The current and former Sheriff's of Hinds County had a little tussle this week. Someone leaked to the media an opposition research report on Sheriff Mac that was produced during the campaign last year. Mac didn't take too kindly to the "report" and had a few things to say on camera. Words such as "incompetent" and "panties" were used. The report and video are posted below. As for the report, keep in mind it was produced by a Democrat opposition research firm. As such it will present only one side.
Here is a brief table of contents:
P.4 Executive summary and analysis
p.27 Spike in crime
p.37 Can't keep inmates in jail.
p.68 Hinds County kept safe by crooks
p.98 Friends with benefits
p.123 Budget nightmares
p.157 Bad file-keeping led to freed criminals
p.182 Harming the cops
p.187 Excessive force
p.199 Hinds County jail problems
p.238 Tax problems
p. 240 GOP fund-raising
Some of it is legitimate criticism, other parts are pretty weak. The huge spike in Jackson crime after 1992 is blamed on Mac. Hard to take that part seriously when most of the crime was in Jackson and thus under JPD. His handling of the Irby case is mentioned near the front of the report. Criticisms of that case have been made on this website. One interesting part is page 235: It criticizes Mac for opposing an assault weapons ban. Sure you want to go there?
Note: If you are using an Ipad or Iphone and can not read it, the report is in flash.
Thursday, August 9, 2012
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
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Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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Trollfest '07
Jackson Jambalaya is the home of Trollfest '07. Catch this great event which promises to leave NE Jackson & Fondren in flames. Sonjay Poontang and his band headline the night with a special steel cage, no time limit "loser must leave town" bout between Alan Lange and "Big Cat"Donna Ladd following afterwards. Kamikaze will perform his new song F*** Bush, he's still a _____. Did I mention there was no referee? Dr. Heddy Matthias and Lori Gregory will face off in the undercard dueling with dangling participles and other um, devices. Robbie Bell will perform Her two latest songs: My Best Friends are in the Media and Mama's, Don't Let Your Babies Grow up to be George Bell. Sid Salter of The Clarion-Ledger will host "Pin the Tail on the Trial Lawyer", sponsored by State Farm.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
68 comments:
It's an oppo report - by definition, it's everything anybody ever said bad about you from kindergarten on up. Worth the paper it's printed on.
Not sure where the tussle part comes in. Has Lewis said he agrees with the report?
Regardless, one would rather McMillin "rose above" and treated it as beneath comment, rather than getting touchy.
Seems to be rather pointless releasing this now.
It is textbook Obama August 9, 2012 3:51 PM. Lewis' equivalent of "Bush did it".
At the end of the day, we'll see who runs a twenty year term. Trying to be diplomatic, and then being so cowardly to not admit you leaked it to the press from your own administration, is about as weak as comes T- Rone.
Grow a set, and stop playing the Blame Game!
You've got 3 1/2 years left.....Enjoy.
Does Anderson even live in Hinds County?
I've always admired Sheriff Mac's balls.
given the type of people that are atrracted to LE and the quality of applicants, any sizable agency like HSO is really just one step away from disaster. The key is to keep it all together. Obviously T-Bone aint doing to well at this. After all the problems he is having he gives permission for this report to be released. Its only a good strategic move IF it works. The problem is EVERYONE knows what your doing...the trick is to get your supporters to go along with it....your detractors know what your shoveling B.S.....getting your supporters to swallow the B.S. it is the key.
"given the type of people that are atrracted to LE and the quality of applicants, any sizable agency like HSO is really just one step away from disaster." - Ass Hat
"You've got 3 1/2 years left....Enjoy."
Who, pray tell, do the rednecks plan on running against him?
If any of you people think there will ever be a white sheriff in Hinds County again, you're on heavy drugs.
Hey Crowley! Wake up and smell it, and finally admit it.
Victor's gona be your New Sheriff.
T -Bone and his gargantuan Idiots he calls a Staff are Gone!
Then you'll have a new set a cheeks to get between.
Based on recent elections in Hinds County, I predict the next Sheriff will be Kenny Stokes and his Chief Deputy will be Hatwoman.
How quickly this became a discussion of personalities and partisan politics.
As KF pointed out, there are some disturbing , verifiable, problems described.
My opinion is that the last Sheriff was good at PR and ingratiating himself with key people in the community, but not so good at his job and that his replacement is not off to a good start.
