If you’ve already given up on Jackson, this episode may not be for you. Or maybe it’s exactly for you.
This week on the Empower Podcast, Grant Callen sits down with urban strategist Josh McManus, who looks a little like a farmer in brown overalls and talks a little like a philosopher, but has spent decades helping cities like Chattanooga, Detroit, Cleveland, and New Orleans rethink their future and reverse decline. Now he’s spending time in Jackson, and somehow, despite everything, he’s wildly optimistic about its future.
In this conversation, Josh explains why Jackson’s struggles are not unique, why so many American cities hollowed out over the last 70 years, and why he believes the key to revival is restoring what he calls “the right to rise,” the belief that ordinary people can build a better life where they are.
We also talk about why cities fail when they operate from a mindset of scarcity, why thriving cities embrace abundance instead, and why Mississippi’s capital city still has cultural, economic, and strategic assets most people overlook.
Along the way, we discuss the redevelopment of the former Chastain Middle School campus on Northside Drive, the future of neighborhood revitalization, and why Josh believes Jackson could become one of America’s great comeback stories.
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KF, did you see the WLBT article claiming Jackson proper real estate up 32% from last year? https://www.wlbt.com/2026/05/09/jackson-home-values-surge-32-metro-real-estate-market-shifts-new-opportunities-sellers-buyers/
Jackson come back???? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Just by looking at the cities he has helped does not put a lot of hope for Jackson.
i was hoping for a mayflower recipe
Jackson has one major advantage which could be the asset that saves it in the future: location. If you were scouting locations around the south to start a city, Jackson sits on a prime spot in the middle of everything. Location is always important. Judging by the present trend of population decrease, much of Jackson WILL be starting from scratch in the foreseeable future. Worthless today, prime real estate tomorrow. It's possible.
We can hope.
Thanks for sharing!
In a city where your main revenue is parking and water........you would think they would actually collect that money. They haven't in 16 years. Yes. These are facts.
Zillow reports that my property in Fondren has increased 8k in the last14 months. Suck it, haters.
This city still has a lot going for it. University of Mississippi Medical Center is one of the biggest medical hubs in the state. Jackson State University and the other colleges keep bringing in young talent. We sit smack dab in the middle of the state, and the Jackson metro still has more than 600,000 people. That’s a pretty stout foundation if folks are willing to build on it.
But there are four things we need to be honest about.
**1. Jackson is fixable.**
This isn’t some hopeless case. Cities all over this country have taken their lumps and come back stronger. Jackson can too.
**2. Mississippi’s reputation is a real problem.**
Whether we like it or not, a lot of folks outside this state still think Mississippi is stuck in 1962. That makes it harder to recruit businesses, professionals, and families.
**3. Too many people have thrown up their hands.**
Complaining is easy. Rolling up your sleeves is harder. Jackson won’t turn around until more people decide it’s worth the effort.
**4. We’ve got to stop bleeding people.**
If our best and brightest keep packing up for Dallas, Atlanta, and Nashville, we’re trying to fill a bucket with a hole in the bottom.
That’s the plain truth. Jackson still has good bones, good people, and plenty of potential. But potential is like a tractor parked in the barn. It won’t do a lick of work until somebody turns the key and puts it in gear.
Don’t confuse stabilization with recovery. Drive through west and south Jackson and then give us an update.
That is based on inflation, not real appreciation. Dream on.
Fact Jackson is one of Americas most dangerous cities Fact Jackson schools suck fact JPD isn’t very good at solving crime fact hinds county judges are soft on crime. At best Jackson MAY stop the bleeding at best but NEVER recover
How much is this grift costing? Nothing will change until the culture changes, and that will take a generation or more.
You can bounce back when 2 or 3 of the dozen variables that affect a city's growth have skewed negative. It takes time, intense effort and luck, and usually fails, but it's not impossible. It's worth a shot.
But with Jackson, ALL the variables conspire against it. It's in a poor state. That poor state is run by Republicans who associate cities with black people and Democrats, and thus are not inclined to help. The most basic infrastructure is not just dilapidated, it's crumbling. It literally does not work. The national perception is now in Flint, Michigan territory thanks to the water crisis. The layout actively undercuts redevelopment, as endless trash sprawl separates the few cores that might be worth redeveloping from any currently non-impoverished area. There are no strong anchor institutions like a (good) university or physical attraction (e.g., riverfront). Better housing is very cheap in the suburbs, which have far better schools. The rest of the southeast region is growing rapidly, so young people can move to a much better place and still come home to see the family over a weekend, etc.
I absolutely agree young people should fight for a better southeast, maybe even a better Mississippi (although that's something of a longshot). But sticking around and fighting for Jackson specifically is just a dumb allocation of your limited time on this planet.
If you are under 30, you owe it to yourself and your children to try to get out.
