Here is the text of the Lieutenant Governor's speech at the Neshoba County Fair this week. If any other officials send their speeches to JJ, they will be posted as well.
Thank you for welcoming me back to the Neshoba County Fair! It’s always an honor to participate in this special Mississippi tradition.
My wife Elee is here. Elee and I appreciate the fair organizers giving me this late speaking slot, because we had a late night in Jackson with our two older daughters Tyler and Emma at the American Idol concert. Maddie, our newest addition, stayed home.
Like most everyone in Mississippi, our girls became big Skylar Laine fans. She put on a great show.
I have to tell you that being in a coliseum full of screaming teenage girls was a little challenging. With three young daughters, I guess that’s a preview of what’s to come at my house in the next few years.
And I have to say … I am NOT ready for that!
But after going through my first legislative session…how much worse can it be?
You’ve heard from Commissioner Lynn Posey and Commissioner Dick Hall on all the ways they’re working to keep the lights on and the roads safe.
You’ve heard from Stacey Pickering about how he’s working hard to protect our tax dollars. And you heard from our Attorney General Jim Hood.
General, my girls have been watching so much American Idol if they were here Tyler would’ve said your speech “was a little pitchy,” and Emma would’ve said it was “just alright” for her. But I’m sure they would invite you back and give you one more shot!
Neshoba Countians, you should know that your Senator Giles Ward is doing an excellent job representing you and leading the Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks Committee.
I have been a hunter my entire life, and I have put Senator Ward on notice that if we don’t have a good season next year, I will hold him personally responsible.
We put together a solid leadership team in the Mississippi Senate this year to represent the entire state. We didn’t just appoint leaders from central Mississippi where I’m from – and we didn’t limit leadership to just members of my party. We put a team together that reflects all of Mississippi.
It was a pleasure working with the first Republican Speaker of the House since Reconstruction. As a team, Speaker Gunn, Governor Bryant and I passed strong, conservative legislation.
We completed the session on time and saved you money. There were several Fridays and Mondays when the Legislature took off because we got our work done and everyone went home. We saved taxpayers more than $375,000 by getting the job done and getting the politicians out of town!
And, for the first time in ten years, the Legislature passed a balanced budget on time.
If only Washington could do that we would all feel better!
We also did something good for our economy. We cut the taxes businesses pay on their inventory. What a difference a conservative majority makes!
The liberals have opposed this tax cut for years. But it’s just common sense. Now, our small businessmen and women can AND WILL invest more in growing their businesses and putting more Mississippians to work.
I campaigned last year on cutting government waste, and one of the most egregious examples has been our spending on state cars.
Taxpayers have paid for about 7,500 vehicles – that’s one for every four state employees – even buying cars for the government in a recession, when most Mississippi families couldn’t afford to buy one for themselves.
That is far too many government cars. So we placed a yearlong moratorium on state car purchases and ordered a two percent annual reduction in the fleet for three years. That’s going to save you, the taxpayer, $12 million.
You may also remember that I stood here a year ago and promised not to slap every legislator’s favorite pet project onto the state credit card and burden your children and grandchildren with unnecessary debt. I said it, and I meant it.
For the first time in the memories of most people, we did not have a bond bill this session. It was time to draw the line and take a break from the borrowing.
There are some good projects, some projects that we need. And I hope we get some of those funded next session. But I can promise you this – just like the Senate did this year – we are going to offer a conservative borrowing plan for only the most essential needs.
We must permanently change the mindset in the Legislature about borrowing money. Every dollar we commit to servicing debt is a dollar that can’t be invested in public safety, healthcare and education every year.
We cannot let feel-good debt threaten our priorities.
Another accomplishment in the last session is that our budget set aside money in the Rainy Day Fund for only the second time in eight years, and we ended the fiscal year with $268 million more dollars than we anticipated.
Now there are some people in Jackson who are mad that we didn’t spend more of your money. They see it as THEIR money and believe we have to spend all of it. I don’t see it that way.
