Update from Hattiesburg:
Judge throws out all absentee ballots. Orders special election. However, more evidence of possible witness intimidation:
Gag order lifted. Apparently this took place on the second day of the trial: City attorney asked Police chief to run NCIC check on one of the witnesses for Ware. Police officer testified to this in chambers on the record. NCIC check was clean but witness refused to testify so was not called by Ware. Judge placed attorneys under gag order to keep from corrupting the trial record and thus avoiding the potential for a mistrial.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
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Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
47 comments:
Not the best result but it is a BIG step toward righting this abomination perpetrated upon the citizens of Hattiesburg by that THUG Dupree and his merry band of idiots! I DEMAND that Dupree be forced to pay for any and all cost of this special election....
After Scruggs, Ms was considered second only to Louisiana for Jackassery in politics. Mississippi may have moved up a notch by now.
It IS INDEED 'the best result' and exactly what Ware was asking for. However, like in Canton last week, the corrupt one may win the second election as well.
And to think many people voted for Dupree for Governor. Had he won, Stokes might be head of the highway patrol with Graham in charge of the Department of Employment.
When I moved here many years ago I was informed that although Louisiana had the crookedest legislators in the US Mississippi was proud to have the dumbest.
Maybe things are changing.
Looks like Precious and the Waterboy just took one on the chin.
Dupree's 'gang' will be out in full force and he will win next time by a much larger margin. There ain't no damned way to stop crooked democrats.
Y'all are hilarious. If a Democrat wins, then he/she cheated. If the Repub. wins, it was because God decided to let good prevail that time.
Juror intimidation is a a serious crime. Until somebody is charged and convicted of that crime, I do not believe anything of the sort happened. Sounds like Repub. propaganda to me.
Let's allow the voters to decide in this court ordered special election who the next Mayor of Hattiesburg should be. If Mr. Ware wins, he won it, fair and square. The same goes for Mayor Dupree should he be re-elected again.
These comments really make us look bad. Haley Barbour is the biggest thug this state has ever seen. And we give him a free pass, and some of us would vote for him again if given a chance. He came in, swindled us, and left. How dumb can we be. Phil Bryant is no different than Dupree and Kenny Stokes. Why cant we see this? Are we that blind? Or do we see what we want to see. Dupree and Ware both cheated, Dupree cheated better. Ware is a sore loser. AL Gore took it like a man.Ware tricked all of the USM students just like Dupree duped the inmates. Come on guys, be fair.
If Dupree and his gang hadn't cheated in the first place, there wouldn't be a "special election". These "disenfranchised" can whine all they want... voter fraud is alive and well. They don't give a rip about playing by the rules, abiding by the law... just give me what is mines, I'm entitled.
I suspect Ware will have an easier time raising funds, now that he has proven he can win. I also suspect that the topic of many sermons between now and the election will be about the civil rights struggle, and not giving up ground that was gained.
Should be a good'n. I just hope it ain't so close this time.
10:49; Please come back and elaborate on Barbour's 'swindling' of Mississippi. It's fine that you supported a candidate other than Bryant, but your post is nuts.
To solve the problem of taxation(property taxes) without representation, some uniform mechanism should be in place to allow citizens to remove themselves from the property tax rolls, coupled with the removal of their names from the voter registration rolls. Folks who have no interest in public schools should not be subjected to punitive tax schemes by a mob of the ignorant and uninformed. If there ever was a "poster child" for Mississippi's flawed school bond referenda, it's gotta' be the Mennonite school children of Noxubee county. Drive out through the Black Prairie settlements where the Mennoite families work and live and observe the simple portable classrooms where they teach their own without one red cent from the coffers of the State of Mississippi. And the Mennonite graduates "ace" those GED tests at the EMJC campus when they choose to further their formal scholastic education. Mennonites do not vote in a county that is 90%black, but these same Mennonites suffer the putitive taxation on their farm properties. There is even a special punitive tax on catfish ponds...something like $1300. After the scenic drive through the Mennonite community, drive along HigWay 45 and observe the $14,000,000 brick veneer Noxubee County School Diploma Mill, complete with a $2,000,000 sports complex. Unconscionable!