Part of any "Right to Rise" has to be parents able to access quality schools that don't teach socialism and such that they aren't getting taxed twice. Some form of parent directed school choice with State dollars is likely the biggest component of fixing Jackson along with infrastructure and police.
This is a great episode. There is one thing that I think people are forgetting. Jackson is probably one of the only major cities in America that has a dedicated state law enforcement agency inside of an improvement district. Capitol PD has changed the game. The CCID should be lit up with investment. Even with a liberal DA and liberal judges, the CCID now has some of the best law enforcement possible. Not many other cities with the same DA and Judge issues have this. The state needs to pony up and make them the highest paid officers in Mississippi. They also need to expand north to County Line.
Fondren and Belhaven are the catalyst. Unbelievably beautiful homes, undeniably southern, fantastic food options, and 4 major hospitals sit right in the middle of them. The more restaurants, high end apartments, hotels, entertainment options that open there, the better. Jackson has all the problems you could imagine, but let's not forget that it is a tiny major city comparatively speaking, and any decent inflow of people can change it for the better. I am bullish on Jackson. Let's make the Museum Trail rival the Beltline in Atlanta. Young people that love Mississippi don't really want to leave, but they don't want to live in Jackson. Make it an exciting new urban area centered around recreation and great food and they will have reason to stay. The jobs will come when the demand to live here comes. We should have boardwalks and trails all throughout the Pearl River floodplain. We don't even need (or want) some crazy bar scene. Let's just focus on having the most outdoor activities possible and fill the vacancies downtown.
I remember those old white ladies that used to have “Pray for Jackson “ bumper stickers . Just look at what they did to Jackson. Gods punishment has reigned down.
I know way more about Jackson and its future than he does.
My advice: Get out NOW while you CAN.
My gosh there are so many sky is falling negative assholes on this blog. Can y’all be somewhat optimistic? And to the lady saying you’d waste your time on earth fighting for Mississippi & Jackson, what do you want people to do then? Just be complete consumers that produce nothing for society or their community? Jackson is 100% worth fighting for and it is a crying shame how many people have tapped out around here. Every other old city in the south has ferals living in it and sky high homicide rates, yet their people still take pride in their town and never gave up. All you assholes that ran away 30 years ago and are so proud of it ARE THE REASON that Jackson’s in bad shape. Maybe if the weenies stuck around a little longer there would have never been a Chokwe Sr. or Yarber or Chokwe Jr.. Voting matters and less than 20k people vote in Jackson’s mayoral elections. That can be overcome so very easy with any inflow of population. We can, and we will take back Jackson, our state’s capital and largest city. Have some pride dammit!!!
Two sets of people under every post about Jackson regardless of the facts or commentary presented: One set hopes Jackson will get better (for everyone's benefit) and the other set hopes Jackson will never get better (probably racial reasons)
You would have to depopulate the city and replace them with responsible, hard working, civic minded individuals who are neither looking for a handout, or looking to prey on the weak and elderly.
@1:37
You are right; young people don't want to live in Jackson.
All we have to do is get people to stop focusing on race and come together for the same goal. Unfortunately, too many are unwilling to do that.
I have not once regretted leaving Jackson almost 30 years ago. I never once had any kind of problems with my water. Low crime and I feel safe. Excellent law schools,fire department and LEO. Lower taxes and my home has increased in value. Moving out of Jackson was an excellent move for me.
1:37- have you traveled to west and south Jackson lately? The new city administration is doing great with ideas for downtown, Fondren, northeast Jackson but not a word about west or south Jackson. Evidently they know its going to be a heavy & maybe impossible lift.
@2:30
You failed to mention a third set of People-- REALISTC ones.
Playing the race card?????
The folks that run the city are not business friendly at all. Profit has somehow become a bad word. Some of these folks feel like in order to make money you have to steal it from someone.
It is not the people who left Jackson that is the problem. The problem is the people who stayed in Jackson. Most of the honest hard working people got tired of having the crooked politicians and the crooked people in the city running everything. The reason there is so few people in Jackson voting on the mayor election is a good percentage of people left in Jackson are not allowed to vote. No matter what Jackson does the city will continue to be a dump until the crooks, thieves, murders, and dishonest politicians are not running things.
People who say Jackson will NEVER do this, or NEVER do that, or it will NEVER recover are either so full of hate or have no conception of time and history. What they don't realize is that Jackson's fate depends on people. Same with Madison, Clinton, Pearl, Brandon, and wherever. Jackson changed, or more likely the people of Jackson changed. Madison can change too. So can Clinton, Pearl, Brandon and the rest. In years to come they could be just like Jackson. It depends on the will and movement of the people. All can change for the better or the worse. It's happened before so stop this NEVER bulls..t.