Our state economist predicts that our revenues will not return to pre-recession levels for another two years. He described our economy as weak and vulnerable. That should be reason enough for us to continue saving and watching what we spend.
But if that’s not enough, we now have ObamaCare as the law of the land, and we’re going to need every dollar we can find if it remains the law. If we expand Medicaid like the President wants, we’ll have to find another $1.6 billion over the next seven years. Clearly, we can’t afford that.
I don’t know about you, but that’s one more reason why I’m hoping for some change in Washington this November!
Speaking of change, we are taking the first steps toward real reform in our public schools.
First, we invested nearly $30 million more than last year into K-12 education.
Did you catch all that? We saved money, we stopped borrowing, we cut taxes and we STILL were able to put more money into our schools.
That is conservative leadership at work!
Next year, we will put an even brighter spotlight on education.
We must support our school system, but we must also raise the level of expectations for everyone – for administrators, for teachers and most importantly for our students.
Raising our standards won’t be easy. Unfortunately, some in our education establishment have too often become more focused on the appearance of success than on achieving real results. There are some who are more worried about protecting their positions or their turf than they are about graduating more students and getting more students into college.
This was obvious two weeks ago when the state Board of Education removed graduation rates from the state’s accountability system for rating schools.
Let me repeat that: Our state Board of Education told school districts that they need not worry about graduating students to earn a good rating.
So while we’re struggling with a 17 percent dropout rate – which experts say is probably much higher in reality – those who shape our education policy are saying, “Don’t worry about graduation rates. That’s not important.”
Why did this happen? Because the Legislature tried to raise the bar.
We revamped the way our schools are rated to create a clear, easy-to-understand system: A, B, C, D and F.
Beginning in September, we will do away with the current system that lumped school districts into SEVEN different categories that never clearly communicated how those districts and the schools in them were performing.
For example, we have about 50 districts labeled “successful,” but some of those have a majority of their schools rated below “successful,” and two districts labeled “successful,” had NO SCHOOLS rated as being “successful,” or better.
The new A through F grading system will create transparency. Students and parents will know what those ratings mean. We all know what we expect from an ‘A,’ and we all know we can do better than a ‘C.’
Some of our education leaders are more worried these grades could embarrass principals or administrators…but I’m more worried about the opportunities for our children than bad P.R. for the adults.
When you compare Mississippi’s average ACT scores to other states, we show the lowest percentage of students displaying college readiness in all four ACT exams.
That’s not good enough.
According to ACT standards, we adequately prepare only ten percent of our students for college-level work.
That’s not good enough.
We shouldn’t hide these dismal results – we should change them.
The education status quo is failing us. The way up is not to bury our heads in the sand. It’s to confront the hard truths – and change our approach.
When it comes to the new grading system, we didn’t just make this stuff up. We’ve seen it work with our neighbors in Louisiana. We spoke with Governor Bobby Jindal and others around the country who said this system made a difference in their states.
Former Governor Jeb Bush’s Foundation for Excellence in Education said they started this grading system in Florida in 1999, and their student achievement has skyrocketed. At first, they had 500 schools graded As and Bs. Today, they have more than 2,300 schools earning top grades. As Jeb Bush would say, “What gets measured, gets done.”
We know the new grading system is not a cure-all. That’s why we’ve also allocated $500,000 to accreditation review teams to go into our school districts and closely evaluate where they are on all 37 standards set by the state. For us to improve, we must know what needs improvement and what standards aren’t being met.
Other positive steps taken this year include the consolidation of some failing school districts. In Sunflower County, we had three separate school districts all under state control. We consolidated those into one district and required an appointed superintendent. That will free up $1.2 million that can be spent in the classroom instead of the central office.
In Bolivar County, they had fewer than 7,000 students in SIX school districts. We are trying to reduce those districts to three, which would free up $1.3 million in administrative costs that can be re-directed to classrooms. That consolidation effort is currently in the hands of the Justice Department – if anyone has any connections there, I hope you’ll put in a good word.
We are not done yet.
