Jackson Jambalaya

Wow.

Sorry Curt. This is extremely disturbing. Thank goodness you had a gun and you are safe.

Next time shoot him. That is the ONLY way to take care of this in Jackson.

If only we could $oak the taxpayers to build a glittering new downtown arena that we can't afford all of these problems would magically go away.

You need a sign on your door that says Castle Law will be applied here.

It's certainly the perception of a troubling break-in.

If you do shoot him, make it count. Not much is worse than getting sued for damages by the thug that broke into your business.

Next thing we will hear is that you are being sued by the perp for mental anguish because you pulled a gun on him. I am sure some plaintiff lawyers will sign him up and do nothing for 8-9 months while you comtemplate a jury trial , not of your peers but it will be of his peers.

Then , you will decide its better to pay him afew thousand dollars to settle.

Happened to me,,,, not same circumstances but similarly the case had zero merit.

Sorry to hear that Curt. We've disagreed about Jackson on here in the past, but there will be no "told you so" or other gloating from these quarters. Glad you're safe.

JPD "detectives" are mostly officers with just a few years total law enforcement; they get "promoted" to detective with no training or mentors to give OJT.

I doubt JPD is an organization that can be fixed.

Next time pull the trigger...He will probably go out tonight and break in somewhere else...

11:44 - Any lawyer willing to represent a plaintiff under those circumstances should be shot as well. If I were on a jury I'd say the castle law applies to the legal scum willing to try to steal your money in the courts! I guess this is why I don't get called for jury duty in Hinds County!

On Tuesday, the Miss. Court of Appeals reversed a case where the trial court failed to give the castle law instruction requested by the defendant. I believe that's the first such case.

what time of evening? and what kind of gun did you use?
i had an office in that building 7-8 yrs ago, had several things occur: a transient who would come in during business hours, go to a public restroom, climb through the drop ceiling and come out after hours to scrounge around. some evidence he had a place to sleep up there.

also had a transvestite who wd come in middle of day up teh back stairs and look for things to steal- anything. made mistake of walking into an office with some kind of feds in there, they held him/her. doubt either was porsecuted though.
and yes, i am completely out of hinds now.

"Last night an asshole broke into my office"
"there bastard was standing"
"they are badasses-definitely not to be fucked with"
"They tuned his ass up and took him to jail"
"They don’t need a goddamn affidavit"
"What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?"

I'm just curious, what the hell was the word was so offensive that you had to censor it?

Give 'em hell Curt. Glad to hear you are unhurt.

Jackassery doesn't live here anymore.

3:24
it might have been non PC and referred to a criminals race. Obviously the bastard was not a Rankin County redneck.

Glad you are not hurt. Here's the drill. You need a gun and a knife, or two guns, one unloaded. Toss the Jacksonian the knife or the unloaded gun. When he catches it, shoot him. Dead.

Glad you're ok and so sorry this happened.

Thanks for the kind comments.

JPD has now reversed course and claims to have the suspect in custody. The morning after this happened, the detective called and asked me to sign an affidavit so perp could be arrested. I told him the officers arrested him the night before. Detective said they released him b/c there was no affidavit. I went off. We had a 10 minute conversation about why he was released. I checked Hinds SO inmate search and verified he was not in Raymond.

He asked me to come by and sign an addidavit this morning, so a warrant could be issued and the perp could be rearrested. I went to the office this morning and was told to return after 3pm.

Now (after reporters start calling headquarters), JPD claims to have had the guy in custody after all.

Of course, I get all this information from a reporter, and not from JPD.

I'm getting a bit frustrated.

Detective huh? Bullshit. No wonder JPD is thought of as incompetent. Are you saying they can't find a sob hiding in plain sight in their custody? And I'm supposed to beleive they could find any of my stuff that was stolen? Or who commited FILL IN THE BLANK against me? Yeah, JPD's Finest on Duty. To Serve and Protect. Did I say bullshit yet?

P.S. I'm really glad you are okay. Just one question though: The "tuneup" you spoke of, you really okay with that if it is your client?

Defendants are often released overnight under the "bond schedule" that allows a defendant to get out on bond without ever seeing a judge (sometimes before 8 a.m). If the defendant can post a pre-determined bond amount for a listed offense, then he is released without ever seeing a judge. Often the charge is listed as a lesser offense (keeps crime rates lower) and the defendant's criminal history is not checked. Sometimes defendants even get away with giving false names. Getting rid of this practice would go a long way towards slowing down crime by at least making arrestees sit in detention long enough for a judge to decide whether they get out or not. The current system only breeds contempt for the system from both criminals and victims. (On the other hand, it makes a lot of money for those in the bail bonding business.)

Curt,

Simma Down Now! Simma Down....Simma
!

What a joke. You have a criminal dead to rights. And they still can't figure it out. Or, are they inundated with BS.

It is not Jackson, it is the f-ed up State laws focused on criminalizing stupid (civil) behavior and not letting our LEO's focus on crime.

