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Those aren't exactly unbiased sources.

Be sure to also read Adam Lynch's cover story about the myths and realities of undocumented immigration.

posted by ladd on 12/10/08 at 09:57 PM

The third group Brittanicus lists under "Read the facts at...," American Patrol (americanpatrol.com), is identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's operated by Glenn Spencer, whose, uhm, scholarship is somewhat dubious. From the SPLC page:

"Sometimes, Spencer's racial paranoia seems to get the better of him. One night in 2003, thinking he was hearing noises outside his Sierra Vista, Ariz., home, he grabbed a gun and started shooting into the dark. He managed to hit a neighbor's garage, among other things, and was charged with four felonies. But charges like that have a habit of going away in Southeastern Arizona. In Spencer's case, his felony charges were reduced to one misdemeanor. He was fined $2,500 and given a year's probation. His lease was also terminated and he was forced to move away, taking up residence in a trailer in unincorporated Cochise County."

The 37 million figure could also be described as a shot in the dark. Most credible estimates, based on actual data, place the number at 11 to 15 million.

posted by Tom Head on 12/11/08 at 03:06 AM

"We need the SAVE ACT and E-verify used for every business and NOT Amnesty.

E-verify does not discriminate against RACE, Religion, SEX or physically capability only your Citizenship and your LEGAL right to be and work in United States. If we can stop Predatory business owners from hiring then the Illegal Aliens will not Stay and return to their native Countries.

This ISSUE is not about RACE, but Governments Federal/State/LOCAL not doing their jobs, because big and small business owners want cheap workers and no labor laws to bother with. Its called GREED!

The only RACISTS are the single RACE agenda GROUPS like La RAZA, Mecha, Aztlan and ETC....Whose main goal is take our Western States back to Mexico.

Both Liberals and Conservatives need to take some pride in our Country and protect it from all invading nations citizens and corporate GREED.


Please, NO IMMIGRANT BASHING or HATE Crimes. HATE only feeds the single RACE agenda groups for Open Borders and the Media."

posted by HernandezUSA on 12/11/08 at 09:55 AM

Thanks, Tom. Here in Mississippi, we've learned (or should have) that we have to be careful where we get our "facts."

posted by ladd on 12/11/08 at 10:01 AM

Very Well Stated !!!!!

Thank you for being a proud and thoughtful American.

posted by HernandezUSA on 12/11/08 at 01:20 PM

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Here in Georgia, we passed the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act aimed at protecting Americans from the organized crime of illegal immigration and illegal employment in 2006.

We heard the same mindless, race-baiting howls of opposition that Mississippi citizens are hearing and reading on your SB 2988.

The well-funded illegal alien/open borders lobby, lacking the rule of law, the support of the majority of the American people or any basis in logic or common sense has been spewing the same un-American hate-speech for generations.

You can't envy the job of convincing the public that we need more "willing workers" when each day's headlines bring more and worse news about record levels of unemployment and government budget cuts for Americans.

Early in the last century, before many labor leaders turned against the American worker, Samuel Gompers, the founder of the American Federation of Labor had this to say about legislation intended to control immigration: "Every effort to enact immigration legislation must expect to meet a number of hostile forces and, in particular, two hostile forces of considerable strength. One of these is composed of corporation employers who desire to employ physical strength at the lowest possible wage and who prefer a rapidly revolving labor supply at low wages to a regular supply of American wage earners at fair wages. The other is composed of racial groups in the United States who oppose all restrictive legislation because they want the doors left open for an influx of their countrymen regardless of the menace to the people of their adopted country."

Gompers failed to mention willing editorial writers. Memo to yours: When it comes to illegal immigration, there is no such thing as “cheap labor”. It is taxpayer subsidized labor and most illegals would qualify for a rebate if they were to file a tax return with their stolen ID.

Is “illegal” some new race of people?

And for your reporter: “Immigrants”, by federal definition, join the American family lawfully. The most shameless anti-immigrant smear possible is to participate in the attempt to blur the line between them and what the government calls “illegal aliens” who howl “racism” at any suggestion that they not be allowed to choose which American laws apply to them.

An easy way to discern the difference: immigrants do not require amnesty.

The obvious truth being proven here and literally everywhere immigration law is applied is that enforcement works. As a direct result of our legislation, illegal aliens are migrating out of Georgia for more hospitable locals. The effect is that wages and benefits go up and public benefits go to the Americans for whom they are intended.

How radical and extreme ehh?

The new Mississippi law brings your state more inline with the way immigration and employment is enforced to our south. Bill Chandler, the shameless race-hustler who is apparently the local far left open borders organizer there hopes that you won’t realize that Mexico uses troops to secure its borders and has an enthusiastic and efficient enforcement system to deport any illegal alien who makes it into that country – most of whom happen to be Hispanic.