The republicans never help in local elections--That is why local elections are all going democrat--
@4:47. How about Barbour setting up a blind trust and his former lobbying firm in DC representing at least four clients after Hurricane Katrina. How about Rosemary Barbour receiving 300 million dollar no bid contract(minority set aside) after Katrina. Really I don't know why I even bother to respond to your foolishness. Everyone that can read knows that Barbour came in and stuck it to us. On a another note, Ware has woke up a sleeping giant. Dupree will bus in every old lady from Magee to Perry County. Ware will recruit every Oak Grove and Petal resident that still has property in Hattiesburg. Its the nature of the game, they both will cheat.
10:49 that is a great comment, although you fail to provide any - any - basis for your statement that BOTH Ware and Dupree cheated. The evidence at trial showed many different cases of Dupree camp cheating, but there is absolutely NO evidence of Ware cheating. Just because you don't like Ware, you can't make up facts. If you have any evidence of Ware cheating, bring it on. Otherwise, shut up and quit smearing an individual that you don't like.
Hours of evidence about how Dupree "won". Not a minute of evidence presented, or contradiction of Ware's evidence. The only thing Precious and Waterboy (along with thug Big Daddy Dykes) did was try to throw out the race card and cry that they should be allowed to steal without question.
Dems win these elections with their illegal tactics. And once it was put out in the open, they use law enforcement to try to intimidate witnesses and jurors to hush it up. This trial put it all out there for everyone to see.
NCIC check on a witness? Crime (for both the city attorney and the police chief that ordered it). Sheriff officer telling juror to not talk to court? Crime. Deputy sheriff saying "that SOB will pay" for testifying? Crime. Police chief telling officer to quit telling what happened? Crime.
And that's all 'after' the fact of stealing the election in the first place. Problem now is, Waterboy and his Democrat Trust will stop at nothing to steal it again; just this time they will be more careful in hiding their thuggery.
Politicians are required to set up blind trusts for their assets when they hold office.
10:29 a.m., the only thing correct in your baseless comments is that "you can't make up facts," like you do in your email. And though I am an attorney, you don't have to be one to know that the things that you allege, with no basis, were said by the Deputy Sheriff et al., even if they are true, which I'm confident they're not, aren't "crimes."
I guess it makes you feel good to comment anonymously on here and falsely call attorneys thugs. Your kind of inane chatter adds nothing to the discourse on the issues here.
witness tampering is not a crime? Damn, guess something must have passed in recent sessions of the legislature that I missed.
How about mentioning the other three items of witness (and possibly jury) tampering by the police chief.
Guess being an attorney makes it possible to make up whatever you want to believe.
Oh yeah, I forgot. The witness had already testified. Guess taking a felon and threatening to "make him pay" when you are the chief jailer isn't a crime either. Guess in your world as long as the chief jailer only "threatens" to take it out on an inmate it isn't a crime until he actually does it.
Color of law?
I guess it makes you feel good to comment anonymously on here and falsely call attorneys thugs.
An anonymous "attorney" -- though there isn't any proof of that "fact" -- criticizes another anonymous commenter and uses big terms like "inane". ROFLMAO
The only thing Precious and Waterboy (along with thug Big Daddy Dykes)~
I think that you meant Jimmy Dukes? I see how his outward physical appearance could lead one to confuse Dukes with Dyke. Btw, Jim Duke's FBI provocateur brother was a willing executioner in Hoover's COINTELPRO black ops during the 1960s, operating out of the Jones County field offices. Check out Chancery Judge Chet Dillard's book,The Final Curtain. Dukes and his terrorist band of provocateurs used suborned witness testimony and planted dynamite in the automobiles of suspects.
Observer, you don't get to decide if the Police Chief or anybody else is guilty of "witness tampering." Unless and until somebody is charged and convicted of witness tampering, which nobody will be because it didn't happen, you might enter to consider stopping slandering people with no proof. Like the yarn y'all were spinning on here that the jury vote was really 9-3 till a juror was "intimidated" into changing his vote. Never happened, as we now know after 4 jurors swore under oath that the vote was never 9-3.
You Repubs. are a riot!
Damn, Precious and the Waterboy are real sore.
What will NOT be swept under the rug is the role that Johnny Dupree and that renowned "expert" contract attorney had in drawing up that "sweetheart" contract in the "brewing" USA Yeast scandal. That stink will not go away.