I will not stop pressing for public charter schools until they are a reality in Mississippi. The Senate passed it; the House did not. I’m not quitting.
Charter schools give children better options in Memphis, Arkansas, and Louisiana. We know they work. There’s no good reason for denying parents a voice in the education of their children.
Some of our education administrators view charter schools as a threat.
I, on the other hand, view public charter schools not as a threat to our school districts but rather as a tremendous opportunity to reach students who aren’t being well served in the traditional system.
Public charter schools will provide a choice for parents and students – a choice that could help keep more of our children in school, that could help increase our graduation rates, that could help increase student achievement and that could help increase the overall education attainment level of our citizens.
I have a message for people in both parties who are scared of the future of education reform: buckle your seat belts. Reform is coming to Mississippi!
Our families depend on us to improve our economy. And our economy depends on improving our education system. It’s not more complicated than that. Everyone involved knows it. Everyone involved agrees with the objective.
Surely, we can come together….and work together…and embrace a better future together. Our people deserve nothing less.
I look forward to continuing to work with educators, legislators and citizens to achieve those goals and to keep Mississippi the best place in America to raise a family.
Thursday, August 2, 2012
Tate Reeves speaks at Neshoba
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Trollfest '09
Trollfest '07 was such a success that Jackson Jambalaya will once again host Trollfest '09. Catch this great event which will leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Othor Cain and his band, The Black Power Structure headline the night while Sonjay Poontang returns for an encore performance. Former Frank Melton bodyguard Marcus Wright makes his premier appearance at Trollfest singing "I'm a Sweet Transvestite" from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show." Kamikaze will sing his new hit, “How I sold out to da Man.” Robbie Bell again performs: “Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be Bells” and “Any friend of Ed Peters is a friend of mine”. After the show, Ms. Bell will autograph copies of her mug shot photos. In a salute to “Dancing with the Stars”, Ms. Bell and Hinds County District Attorney Robert Smith will dance the Wango Tango.
Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
22 comments:
Poor "little" Tate failed to mention that NO one likes him now at the capitol...his "little" plan of making up with his fellow republicans now that the session is over isnt working out to well....people are pissed and looking for payback...if he tries his "little" tricks again next year he is in for a spanking from the adults in the room...Im sure he remembers the last one he got from Bryant, Gunn, and some others when they trapped him in a room at the capitol and TOLD him what was going to happen if he didnt play nice....poor "little" tater-head...he pouted and stormed out of the room that day!!!!
Don't see how Tater can approve any bond bills going forward considering his rhetoric.
How many bond bills did he actively lobby against while Treasurer?
Like ZERO?
How many bonding issues before the Commission did he vote Nyet against beyond Jackson's?
Tate reminds me of a guy who would strap on full protective gear (helmet, elbow pads, knee pads) to ride a bicylce through his gated community--using hand and arm signals at all of the stop signs.
What's his appeal beyond "he's got a war chest."
Sounds like complaints from people who didn't get their way. Thank heavens someone is there who can be an adult. Otherwise, if it were up to Bryant, they'd be talking about social issues all day long and continuing to tax and spend like always. Tate is the only one up there who's concerned with actually getting something done that will improve the economy.
Reeves wanted a bond bill. Just one smaller than the House version, which included some sportsplex facility in a certain House member's district and other wasteful nonsense.
Maybe next time House Rs will be more willing to negotiate. They're the ones who insisted on having it their way or nothing. Reeves simply decided doing nothing was better than wasting money.
Reeves wanted a bond bill. Just one smaller than the House version ...
Screw you. Reeves DID NOT want to negotiate in good faith in, or out of, conference. He WAS the baby who unilaterally picked up his marbles and ran home to mommy. He's not some f'ing wise sage as your blather about doing nothing alludes. He made the bed that he'll have to sleep in going forward and it won't be some ideal peaceful rest going forward. You don't know jack shit about what you are talking about.