This state has created a myriad of criminal laws that are civil issues. When we finally figure out how to stop the "legal process" bastardized by those in positions of ability and influence to do so; only then will we find the LEO's are freed up from the BS.

I cite the NAACP meeting of recent where Othor, presiding, claimed, "what laws need to be passed". Response, "we have enough."

wonder what if our mayor hadn't been so intimidated by Robert Johnson his first time around we would have had a better hold on crime, instead of all that dead time on "nationwide searches" to find "BC" in our own back y yard...

There are many great, caring officers working for JPD. A big part of the problem is that one hand does not know what the other is doing. This is just an outside observation but I believe that communication within JPD sucks. The Department just does not function well as a "team". It's very likely that all the confusion that Curt was subjected to was just that, a lack of communication between the arresting officers, the detective, and detention. Now, how to fix it is a good question. Strong leadership from the top down would be a good start.

210pm, it was around 1130pm when it happened. That night I was carrying a Springfield xd40 (law enforcement model) 12+1. Couldn't have had a better weapon for that situation, IMO.

12 3" magnum gauge riot gun with #1 buck. Just saying.

Ok, 3" mag 12 gauge is how I thought that. Apparently my fingers had a different opinion of how it should come out.

Wapt says the burglar was armed with a spoon??

@6:45 - If what you say is true (and I have no reason to say otherwise), then it sounds like a possible solution is for some group (MADD or a similar type group) to hire someone to physically be present when the perp arrives at the jail and watch/participate in this process on behalf of the victim....videotape the entire process. This would shed light on the actual problem, identify those making money from this practice, and go a long way to solving another problem.

Just to visit this one more time:

Mr. Crowley, Jackson is "officially broken" after YOU'VE been a crime victim?

Who was it who said, "A liberal is a conservative who hasn't yet been mugged"?

Castle Doctrine question. If I pull a gun and attempt to hold the suspect for the police and the suspect attempts to flee, am I liable for his injuries? I know, shoot him and drag him back inside, but how do I explain a fatal bullet wound that entered his back and exited his front? Not sure how clear the Castle Doctrine is on shooting suspects that clearly are fleeing and no longer present a threat.

i am a .45 man, but hear great things about .40s.

shotgun can be bulky in close quarters...

going to clean some of my guns this fine labor day --

Since when did JJ become so vulgar? Did you have to print the potty-mouth lawyer verbatim? Come on.

Glad you posted this. Now I know an attorney that I won't use, if he is so dumb as to have to resort to this language.

I'm glad you are OK Curt.

Did your building not have a security system to alert you to unauthorized entry? Are the offices inside not locked and secured? I assume there was significant damage to your building.

I'm glad for JPD response. From getting to know JPD officers in working on making our neighborhoods safer, they seem frustrated with the judicial system. They claim to catch the criminals only to see them back on the street faster than they can do the paperwork.

Aren't you part of the judicial system? Why aren't the lawyers of this community actively trying to clean it up? Don't you folks have some vehicles to study and make recommendations through CLE programs and the Bar?

I am truly sorry this happened to you, Curt, and your frustration is justified. But, I would wish you to focus on prevention and problem solving. I'm sure you will when you recover from the trauma.

1221am: The guy had a spoon in his hand. The spoon is used by "amateur locksmiths" to unlock certain types of doors. That's what he used to gain access to the building.

Jkev, I think you make a fair point, but the "officially broken" part was based upon what happened after patrol took the suspect to jail. It had nothing to do with the fact that I was the victim of a crime.

I expect to be the intended victim of a crime. I would never reach the assessment that Jackson was broken based merely on the actions of one scumbag.

@ 8:59am -- Here we have a gentleman who was subjected to an attempted robbery in his law office on the 8th floor of a building in downtown Jackson while working at 11:30 pm, and your concern is the language that he used to describe the traumatic incident and his frustration in what I'm assuming was meant to be a private email to one of his clients? Not only that, but you go so far as to suggest that he is not fit to represent your holiness because he used foul language under these circumstances?

People like you - who absolutely miss the point in everything due to a misplaced focus on sensitivity regardless of the situation - are equally as toxic to the City of Jackson as the inept JPD. The problem at issue here is the crime and the ineptitude of those paid to prevent it; not Mr. Crowley's language. Your sanctimonious, self-righteous nonsense has no place in this forum. Please take it elsewhere.

when i was there, the owner, an indian chap, would not put a dime toward keeping the invading hordes at bay.

859am, I sent that email just hours after coming within a hair of killing a man standing 10 feet away, and holding him for the police. And it was kinda tense because it wasn't a simple matter of just holding until the wagon got there. Apparently, you have never found yourself in that position.

I say all this to make this point: When I wrote that email, there was a great deal of stress and adrenaline still flowing. And throw in the anger and frustration of dealing with HQ.

Now, if my words were a bit too strong considering the circumstances, then you have my sincerest apologies. However, if you are so lacking in empathy that you can't understand this, or so frivolous in thought that the only thing you take away from this story is that I used profanity, then you're probably not someone we could assist in the first place.

Curt - Re: Profanity use under these circumstances - 8:59 is a fucking asshole douchbag.