The former Sheriff's reaction should provide insight into his character and personality which was masked quite well for quite some time.
I would remind everyone that he didn't make the " huge difference" everyone expected when he had the responsibility to reduce crime in Jackson...no key organizational/structural changes that made a difference for the better. That was a missed opportunity and McMillin just proved he was a rural Sheriff and not up to the task .
We will never get the professionalism we need if partisanship and race matter more than competence. We need someone who knows the JOB.
How quickly this became a discussion of personalities and partisan politics.
But, but, but you're still here reading and now posting commentary.
So what parts of the report are and are not true?
Does it even matter about this "report"??? True or not its out there. Some will believe it even if it has lies in it.
I wonder what a report about T-bone would say if it was written?? Would it mention the illegal use of the JPD training facility for dancing that his own son got paid for by cover charges?? Would it mention about his affairs with some other than his wife (which I have heard continues to this day).
I HOPE Victor Mason runs for Sheriff... Victor is awesome and will be a GREAT sheriff.
And your right the days of a white anything in Hinds Co are getting dimmer and dimmer!!
Well I cracked up laughing when I saw Mac tell him to pull his panties up. Hilarious.
Why was my last post shit-canned? I clearly challenged Crowley and 11:55 anon to man up and admit they just said the only options are a crooked and inept black man and a white redneck. Are there no competent black candidates in the wings? Who says the competition has to be a 'white redneck'? Isn't it possible even the larger black community will wake-up in three years and vote an incompetent black out of office?
Isn't it possible even the larger black community will wake-up in three years and vote an incompetent black out of office?
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10:47 is right.
KF: "So what parts of the report are and are not true?"
True: Spike in crime. Sheriff McMillin has to take ownership of the spike in crime. And please spare me the bullshit about it being JPD's problem. The Sheriff has the power to patrol and conduct law enforcement operations in the City. Despite popular belief, the Sheriff does not need King Harvey's permission to do so. More of the Sheriff's resources should have been targeted toward Jackson because that's where the crime was (is). Sheriff Lewis appears to be making an effort to do this, whereas Sheriff McMillin did not.
True: Pissing away 15 grand on stupid looking hats at JPD, while calling for a tax increase to raise funds for law enforcement.
True But So What: Furloughs for inmates. Yes, Sheriff McMillin did this, but it is a sound correctional practice for management of inmate behavior.
True But Not Negative: Firing a "high" number of deputies. Since when is this a bad thing? All deputies had to pass background checks, including polygraphs. The fact that Sheriff McMillin caught, fired, charged and publicized the bad apples that committed crimes after being hired says the system worked.
True But Get Out of the Gutter: The report's criticism of hiring Bracy Coleman because Coleman liked to get laid. Pure garbage.
True But Glass House Effect: The report criticies McMillin for offering a job to Recio and Wright. Wright currently heads internal affairs at the sheriff's office, so that's probably not a fair criticism (I've got no problem with Recio and Wright being in law enforcement, and fault neither McMillin nor Lewis for giving these guys a second chance).
Half-True: Vindictively punishing Tyrone Lewis by demoting him for a minor policy infraction. I do believe it was a minor policy infraction, that Lewis was only doing what had been tacitly approved by JPD Admin, and that the punishment was too harsh. But "vindictive" is a stretch, considering that McMillin re-promoted Lewis about 4 months later. If McMillin was being vindictive the demotion would have been permanent.
True But Not Negative: McMillin clashed with the BoS. Yes, he did, and he should have. The sorry, worthless Hinds County Board of Idiots is the root cause of most of the problems at the Sheriff's Office. McMillin was right to stick the Board's failures in their faces and in the eyes of the public.
Victor Mason will be the next Sheriff of Hinds County . Done and Done.
Shadowfax, "crooked and inept black man?" Seriously?
Here's a sample of some of Tyrone Lewis' alleged "ineptitude:"
Over 1 MILLION dollars (10 kilos) worth of Rankin County SlimFast removed from the streets, and a meth mule behind bars:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.402477623144585.92776.268251336567215&type=1
$100,000 in cocaine taken off the street and a major cocaine dealer in jail:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.380882451970769.88356.268251336567215&type=1
Armed drug dealers arrested, drugs and $15,000.00 in forfeitable drug money seized in the City of Jackson (doing the job Harvey Johnson's campus cop won't do):
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.399741390084875.91924.268251336567215&type=1
2 drug dealers arrested and 50 pounds ($85,000.00) of marijuana seized:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.384938068231874.89104.268251336567215&type=1
That's some of what Tyrone Lewis has been up to while the keyboard warriors have been re-fighting the election and anonymously trashing him online.