Interesting. I was a Tate Supporter but I am hearing that he does not communicate well. He has not been to visit and talk to Heads of Departments or Commissioners to see what their needs are although Gunn did make the efforts to these appointed Commissioners. I think he needs to make an effort to talk to people to see what their needs are and understand their positions. He is not approachable and seems uncomfortable. I think he has time to change that perception but if he does make an effort I think we will see Lynn Fitch in that position. Go play nice Tate!! We have Republicans in office and yall should all be getting along!!
Re-dristricting is over, time to play with all the player now
How many bond bills did Reeves actively lobby against during 8 years as Treasurer?
You want take down Reeves yet you won't even reveal who you are. Hiding behind "Anonymous". Give me a break.
I think there was a 'Miss Clairol' blonde hair on a couple of those posts. Ahem.
Everyone who knows what's going on out there knows this. It's time for someone to say, "the emperor has no clothes", I'm sorry, there's just nothing there. Millsaps folk are nice people if you know them, they are just completely out of tune with Mississippi. It's starting to show.
Tate made some decisions that ended up being unpopular with some of his fellows. That sometimes happens in lawmaking. From what I hear he's a very good communicator if the message being communicated is that you really shouldn't mess with him too much. They'll work it out. I'm just thankful that we're having a discussion about Republicans fighting one another now that we're running the show. That's not a problem we had a year ago...
Funny how Lynn Fitch wants to despirately follow Tater's game plan to be on TV more than Grey Daniels Auto Mart. Her comments at NCF were centered around educating the public on their financial literacy. When has that been the job of the Treasurer? Again, sounds like a formula to tons of cable tv ads.
Hey 1:36, I thought this was a thread on the LG. One more post like that and some of us will know who you are. I think this broke state needs leaders (ones who want fight with fellow Republicans) who can lead. I think that post is a perfect place to promote that. Using your logic, the First Lady would stay at home and bake cookies, They've done some great work over the years and so should all our leaders.
I fail to understand folks on this blog who want to berate Tate for NOT spending our money on another bond bill. Why do we need to issue bonds every year? Anybody on here that has thrown out comments against TR actually have any idea what was included in either version - either his or Jeff Smith's?
Bonds to buy computer software? Outdated in five years but paying for it over 20? Bonds for roofs and maintenance? Even Smith admitted that years ago these were done with appropriated dollars, but when budgets "got tight" we started borrowing. Damn!! That's like the kitchen table talk at home - hey, honey, the budgets tight so just put it on the credit card.
I, for one, am proud to see a Repub that isn't promoting more corporate welfare, which is what a lot of those MDA programs were - but of course Smith wants more of those cause it's good "for budniss" up there in Lowndes County - and for the legal offices as well.
Sorry - if you don't like Tater, that's ok. But think about these complaints before you throw them around. He was "stopping" the spending - isn't that what we really want?
I fail to understand folks on this blog who want to berate Tate for NOT spending our money on another bond bill.
How many bond bills did Reeves actively lobby against during 8 years as Treasurer?
During 8 years on the bond commission what percentage of the total bonds that came before the commission did Reeves vote against?
Anybody on here that has thrown out comments against TR actually have any idea what was included in either version - either his or Jeff Smith's?
Yes, it has has been discussed here at length already. Where have you been?
The issue isn't what was or was not in the House bill. The issue is that Reeves refused to negotiate in good faith. Period.
Why don't all you Tate haters shut the f--k up with your anonymous bullshit?
Between Governor Brainless, and Speaker Gutless, all Mississippians should be thanking God for Tate Reeves.
You whiners just form a line and keep waiting for Tate to kiss your asses. It's gonna be a while.
How many bond bills did Reeves actively lobby against during 8 years as Treasurer?
During 8 years on the bond commission what percentage of the total bonds that came before the commission did Reeves vote against?
i cannot decide of Tate is a lobbied RINO or a liberal in disguise but there is not much difference. . . this guy must be voted out first chance there comes an election. . . if he is to be Gov, we are all in deep doop.
2:29, what has Tate Reeves done that would lead you to conclude that he is a RINO or a liberal?
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