fuel storage facility that was considered for Richton decades ago. But evidently 8/28 5:59 chose to ignore this little detail and opened up the discussion and a half dozen others jump on the "waste storage/Richton" bandwagon.

Read the details - and quit your Brandon Presley type popularism. As I read it, the proposal was to take spent nuclear fuel and reprocess it. From there, it will be sold and reused. It could be done most anywhere but specifically does not require a salt dome type facility because it wouldn't be for long-term / forever storage.

I don't know if it is a good idea or not. But I do know it has nothing to do with what many of the comments on this site have said, just as lobbyist Flint's comments have nothing to do with the facts either. But, no surprise there, its his stock in trade.

Thanks 9:01 am...now we know this IS a scam.

Yes; The same Patrick Sullivan. He's one of Haley's "Up and Comers" sorta like the Yoste boys usta be. In other words, he's developed as a 'good soldier'.

Dear Lord, I hope this does not come to Mississippi.

I saw Stan Flint dressed up in as a cow one time holding a sign that said "NO MORE BULL" He got his point across.9:40 must be Josh or Quinten and sound mad because Gov.Phildo is running around making all of these conflicting statements like "That is your neighbor's lawnmower fumes not crude oil you are smelling." Drives them bonkers. You go Stan,you and Louie have the high road on this one.Josh and Quinten are still sore from the pickling of Pickering at Joe's a couple a weeks ago.

Focus people, this is important. 9:01 is exactly on the money. I wonder if there is a board member of MEI that has a client trying to locate a nuclear recycling plant in Mississippi because the project is a no go in another state they have already approached, i.e., Texas?

Remind me again why Phil went to the Paris Air Show?

12:13 - good question. And at least you got the facts correct. A "recycling plant", not a storage facility. Understand that Natchez wants it - far cry from Richton.

Feel went to Paris to try some S-car-go? To hang out with other 3rd World Leaders? I give up Why did Feel cross the ocean? To get to the other side? I am still trying but I can not come up with a good reason.

Aug 29, 7:17

You are lying or don't know how to run a search on this website (hint: look for the words "search on this website" on KF's home page.

Try here:

http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2013/08/search-is-still-on-for-abigail-bonner.html

nothing has been taken down.

He used to have a FORE-OH-WUN-KAY. Maybe he was rolling it offshore.

Sam Hall has some interesting info on his blog over at the Clarion Ledger:

http://blogs.clarionledger.com/samrhall/2013/08/28/bryant-visited-french-nuclear-recycling-facility-in-june-with-mei-president/

Phil is not telling the public the truth. Wonder why?

9:40 am you are showing YOUR ignorance.

Tell me how you are going to do a " fuel project" involving nuclear materials without storing spent fuel on site????

You can use all the euphemisms you want, but the problems are the same.

Trying to draw on Presley and Flint negative images is a tactic that you wouldn't need if the facts supported your position.

You are banking on everyone being as gullible and easily bought as our Governor apparently is!

So...really lie and tell us there is no unused spent fuel.

Spamming Sam Hall over here @ JJ. LMAO.

Natchez? Well, it'd be marginally better than Richton given it's proximity to the MS River and the weather patterns, but they'd better build a really, really good above ground facility with first rate security far enough from the river and with great plans, when it becomes obsolete to seal it properly.

I feel like I'm watching a Mickey Rooney /Judy Garland movie. " I've got an idea, let's do a play!".

Just because you've seen a Broadway play, doesn't mean you can produce or star in one and have it be successful!

I do not know enough about this matter to make a comment. Don't know the history and haven't looked at the science. I suspect the same goes for most commenting on both sides.

What is France's nuclear safety record, by the way?

I do not know enough about this matter to make a comment. Don't know the history and haven't looked at the science. I suspect the same goes for most commenting on both sides.

What is France's nuclear safety record, by the way?

It's very good, KF, but they have approached nuclear energy in a scientific way. That is why they are far ahead of us.
They see providing power to the citizens as a responsibility, not as a business. They consider it part of their national security policy.
In the end, it's not about the safety of nuclear energy. I've never had any doubt it could be safe.
It's about the suitability of both the Richton dome and our State's ability to be home to such a facility.

KF...look up Sen. Stennis' high tech effort in MS that still needs to be guarded by the feds.
This will be the same for the same reasons.

Let me post my previous post from days ago to start:
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only a dim-wit like Phil Bryant would open up the door on some issue like this. Haley must have called him about it, or maybe Henry or Austin have a client they are lobbying for that sees money in it. What a pud Bryant is, Haley might have been a lobbyist money-grubber but he was so much smarter than Phil.

August 28, 2013 at 9:06 PM

NOTICE I MENTION THE BARBOUR CLAN BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS IN ORDER TO REPRESENT A CLIENT THAT SEES $$$ IN THIS WHOLE NUCLEAR ISSUE. NOW I PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE, THE LINK, PATRICK SULLIVAN, MEI PRESIDENT, WHO ACCOMPANIED BRYANT ON THE TRIP TO THE FRENCH NUCLEAR SITE AND COMPANY THIS PAST JUNE, HE WORKS FOR AUSTIN BARBOUR, OWNER OF CLEARWATER GROUP, AS A LOBBYIST:

TABLE 1: All Clients of SULLIVAN, PATRICK ↑Client↑ States Years Associated Contributors
CLEARWATER GROUP, LLC
Uncoded MS 2012 1 possible contributor matches totalling $300
CLEARWATER GROUP, LLC
Uncoded MS 2012 1 possible contributor matches totalling $300
MISSISSIPPI ENERGY POLICY INSTITUTE
Uncoded MS 2012

Lot's of anonymous comments here. This is an open offer to debate anyone regarding nuclear waste. Television, radio or other media. Of course, that would require self-identification.

Stan Flint

BTW - someone else was in the bull costume. I was next to them carrying a 4'x8' sign that said, "BULL". Different issue, but the word applies to this proposal also.

I put my money on Mr. Flint in any debate on this subject as he made a point of being well informed during the siting selection process. He knows the Avery Island tests results , the problems at the WHIPP site and about the late Dr. Freudenberg's research.

I would remind everyone that Mr. Flint was Mike Moore's and Mike Parker's campaign manager and went to DC with Parker. He's nobody's fool when it comes to politics. Underestimate him at your peril.