“Ethnic cleansing” indeed.

Brave Border Patrol Agents are risking their lives to protect our borders. The concept that we should reward those who escape apprehension is sickening beyond description.

Amnesty was proven a clear failure more than twenty years ago. There are two possible solutions to the illegal immigration threat remaining: law enforcement or officially open borders.

All concerned need to pick a side.

The Free Press’ editorial writer, Bill Chandler and Frank Curiel have.

Yuck.

D.A. King

Marietta, Ga.


King is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society, which is opposed to illegal immigration. He lobbied in favor of the Georgia Security and Immigration Compliance Act. On the Web: http://www.TheDustinInmanSociety.org

posted by American worker on 12/16/08 at 08:18 PM

An easy way to discern the difference: immigrants do not require amnesty.

An argument, that, of course, ignores the fact that someone has to decide WHO is illegal and who isn't.

Our current quota system for determining who is eligible for "legal" immigration and who isn't simply doesn't reflect reality here in the North American Free Trade Zone.

That's why people from John McCain to George Bush to John Kerry and Barack Obama has sought to find common ground, common language and common sense for the problem of illegal immigration, undocumented workers and, particularly, Latino immigrants who've been in the U.S. for many years as productive citizens.

All concerned need to pick a side.

No, they don't. IMHO, all concerned need to approach the issue with an open heart, an open mind, and the sense that as a country we can do more than just "lobby" and "fight." We can actually solve problems.

posted by itodd on 12/16/08 at 08:50 PM

*That's why people from John McCain to George Bush to John Kerry and Barack Obama has sought to find common ground, common language and common sense for the problem of illegal immigration, undocumented workers and, particularly, Latino immigrants who've been in the U.S. for many years as productive citizens*.

Nice try - but illegal aliens are NOT U.S. citizens. Your argument would be much more honest if you would just admit that you regard borders and immigration laws as human rights violations.

Just say it: we need to all be citizens of the planet and forget about those old fashioned nations!

Mexico and every other nation decide "who is illegal". For US that would be anyone who enters without permission and is in excess of the more than one million real immigrants we take in each year. Still stuck on the we need more workers nonsense ehh?

No reason to reply to what I am sure will be coming: mindless assurances that we need more people in the United States with zero basis in reality for that silly argument.

But it sure beats finding the courage to defend your country ehh?

PS...illegals have documents - stolen from Americans.
Too funny and revealing that the JFP declined to publish my response...but the far left practices "less is more" when it comes to poking holes in the "everyone who doesn't agree with us is obviously a cold hearted racist" response.

Don't look now, but illegals are leaving Mississippi because some of your legislators do have courage.

posted by American worker on 12/17/08 at 09:14 AM

HernandezUSA, it is against our user policy to repeat the same post over and over again. That is considered trolling. Your duplicate comment has been deleted.

American worker, we are not interested in publishing pieces by people from other states who do Web sites pushing the idea that immigrants are trying to "colonize" the United States, and other scare tactics. For the record, I would not have provided a forum for the popular "blacks should go back to Africa" meme of the 1960s, either. This is not a hate site or one for fringe ideas; you have your own; please exercise your right to post anything you want on it.

It also against our policy to keep re-registering under different names once you've been suspended for violating our user agreement. Please move on.

posted by ladd on 12/17/08 at 10:33 AM

Your argument would be much more honest if you would just admit that you regard borders and immigration laws as human rights violations.


This is the kind of statement that makes the anonymous anti-illegals trolls look really, really goody. People with these ideas are so paranoid that they think that anyone who doesn't believe that Mexicans are trying to "colonize" must, in turn, not believe in borders. It's this kind of binary us-v.-them thinking that has our country in such a mess right now.

The issue is not that everyone is a "cold, hard racist" who believes in a good immigration policy. Of course, that's not true. What is sad is that there are many racists who are the loudest in the debate and get people to go along with their extreme ideas with scare tactics and bad information. This is not a site where that information will be passed along as propaganda. If you're not here to have an intelligent conversation about what immigration policy should be in this country—and if you can't comprehend why just saying something is illegal in turn justifies current policy rather than discussing what "illegal" should mean—you don't belong here.

posted by ladd on 12/17/08 at 10:58 AM

Not in the least surprised. That is, after all, what propagandists do.

It looks like Diva Ladd pulled that right out of the Communist playbook by deleting the comments which by the way, is standard operating procedure at the JFP. She was sneering about intelligent commentary—does she actually read the posts people put on her website? My point here is that this cat smoke checked her and her ace reporter by presenting the facts it didn’t meet their far left, anti-American, your racist if you don’t believe anything I say about illegal aliens agenda thus it found it s way down the old memory tube and out of existence.