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Vote for best college football coach since Bear Bryant's time. Jimmy Johnson got my vote. Won't have the most wins obviously but when he was at Miami, he created teams that destroyed opponents, especially top-ranked ones as Barry Switzer and Bobby Bowden can verify. Vote early and often.

16 comments:

QB said...

L. Miles?

Anonymous said...

Where's Vince Dooley?

If Saban is on there, you have to include Mack Brown too. They both have a National Title, and are playing for another one this year.

It's a difficult choice.

My top 3 would probably be

Bowden
Osborne
Johnson

Bowden should get a ton of credit for building that program, regardless of any cheating that went on there.

Every coach on there cheated, so you can't really knock any specific coach for that.

Anonymous said...

Bob Stoops?

Anonymous said...

chris peterson. no one has ever done so much with so little.

stilettoGOP said...

This is easy. NICK. SABAN.

And because he's hot.

Anonymous said...

If Saban doesn't win the national championship, will you still say that?

He's been anything but dominant, if you look at each of his seasons individually.

He's really good, but not great, yet..

Kingfish said...

Johnson to me is the best one of them all. A NC and two Super Bowls. hard to beat. I don't equate best with total number of wins either. No one will convince me Bowden is a better coach than Bear for example. Bowden was probably the first coach, along with Schnellenberger, to realize the state of Florida's vast recruiting potential on the field. Johnson was a better coach then Bowden. The numbers do speak for themselves in his case. Both had top teams and Johnson beat him. Destroyed him one time when FSU was ranked number one, 31-0.

As for Saban, well, I would say he is one of the best ones in the 2000's. Going 8-0 twice in the SEC is no small feat, not to menation two undefeated regular seasons back to back in the SEC. Don't even tell me Mack Brown has it that tough in the Big 12. Defenses in Big 12 are nothing like the SEC as Brown damn near found out Saturday night when that was about the first time all year he faced a scheme you see in the SEC.

Anonymous said...

Texas defense aint to shabby either: http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/statsTeam

Kingfish said...

Am surprised SOS doesn't get more votes.

Anonymous said...

If you count out Mack Brown from the discussion because the Big 12 is more of an offensive scoring conference, then why not just make it all about the Southeast? It's not like Miami was playing a bunch of tough defenses when Johnson was there.

You have to include Stoops and Brown, if Saban is on the list. It really makes no sense to leave them off.

Hookah said...

I think it's a clear tie between Meyer and Saban but since I'm a Bama fan I'm voting for Saban.

I would 86 Paterno and Bowden both are crusty figureheads that share responsibility for both building and tearing down their programs.

It's been a long time since either of the two have REALLY called the shots.

Paterno's son and Galen Hall run the offense at Penn State Along with Tom Bradley's defensive schemes.

FSU has belonged to Jimbo Fisher for quite sometime now and with Bowden FINALLY out of the way he could bring the convicts back on top of the Almost Competitive Conference next season. The same weak ass conference Miami's convicts play in but not as weak as the Fudge PAC 10 (sorry Pete Carroll).

Spurrier's a Cock,Osborne gets a DQ since most of his career was happening during Bear Bryant's, Tressel is okay but there's that little Buckeye stat where they've never beat an SEC team in a bowl game.

So yeah that being said--I voted for SABAN. Roll Tide Roll!

Kingfish said...

You need to check Miami's schedule when JJ was there. They played Notre Dame, SWC Champ Arkansas, Florida, FSU, top ranked Oklahoma, Nebraska, bowl bound South Carolina, Michigan at Michigan, Wisconsin, SEC CHamp LSU, Didn't see too many AA schools on their schedule.

Hookah said...

Johnson dumped a lot of big games when he was getting those wins including a couple of national championships.

Also, this is before BCS and computer rankings so Miami never got to play other number one teams in those undefeated seasons they were supposedly dominating.

Johnson never went to another COLLEGE team after Miami to see if he could build a program up.

Meyer and Saban have both built championship teams, left their respective programs and built championship teams at other universities.

Put Johnson in the NFL today with the salary cap and see if he can New York Yankee his way into a Super Bowl--I doubt that happens.

He's a good coach and I have much respect for his record but I think the game has changed substantially from his days as a head coach.

Kingfish said...

Shows how little you know about Johnson's teams. They played tougher schedules than the Texas's, Nebraskas, and OU's back then. He beat several number ones and usually destroyed them. I do mean destroy. LSU won the SEC in 87. Miami came to town and completely annihlated the Tigers. It was like 44-3 or something like that.

As for Johnson's techniques not working today, who exactly do you think introduced the concept of speed at every position at the college level that Meyer and Saban use so much? Who do you think movded LB's up to DE's and Safeties up to LB's? He ran Marino's offense at Miami. Think that wasn't a pretty sophisticated offense? Please.

Anonymous said...

johnson owes much to schnellenberger. he took a perennial doormat (think temple) and coined the phrase any one any time anywhere (long before the buzzards). got killed for a few years by ND, USC and the like then started building a dynasty. johnson stepped into that.

Hookah said...

Kingfish are you on record saying LSU sucks.

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