I hope I'm not being too amibiguous for him/her.

Glad you made it, and thanks for updating us on the sad state of JPD. There are great office spaces suitable for a law office in Madison and Rankin County. I'm not sayin'; I'm just sayin.......

It's spelled "douchebag". If you're going to use it, at least spell it correctly,douchebag.

For all this 'shoot him' stuff,
just my opinion, ( and i am no softy) If the man had no weapon and was not attempting to
attack, I think it is not the right thing to kill him.

If he is surprised and you hold him at gunpoint and he runs away, I think it is not something you would want to live with to shoot the man in the back.

If he is surprised and you hold him at gunpoint and he runs away, I think it is not something you would want to live with to shoot the man in the back.

Correct.

Shoot him in the butt.

Several times.

@8:06AM - Sounds like a job for a good reporter - Cheryl Lassiter perhaps?

My grandmother (who is 87) and a bus load of little old ladies that came to Jackson for a church singing, were held at gun point and robbed in the parking lot in front of the King Buffet on County Line - during the day time. The police were called and reports made. Several days later, my grandmother called to check on the investigation and the officer said the file did not exist. That was the last they heard from anyone on the matter. Great job Jackson PD! Now my grandmother is scared to come to Jackson to the doctor or to visit my family.

if im not mistaken king buffet is in ridgeland...

King buffet is on the Jackson side of County Line.

No its actually on the Jackson - Hinds County side of "county line" --- get it ... the county line splits the counties ... Hinds from Madison. Are you an idiot!

THANK GOD that man didnt have concealed spork!

Well, look kids...this is the thing...It is about protecting yourself AND your business and/or home. If you are surprised by someone breaking in, the best thing to do is to be ready to shoot. It shouldn't be YOUR fault because THEY are the criminals...not you. I don't care if he was armed with a spork, a grenade or a freaking nerf water gun. The fact is that some punk broke in on the attempt to commit a crime. Something has to wake these thugs up. When you decide to cross over the line and enter someone ELSE's business or home then you should pay the
consequence...I only hope thugs will think twice about entering Curt's office again.
And as for the language....are you kidding me??? Seriously...come on...If you cannot handle a few "f bombs" then you not only need a little bit of some thicker skin, but a new blog to view. Do not get on here WITHOUT POSTING YOUR REAL NAME and complain about language. That is just petty.
Don't hollier than thou chastise someone for their language...especially when they have been a victim of something like this.

Rebekah, one should always be prepared for the worst case scenario, but the wisest course is to take measures to prevent " the worst case".
Curt, if your landlord won't take sensible, basic security measures, then find a new landlord.
That this guy could break into any downtown building with a spoon tells me that the landlords are dumber than the criminals.

11:53- Agreed!

So, at what point do good, law abiding Jacksonians wake the F___ up and leave this decaying shit hole? The JPD has been a major F___ Up since Ditto hired Wilson.

7:22 the western US would still be territory if all people had your attitude. Texas would be in Mexico. And, the big cities in this country would all be ghost towns especially Chicago where everyone would have left during the Capone era.
You cut and run, buddy. Me, I've watched this suburban flight elsewhere and I know how this story ends.

A whole heap of our big cities ARE effectively ghost towns.

So, the potty mouthed lawyer who delights in attacking non-Jacktowners for speaking the truth about the place, now finds himself in dire straights. Is this the same guy who just last week rattled on about some place in North Dakota being as relevant as Jacktown to those who don't live in the city?

So, in the midst of cleaning out your drawers and trying to calm down from being invaded, you go to a keyboard and crank off a vulgar email to the operator of this site? As if dookey in your shorts is reason to go 'George Carlin' on us.

Thanks for posting a perfect illustration of 'What Not To Do If Accosted By A Burglar'.

Two pieces of advice you won't take:

1) Don't tote a firearm if you're not prepared to use it.

2) Don't type out an email if you're still shakin' two hours after the cops leave. I thought lawyers had nerves of steal (spelled correctly).

The Feds need to take over JPD . Jackson is the capitol city . I say make Madison the capital.

Shadowfax, I am prepared to use a firearm. The reason I did not shoot in this case is because I have the training, experience and maturity to know when to use deadly force, and when not to. As to my ability to handle myself in this type of situation, the results speak for themselves: the bad guy went to jail and the good guys are Code 4.

Was it scary? Yes. Did my hands shake after it was over? Of course, it's called adrenaline.

Shadowfax is one of these keyboard warriors that reads about deadly force situations involving other people, and dreams of all the heroic badassery he would have performed if it had been him in that situation.

You see, Shadowfax's comment proves that he has never been in a situation where deadly force was an issue. Further, it proves he is completely and utterly clueless on the topic. But, as usual, that's Shadowfax.

Thanks for posting a perfect illustration of "Why People Who Think You Just Open The Door And Start Blasting Should Not Have Firearms."

I say move it back to Washington, MS just north of Natchez. Let Alcorn manage it.

Nice response, Crowley. And, I mean that sincerely.