And there is the Eaton School imbroglio that Dupree, Bennie Sellers and the local architect are immersed in by blocking inquiries into how Johnny Miller Roofing Company of Crawford, Mississippi was selected as the prime contractor for the MDAH historic preservation project, when the novice Miller had NO experience in such projects. Miller's shoddy performance has caused the planned demolition of this historic school building. One clue future investigators should check out is the link that Miller has to former USM baskeball "star" Clarence Witherspoon. Miller lives next door to Clarence Witherspoon's sister in Crawford. I suspect that Johnny Miller may have financial backing from Witherspoon. Was Johnny Miller Roofing Comapny bonded as required by law? Why is Dupree refusing to pursue the contractor's "bond" issue. Something's rotten in Hattiesburg! I suspect that Johnny Miller Roofing Company of Crawford, Mississippi was not bonded for this project.
8:48-Barbour set up a blind trust because he had made a lot of money and wanted to eliminate conflict of interest as it pertains to investing the money. As to his lobbying firm- I guess they could have just stopped doing business and do volunteer work after he was elected. I guess they "stuck it to us" by being a successful company? Knock the chip off of your shoulder. Haley Barbour is a successful business man. Are you? Or are you merely jealous? Your inadequacies have nothing to do with it.
Note to 9:39: I am not Precious Martin, whom I don't know, or "Waterboy," whoever that is. In fact, I don't know Mayor Dupree, Mr. Ware, or any of the other key players in the Hattiesburg controversy. (I have met Pete Perry; nice guy).
I'm just calling BS on the allegations flying around on here of illegality when none has been alleged, let alone proven, by any law enforcement agency, state or federal. Untless that happens, all of the crazy allegations on here, like the ones made by Pugnacious, are just meaningless blather.
I can't wait to hear the wailing that will ensue on here if Mayor Dupree wins the election for the second time. Popcorn will be ready!
No way would Precious be familiar with a word like "inane."
9:55,
Read it and weep:
Testimony on the 9-3 vote.
And from KF's own reporting about possible witness tampering.
@10:41
I guess that you could say the 8-3 flip-flop vote was Dupree's Jackie Chiles Moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2EirLJqghA
12:57 p.m., read what and weep? The only testimony mentioned in your link is that of the four jurors who swore that there was never a 9-3 vote. KF opined that he felt like there was "possible" witness tampering.
If that's the best "proof" you have of crimes being committed, then then your allegations truly are frivolous.
This is all meaningless now anyway. Let's see who wins, Mayor Dupree or Mr. Ware.
Page 2 of that CL article. Klem testified about the 9-3 vote.
KF reported what transpired during the trial since the gag order was lifted. Reported. Not opined. See the difference?
Try harder with the lying, k?
The only testimony mentioned in your link is that of the four jurors who swore that there was never a 9-3 vote.
Read page 2, where you will find jury foreman Klem's detailed testimony of how the 9-3 vote tally were secured and laid out on the table for all to see. Judge Coleman ignored this testimony.
To understand the way justice has been meted out in Forrest County the past thirty years, and why any evidence of jury tampering and witness intimidation will NEVER be addressed by the District Attorney, is to look at the case of Chancery Judge Robert Taylor and the role of HPD Scott Morgan in the Jack Diamond fraud conspiracy.
On appeal of Morgan's conviction in trial (Special) Judge William Coleman's court on the Coast, Morgan's guilty conviction was reversed by by Bill Waller's MSSC on the "reversal error" that the Judge's suicide was inadmissable evidence.
Duly noted that it is alleged that the first person to be called to the Judge's home was Scott Morgan. If there was a suicide note, only Morgan and the judge's wife know the REAL truth. The unsung hero in this conspiracy is forensic odontologist Dr. Michael West. Yes, the same Dr. West whose expert, but flawed, testimony in the Brewer case up in Noxubee county was part of the prosecutions's preponderence of evidence that convicted Mr. Brewer of murder of an infant. The Innocents Project secured Brewer's release from prison and the death sentence.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ms-supreme-court/1045363.html
...Highlighting those arguments was the testimony of subpoenaed jury foreman John Klem, who discussed the secret jury ballot that produced an apparent 9-3 verdict in Ware’s favor.