I challenge you to find a Sheriff in this area who has put those kind of numbers on the board in the same short time period.
Inept? Bullshit.
All together now, "Thank you, Sheriff Lewis."
True: Spike in crime. Sheriff McMillin has to take ownership of the spike in crime. And please spare me the bullshit about it being JPD's problem. The Sheriff has the power to patrol and conduct law enforcement operations in the City. Despite popular belief, the Sheriff does not need King Harvey's permission to do so. More of the Sheriff's resources should have been targeted toward Jackson because that's where the crime was (is). Sheriff Lewis appears to be making an effort to do this, whereas Sheriff McMillin did not.
Okay, I'll spare you the bullshit but the last sentence in the paragraph highlighted is indeed SHIT.
Using your logic the failure to solve the spike in house burglaries that has been taking place for the past 2-3 months in my NEJax neighborhood is Lewis' fault.
And I've got news for you Crowley, there hasn't been even one damn HCSO cruiser patrolling these streets in response.
So get off your ass Tyrone. Jackson crime is YOUR FAULT.
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4:35, so out of all that I wrote, the best you can do is to take one sentence and use it to display your lack of deductive reasoning skills?
You can't blame a specific crime (or related crimes) on ANY agency, especially over a short period of time. The report cited a county-wide spike in crime over a number years. That was a fair criticism. Also, note that I stated Sheriff Lewis was making an *effort* in this area. The results of that effort will be evident only after a period of time.
Btw, you can't possibly know whether Sheriff's deputies have been on your street or not.
You're just another northeast Jackson cracker mourning the loss of Sheriff McMillin, and couldn't say anything good about Sheriff Lewis if your life depended on it.
Btw, you can't possibly know whether Sheriff's deputies have been on your street or not.
You don't know jack shit Crowley about what you don't know.
You can't possibly know whether HCSO Deps HAVE been in my neighborhood from the perch you jack off on downtown.
The burglaries asshole have been taking place DURING THE DAY. I could produce 50 people TOMORROW who haven't seen one Deputy or Tyrone lift a f'ing finger to catch the perp(s).
Your head is buried so far up Tyrone's ass you're now spewing the same trend shit that Harvey ralphs to explain away the ineptitude of JPD.
There is no effort to solve NEJax burglaries by Tyrone and the HCSO. Prove otherwise asshole.
Mcmillin can't patrol the city with a Understaffed, Highly underpaid Patrol Division, hence... Leaving the County exposed and vulnerable with a very high response time.
Politics will always be based on Race and Gender and based on Geography and Cultures, weather you agree or not, it's a fact.
The best, most experienced, most Qualified person hardly ever get voted in, it's always a Race Issue.
And we can only vote in what we have to work with, judge them on four years, vote them in...or out.
If the truth hurts, take your sensitive ass Elsewhere !
Stop kissing T- Bones Ass, it's really very unbecoming, and actually reflects your Integrity, and Lack of character supporting him based on performance so far, lack of Leadership, and placing his Dumbasses in key positions.
Jackson's 70% Black, and the ones that can, are leaving, thus a Declining TaxBace.
Even the Black community are rumbleing about his incompetincy,and also will only get worse as the years go by.
Ole T-bone either fired you or cut their pay by 20 - 50% moved you, or demoted you....and, lied not once...but Twice about giving them raises in eight months..
How's that for the Truth. And boosting the Ole moral, and Oh the Campaign Slogan...
" we can do better "
Ole yes we can, and will T-bone.
NE Jax business burglary a week ago - very likely with some 'inside' help. Still waiting for JDP to come interview/investigate employees. Manager told that this business was third in line...would be there when they (JPD) could. Still waiting...no confidence in JPD.
And people wonder why tax paying businesses are leaving Jacktown????
5:48pm , my ass is in this century.
I hate to break the news to you but even in the last century, white Charlestonians were delighted to hire a QUALIFIED and EXPERIENCED black Chief of Police who reduced crime.