Jurors wrote their votes on slips of paper in a cup, Klem told the court under examination by Ware attorney Michael Reed.
Klem then read out loud each vote cast and put the slips of paper on the table in the jury room.
“When we got finished, it was 9-3. It was nine Wares and three DuPrees. … Everybody saw the 9-3 on the table. Everybody was allowed to look at it. Nothing was kept secret,” said Klem.
But Coleman ultimately decided this secret ballot was irrelevant.
Meanwhile, back at the Ranch. The reason that the discredited forensic odontologist was the hero in the Robbie Taylor conspiracy case is his exposure of the connections between the suicide of the public defender and the Jack Diamond estate swindle. The Forrest County public defender was going to blow the whistle on the shakedown conspiracy. However, the conspirators spread rumors that he was having an affair with a black prostitute. Whether the rumors were true or not, he drove his car into the woods and shot himself. His father was a local dentist in Hattiesburg, and I can only assume that he passed the story of the Jack Diamond swindle onto fellow dentist Michael West who also happened to be the local coroner. After the discovery of the death of the judge, Michael West called for an autopsy required by State law. However, the family, aided by judge Jimmy Jones, overruled West and honored the family's request of no autopsy. Only Dr. West can fill in the details of his confrontation with AG Mike Moore, but I was told that Moore wanted no autopsy, but finally succumbed to Dr. West's insistent demands that State law trumps "doing the right thing for the family." The autopsy did result in declaring that Judge Taylor died from a self-inflicted drug overdose. That ruling cost Dr. West his job as coroner;he was defeated in the next election by a Baptist preacher.
Okay, I missed the Clem testimony. So let's see, one juror testifies there was a 9-3 vote and four jurors testified there was never a 9-3 vote. Judge Coleman, who is a excellent Judge, believes the four over the one. In y'all's alternate reality, that makes Judge Coleman the bad guy. Pugnacious, a more plausible explanation is the Judge didn't believe the secret ballot story.
KF's reporting is great, which is one of the main reasons I read this blog. I simply noted that from what he reported happened, he reasonably opined that there had been POSSIBLE juror tampering. Note the operative adjective.
And don't even get me started on the good "Doctor" West. His name and the word "expert" are antonyms. Mr. Brewer is but one of many victims of the good doctor's bogus testimony about bite marks.
There will come a time when in-exact science evidence--tool mark, bite mark and ballistic fingerprinting- will become inadmissable, along with accounts of eyewitness testimony. Until that time, it is up to informed jurors to weigh the "preponderence of evidence put before them. That was Dr. West's defense in the Brewer case...that his evidence should NOT have been conclusive. Forensic odontological evidence has been used to exclude suspects charged with a crime and to free others who have been falsely accused and found guilty. As are most in-exact medical sciences, they are very subjective in nature. Had Brewer been appointed compotent counsel and had not been tried in a Forrest Allgood courtroom, he probably would have never been found guilty. But those juries and judges in the 16th District seem always to be "out for blood."
So let's see, one juror testifies there was a 9-3 vote and four jurors testified there was never a 9-3 vote. Judge Coleman, who is a excellent Judge, believes the four over the one.~
Do the math. So your conclusion ignores the fact there are seven OTHER jurors unaccounted for in corroborating Jury foreman Klem's explanation of the protocol used to tally and document the vote count--"laying the slips of paper on the table for all to see? Did judge Coleman even bother to poll the other seven jurors to corroborate Klem's documenting the 9-3 count? If not, why?
I defer to Enoch Sanders on Judge William F. Coleman's credibility and integrity.
Pug, Dr. West is a charlatan who has been exposed for what he is. Haven't you heard the one where the defense lawyer sent the good doctor his own bite mark, to which Doc responded that said bite mark was a dead on match to the one on the victim's body. If you had the money back in the day, before West was exposed, ole Doc was your man to say what you needed him to say, innocent accused be damned. To euphemistically refer to anything uttered from West's mouth as "inexact science" is a laugher.
And I love how you assume the other 7 jurors, if asked, would agree with Klem and not the 4 jurors who swore under oath that there was never a 9-3 vote.