For damn sure, if you don't expect and demand better , you won't get it.
If it's not working, try something different, why doncha? Start with an attitude change.
I'm still waiting on one of you Lewis-hating keyboard warriors to give an example of a Sheriff in this area who has racked up the kind of high-quality, high-volume drug arrests that Sheriff Lewis has.
Those arrests are facts. That's competence. That's aggressive law enforcement. That's unsurpassed law enforcement ass-kicking at its finest. That is what Sheriff Lewis has been doing while you idiots type and bitch.
5:40, you made the allegation that HCSO wasn't doing anything. Therefore, it is your burden to prove it, not my burden to prove otherwise.
The only reference I made to trends (your term) was that McMillin's tenure could be judged because one could view it over the course of years. Lewis cannot be judged in that manner because he hasn't been on the job long enough. After a few years, you will be able to determine whether Sheriff Lewis' efforts have been effective, and judge his performance accordingly.
Finally, since you seem to know much more about catching burglars than the police, I have a suggestion. If you have a problem with burglaries in your neighborhood and think law enforcement is not doing its job, then STFU, pick up a rifle, and do something about it. If you survive, come back and tell us some more about catching burglars. I might then actually listen to what you have to say.
Curt,
I'm not an attorney, so please forgive me if I appear to be lesser or ignorant to you.
But you stated "you made the allegation that HCSO wasn't doing anything. Therefore, it is your burden to prove it, not my burden to prove otherwise. "
I will have to point out that you are mistaken. You opened this line of conversation with the proclamation:
"Sheriff McMillin has to take ownership of the spike in crime. And please spare me the bullshit about it being JPD's problem. The Sheriff has the power to patrol and conduct law enforcement operations in the City. Despite popular belief, the Sheriff does not need King Harvey's permission to do so. More of the Sheriff's resources should have been targeted toward Jackson because that's where the crime was (is). Sheriff Lewis appears to be making an effort to do this, whereas Sheriff McMillin did not."
The burden of proof lies on you.
Secondly, could you please point me to where I can read about Sheriff Lewis being personally responsible for the actions you listed above? It's quite the intellectual dishonesty to use the backs of deputies doing their normal job as some sort of yardstick to measure the ineptness of the Sheriff.
Lastly, I've caught burglars.... but was only armed with a handgun. I then assume that you will not actually listen to what I have to say.
Intellectual dishonesty is your ridiculous claim that a Sheriff's effectiveness should not be judged by the actions of his deputies. That's perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. Of course the Sheriff's performance is based on the actions of his deputies. In a county the size of Hinds County, the deputies do all the enforcement. There is no other way to judge the Sheriff's performance.
When McMillin's deputies performed well, he rightfully got credit for it. The same standard should apply to Sheriff Lewis.
Your failure to even acknowledge these successes confirms my initial assessment--you wouldn't say something positive about Sheriff Lewis if your life depended on it.
It's as transparent as it is sad. And precisely what I expect from northeast Jackson.
Also, I said Sheriff Lewis was making an effort inside the city. You came forth with one example of burglaries in your neighborhood, and challenged my comments because you alleged that the sheriff had not helped (of course, it's all about you, NE Jxn). Your example does not refute my statement. I know this may come as a shock to you, but there is an entire land mass and inhabitants surrounding northeast Jackson that is actually the City. Assuming for the sake of argument that your unproven allegation is correct, that does not mean that the Sheriff is not devoting resources inside the city.
No, Curt, effectiveness of the Sheriff is not judged by the action of the deputies unless his actions or decisions directly changed things that made those deputies more effective than they were before he got there.
It's analogous to saying the new CEO of a company is responsible for sales the company historically already was achieving.
You said it, the deputies do all of the enforcement. But before, you asked for someone "to give an example of a Sheriff in this area who has racked up the kind of high-quality, high-volume drug arrests that Sheriff Lewis has."
Before saying: "Those arrests are facts. That's competence. That's aggressive law enforcement. That's unsurpassed law enforcement ass-kicking at its finest. That is what Sheriff Lewis has been doing while you idiots type and bitch."
You go on to say:"Your failure to even acknowledge these successes confirms my initial assessment--you wouldn't say something positive about Sheriff Lewis if your life depended on it.