Judge Coleman gave Mr. Ware what he wanted, a new election. And you criticize him? I don't need to defer to another lawyer about Judge Clowman; I KNOW he's a good Judge because as a young attorney, I helped a partner in my firm try a jury trial in his court.
Isn't it possible Judge Coleman suspected that any decision he made, other than a new election, was going to keep this matter tied up in court indefinitely? One of the first things Precious asked in court on Thursday made mention of an appeal process.
(Thanks for the reminder of the Bradley/Taylor/Jack Diamond saga. If memory serves, I think Dr. Bradley's involvement stemmed from his personal interest in acquiring the wedding dress preservation business that was part of the Diamond estate.)
And I love how you assume the other 7 jurors, if asked, would agree with Klem and not the 4 jurors who swore under oath that there was never a 9-3 vote.
Read my post. I never ASSUMED that the other seven jurors would corroborate jury foreman Klem's sequence of events. But I think that the judge erred in not polling the "seven" to determine if the "four" in effect LIED about the final vote NEVER being 9-3.
Is CLOWMAN some sort of Freudian slip. Or did you just omit the "m" from clownman in error?
Enoch Sanders is not an attorney but he has the goods on Ed Peters and apparently knows something on Judge Coleman.
Pug, "Clowman" was one of those crazy computer spell check words it created. I have no idea if Judge Coleman did or didn't speak with each of the other 7 off the record to determine what they remembered about the vote, and you don't either. He could have asked them on the record back in his chambers as far as we know. A whole lot of stuff happens in law world that's not in open court, which much of the time I disagree with that, but nobody has yet appointed me the Czar over all Judges(joke, just to be clear).
So I get it, somebody who allegedly has dirt on Ed Peters says he has dirt on Judge Coleman, so by saying that, you try to make folks believe that Judge Coleman must be like Ed Peters? That's called egregious character assassination, without a scintilla of proof to back it up, in my world, Pug.
More evidence of systemic police intimidation of witnesses in Ware v. Dupree
http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/more_evidence_of_systemic_police_intimidation_of_witnesses_in_ware_v._dupre/
"Do what?"
Q. And who directed him to run the NCIC check?
A. City attorney, Charles Lawrence.
Q. The city --
THE COURT: Do what?
THE WITNESS: The city attorney.
Q. -- attorney. The city attorney for the City of Hattiesburg?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. The one that works under Mayor Dupree?
A. Yes, sir.
http://yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/more_evidence_of_systemic_police_intimidation_of_witnesses_in_ware_v._dupre/
Pug, "Clowman" was one of those crazy computer spell check words it created.
I feel better, now...I thought were experincing a Tourettes Syndrome Moment.
I have no idea if Judge Coleman did or didn't speak with each of the other 7 off the record to determine what they remembered about the vote, and you don't either.
And obviously, you don't care to know the truth? You want to gloss over the seven other witness testimonies that may or may not corroborate Klem's account of how the foreman of the jury(Klem) arrived at the original 9-3 vote count. Isn't the mandate of a jury to weigh the evidence and establish the truth? And you don't find the absence of the other seven jurors' witness testimony to the original--before the threats and intimidation--"laid on the table for all to see" 9-3 vote tally to be problematic in identifying which jurors lied in Judge Coleman's court room, when they said that there was NEVER a 9-3 verdict? And you think that judge Coleman acted in good faith to put these three jurors in physical jeopardy by demanding that they reveal their secret vote in open court? Unconscionable!
Pfft!
If you had the money back in the day, before West was exposed, ole Doc was your man to say what you needed him to say, innocent accused be damned.~
So,it is not egregious character assassination to claim that Dr. West, without proof, used his Hattiesburg dental lab as a evidence fabrication mill, selling such tailor-made evidence and his testimony to the highest bidder? Yes, I am aware of the case that you cited from reading Tom Freeland's blog on the Brewer case. When I think of Tom Freeland, I cannot help but to think of the Parker family tragedy.
Of course you must be aware of Tom Freeland's Amazing Mitigating Boo-Boo Defense arguments before the Fifth Circuit of Appeals? The Fifth Circuit bought it..hook, line and sinker!
http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/04/it-aint-over-til-racist-black-mass.html
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