It's as transparent as it is sad. And precisely what I expect from northeast Jackson. "
I have no failure to acknowledge except that I, intelligently, understand that adjunct association is not responsibility for success. If I were to deny those "successes" then I would be denying the hard work those deputies likely put in. I don't. I deny the misplaced acknowledgement you asserted as a justifiable means to gauge the effectiveness of a Sheriff of Hinds County.
By the way, I am the poster at 10:59, not the previous posters you've addressed. Please try to discuss the individual comments instead of attempting to sweep them away under gross personalized generalizations.
I have no personal stake, nor dog in this McMillan/Lewis fight. I'm simply pointing out that your overuse of informal fallacies belie your actual confidence in the person you are supposedly supporting.
The ad hominem you continue to use seems to show a suspect bias in your ability to simply discuss a position without attempting to refute subjects with red herrings that appear to make you feel better about being incorrect.
As I pointed out earlier, you opened the line of discussion in what was being done in response to the aforementioned burglaries. It is on you to provide proof something is being done without backpedaling and saying that if they are not being done, it's because there are other places in the city.
Curt, YOU started this indefensible argument and when realized you stepped onto the side of a cliff, decided to inch closer to the edge instead of just taking a few steps away.
Can any of you show me where Mac made these kind of drug arrest in such a short time? I don't think so. I also like seeing the metro sheriffs working together, this has never been done before and should speak for it self. Also if all of you would try to help the crime problem instead of crying about it maybe something could be done. JPD and HCSO can't do this by themselves.
Hey 9:33, and Curt !
The Issue isn't a Race Issue, or Qualified, or Expierienced issue, it is just what their running for, and that's a Political position, with a a little Integrity, Expierence, and the hopes that you'll do the right thing.
But, we've all been proven otherwise unfortunately due to public,and media accountability, and the fear and consequences that occur when the truth is exposed.
Unfortunately, most of you don't have a clue about LE, so Curt, yours opinions are based friendship,and loyalty towards a friend and a Culture,and NE Jackson are based on long term Political, The Sizable Contributions and loyalty towards the last white Hope.
The Truth is, any and Most Hcso you will see in the city Reserves, who don't know WTH their doing except for presence and violating Laws and ROR' n them the next.
The SO does not have the man power, due to the small budget, and absolutely no accountability in the allocation of that budget,and the good ole system,no Matter who's in office.
There will never be a fair competive salary in comparison to the surrounding counties,even though Hinds is a larger county,and also being the Capitol as well.
So in closing, due to the cloak of Secrecy of a Public display of Salaries, Cash Contributions, Sexual Favors. And their Loyalty towards thiier Buddy's, Mcmillin, or Lewis.Big or Allegedly large Narcotics arrests are not a reflection of doing better, that's your job, and they could care less about drugs, They want Cash!
Mark this statement!
" We Didn't Do Better "
Interesting, but perhaps worthless, discussion going on here - Lewis vs. McMillan, ringside seat, bout at 11.
But have to really question one thing you said here, Curt. Unless you were referring to this particular thread:
"That's perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever read on here"
If you are talkikng about the everyday series of what is claimed to be dialogue, that's a pretty broad statement, including a LOT of dumb things that have been said.
(I agree, what you were referring to was pretty damn dumb, but that's a pretty high bar to climb as to the dumbest thing ever on JJ!)
Thank you 8:17.
Maybe the NEJxn habitual bitchers can answer your query. Were these types of big drug busts being made with this frequency prior to the Lewis Admin?
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. These are the type of douchebags that will write 6 paragraphs worth of 5-dollar words explaining why Sheriff Lewis shouldn't get credit for anything.
Nothing exists outside the northeast Jackson bubble. They will argue to the death and never concede any point that is inconsistent with their view of life inside the bubble. Being in the bubble makes one say dumb shit like the Sheriff has a mere "adjunct association" with the work of his deputies.
What you are witnessing are the last gasps of a nearly dead white "power" base that is under the illusion they still matter.
Comment 7:54, first you are wrong that the sheriff doesn't get the props for deputies work. This is not like a business man. If you knew how LE and paramilitary commands work you would know the difference in the two.
Second you are wrong because drug bust like the ones Tyrone has done did not happen under McMillin or at least not as fast as they have under Tyrone.
Third Tyrone is working in the city. Just because he may not be camping in North east Jackson does not mean he is not working the city.
Fourth Crowley did not step off a cliff. He was right because he knows how this works and you don't. He may be full of crap from where you sit because you look at this from a standpoint of not knowing LE. You lack knowledge in the field and it shows.
August 11, 2012 12:31 PM forgot to tell everyone that Crowley also walks on water.
Crowley what is your law enforcement experience?
Thank you 8:17.
Maybe the NEJxn habitual bitchers can answer your query. Were these types of big drug busts being made with this frequency prior to the Lewis Admin?
Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. These are the type of douchebags that will write 6 paragraphs worth of 5-dollar words explaining why Sheriff Lewis shouldn't get credit for anything.
Nothing exists outside the northeast Jackson bubble. They will argue to the death and never concede any point that is inconsistent with their view of life inside the bubble. Being in the bubble makes one say dumb shit like the Sheriff has a mere "adjunct association" with the work of his deputies.
What you are witnessing are the last gasps of a nearly dead white "power" base that is under the illusion they still matter.
Curt,
I'm a country redneck. How does that play into your argument?
I assume you disagree with my comment about the Sheriff's adjunct association with the "busts" you say that Lewis personally achieved. Perhaps your level of intellect doesn't quite comprehend what it means. Whatever the case, it is not an insult and is the association any person of command has with their staff in relation to the work unless they are directly involved.
Your blind hatred of, and overwhelming need to insult those who live in NE Jackson apparently must be a perfect excuse for your mental impotence.
What's with the constant use of logical fallacies in your statements? I say statements because you haven't offered anything that an adult would consider as an argument.
I never stated Sheriff Lewis shouldn't get credit for anything. I never said he shouldn't get credit for the busts you seem to live your ignorance through. I stated that one can't judge his effectiveness through those "busts". You might attempt to, but that's just a show of ignorance, nothing more.
Give Pearl PD credit for the Meth bust that was a huge assist in their part. Maybe he could have replaced the K9 unit if he wasn't buying new Tahoes ,furniture and ect.
All these Drug bust are are a direct result of a Huge dog and pony show in the beginning of his term, and then they'll fizzle out.
Your exactly correct 6:03, that was Pearl P.D. Whisper Stop! Hey Crowley, Stop being a One Sided Ass Kissing, Start admitting the Real Truth, and not Propaganda, You piece of shit name calling Hood Rat.
Try to make an attempt to have a Educated, Infomed, Debate/ Conversation and try to make an attempt in not using BS Words, e.g. I said, or I Meant this.You are, what your saying, and it shows.
I can tell, a lot a thes bloggers are in the Inside the Lair of L.E, especially The T-Rone lair,and our Statements are not made up ! There the Truth and you T-Rone Ass Kissing Dumbasses can't stand to be continuously exposed, and they know it.
The Negative news pieces, the Fired, the Demoted, and the overworked, and underpaid Deputy's that are still there, or are looking for other Jobs,. The Lied to Including his own friends, are all going to be the making of his own Demise.
So for the rest us who know the real truth, are actually Laughing uncontrollably, reading these Blogs who also somewhat know, or who also work in the inside, are going to be patiently waiting for Victor to come and take over convincingly and win 85% !
Now hear this Victor Mason will be the next Sheriff .
Is that the same Victor Mason that Sheriff McMillin unceremoniously fired?
Curt please answer 4:10
8:59, go f--k yourself. There is nothing one-sided in my analysis. Go back to the top and get someone to read you what I said in response to KF's question.
KF asked what parts of the report were right and wrong. I addressed 8 points that were contained in the report. Of those 8, I said 2 of them were fair criticisms of Sheriff McMillin, while 6 were not. Stated another way, my opinion was that 6 out of the 8 points were favorable to McMillin. Wow, that's really one-sided huh?
That's the problem with you disgruntled malcontents. You think that in order to respect McMillin, you have to shit on Lewis. And if you say anything good about Lewis, then you are disrespecting McMillin.
Oh and nice try with the cop-shop term "whisper stop" in your attempt to diminish the work of Hinds SO. You are so tacticool. I bet you wear 5.11 pants to Walmart too. Why don't you explain what a whisper stop is so folks that don't know can decide for themselves who did the heavy lifting on that stop?
Does that mean you have no law enforcement experience ?
Curt Crowley why will you not answer 4:10 and 1135?
Worked w/Crowley at Hinds SO under mac. He has experience.
Where did he work there?
Unfortunate Crowley, that's all you have, is to try to diminish a Legitamate term, thats actually used by all agency's, Local State and Fedreal, and again, to make a personal attack on stereotyping L.E, with 5-11's at walmart, ?..REALLY .
And Another thing, Im a proud, Intelligent AFRICAN AMERICAN, Not a Mcmillinite, who's been lied too, fired, and Demoted within the Agency.
I speak for all of the L.E. within the Agency, I Have over TWENTY YEARS CROWLEY, and how many do you have to be able to substantiate you're claims, and allegations.
WAITING !
We'd also like the years, and which Divisions?
Oh, THE RESEVES DON'T COUNT AS REAL L.E.O.
Please, Entertain me with some more lies.
I'll debunk that real quick.
1:27 learn to spell and use proper grammar. Your post gives me a headache.
TLewis is in for a rough ride. Got to fight the McMillin's on one side and the Victor pack-your-shit-and-get-out Mason's on the other side.
1:27, you will have no credibility until you develop proper language and spelling skills. You write like a jsu grad.
What does Victor getting fired by Mac mean . Saw him as a threat , he is a threat to Tyrone in 2015 as well .
The anonymous @ August 12, 2012 4:14 PM tells another anonymous that they have no credibility.
Rich. Very, very rich.
Hey 4:14, and 2:24, my sentence structure is correct as well as my spelling, and grammar, stop reaching for something that isn't there.
As a matter of Fact,I graduated from MC.
It figures we didn't get an answer from Crowley, on his L.E. experience. TRAGEDY.. Really the best is yet to come with this Admin, And Victor wasn't unceremoniously fired, He had enough INTEGRITY to stand up, and answer Mac's question as to, "Is anybody in this room planing on running against me for SHERIFF "
Victor stood up and answered the question honestly, and Mac said, " Get your shit and get the F@&$ out "
Wow, now there's a man of Integrity, and Pricipal. After Victor had been telling him for the last four years he was going to run, weather Mac ran, or not. How's that for Grooming Victor for all those years.
Sorry, it's not about minimizing Lewis, or not letting go of Mac, he's out, and it's over, and he's not comming back, but Lewis's track record out of the gate eight months into it, does not bode well him, his sidekicks, or whats to come.
At the end of the day Rember, their all POLITICIANS, and thier all going into it for thier own ill gotten Gains, But Lewis is in way over his head due to lack of Geniune Leadership skills he lacks,because of where he came from, who he surrounded himself with over at J.P.D. And who he brought with him to the S.O.
Sorry if the truth hurts.
Victor Masons is gona be your new Sheriff.
Victor "
Please let these jokers continue to post.
"my sentence structure is correct as well as my spelling, and grammar."
Legitamate = Legitimate
Thats = That's
agency's = agencies
Fedreal = Federal
lied too = lied to
you're = your
Latest post:
Pricipal = principle
weather = whether
comming = coming
Whats = what's
Rember = Remember
their = they're (2x)
Masons = Mason's
Being stupid is bad. Being stupid and not knowing it is painful.
I'm guessing Crowley's knowledge of law enforcement is from watching Adam-12.
It would be beneficial to identify the points made by Mr. Crowley that you think are wrong. Both sides personal attacks do not add anything to the debate.
Wading through the personal insults, I see Mr. Crowley made points about the opprep and the drug arrests. The latest comments have only opposed his remarks about one of the drug arrests but only said that Pearl Police assisted.
Respectfully, i would say that you would help more by saying why his points are incorrect, not campaigning for Mr. Mason in the next election that is 3 years away. From the outside his points are not in left field. Please state how they are.
It would be beneficial to identify the points made by Mr. Crowley that you think are wrong. Both sides personal attacks do not add anything to the debate.
You are a control freaky egomaniac.
8/12/12 - 10:26
as long as you are at it:
planing = planning
comming = coming
well him = him well
thier = their (when it was the
correct word, still wrong)
geniune = genuine
Masons = Mason
gona = gonna (if you're gonna use
it, at least spell the non- word correctly)
And that says nothing about the comma faults and capitalizations that make it impossible to read.
But, who's counting?
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