Exactly, 12:51! ...that, and real estate SPECULATION on the part of out-of-state entities (something Donald may actually do something about - but we'll see...). Speculation is driving-up prices all over - even in places where price increases make no sense (like in Jackson).
3:13 so you are bragging about how self serving you are? Wow I’m sure you’ll be remembered for doing a lot!
3:16, you're right - REALISTIC ones! And for those who are whining about South and West Jackson (which both used to be wonderful and beautiful places to raise their families), I have one thing to say...you cannot help those who do not help themselves!!!
Dealing with the City of Jackson can be challenging, I have personally been affected this week by the actions of a black employee who knowingly broke the law to financially harm my team because we are white and he said he doesn't like white people. I have also had good experiences in Jackson but I can not figure out how to go over this guys head to undo what he did. It was not a Police Officer either. He will do various things when he handles the business of white people and there is nothing we can do about it yet.
Home prices are climbing primarily due to simple supply and demand. Large leasing companies are aggressively buying up single-family homes with all-cash offers, removing them from the market for regular buyers. These properties are then converted into rental units — often HUD/Section 8 rentals — while the companies frequently change names or restructure their holdings every year or so to stay a step ahead of fed/state compliance. With fewer homes available for purchase and strong demand from families who want to buy, prices keep getting pushed higher.
As long as the judiciary and city government are run by clowns nothing will change much. We all just watched the man with the furniture store plead for help to an uncaring circle of tribal chiefs that did nothing. All of the talk about self determination, local entrepreneurship, and other HBCU business school buzzwords are meaningless blather without actual action.
Bright Flight
Jackson was once a healthy and thriving city, but it was not made so because people came up with slogans like "the right to rise." It was made so because you had people who lived, worked, and governed in Jackson who cared about viable economic development, quality of life, schools, and law enforcement. All of those areas were severely neglected, resulting in blight and decline.
West and South Jackson are dumps because rednecks from Madison and Rankin county come dump their shit over there.
@12:32 Zillow won't determine what your house is worth. Reality will. And price discovery will only happen if and when you sell it. Jackson wont be saved because it isn't worth saving. Suck that.
9:02 Jackson is absolutely worth saving and it will be saved. Jackson has some of the finest houses in the state, very well attended faithful churches that are historic, 5 universities, lots of great restaurants, plenty of historical buildings, a handful of large companies, a state park, several multi use trails, the current and former state capitols, 5 major hospitals (one is about to build a massive cancer center) and it is smack dab in the middle of the south. Plus lots of good hearted people that work hard to build up the city and love each other. Your bitterness is just plain sad.
The great irony of #2 is that we continue to perpetuate that national reputation ourselves. It is almost like a hive mental illness, TBH.
I'm neither bitter nor sad. Just realistic. Everything you listed is a legacy of a different people from a different time. Those are sunk costs/assets that cannot be moved. Nothing you mentioned generates wealth. Jackson cannot be saved. It can only continue to limp along as a ward of state and federal intervention. I.e., a steady stream of tranfer payments.
Tl;dr You can't save a city that doesn't want to be saved. They only want this month's check to clear.
Until the streets and water system are fixed - nobody wants to move to, or start a business in Jackson, MS. Everything "positive" about Jackson is pure marketing supported by zero reality. They need billions just to fix the streets, and neither the city nor state has it.
@ 12:36 You are so right. U have to stop the bleeding of people. The best way is to start with the young. We, older people only have 30 years left and we are tired and have moved on.
Had to come to the comments to watch all the necks rage at the thought of a Jackson comeback. Didn't disappoint.
Ad hominem attacks are pointless. As is any emotional attachment to Jackson. It's more like most suburbanites just don't care. Most of the citizens of Jackson don't care, so why should I? There's zero rage at the thought of a Jackson comeback, because there's zero chance of it happening.
I have some WorldCom stock that I'll sell him for $65 a share.
@2:12 PM, reality is not based upon what we want. Reality stands on its own and regardless of what anyone thinks about it.
3:10 is correct. Other than crime, inept leadership, grift, and immoral citizens the biggest thing dragging Jackson down is the racism.
Chokwe, and sister, Harvey Johnson, Stokes, Socrates etc. and their blatant hate and racism toward whites ruined that city.
Many posters, such as 2:12, display a false pride regarding our old homeplace. They're really complaining that we went to the dance (left Jackson) and didn't invite them to go along.
7:50AM, As a younger man in 2005-2006 going through that phase of wanting an old house to “fix up” and preserve in Fondren; I dealt with a realtor(vulture)who wanted to sell me a house on Northview Dr and explained to this naive country boy that Northview was still a part of Fondren as we witnessed vagrants at that little park over there. That was back when flipping houses was popular and profitable. That realtor was so infatuated with Pine Hill Dr and mentioned he knew many of the residents on the street and they were successful lawyers and real estate professionals who co-existed with the ghetto who lived at the other end of Pine Hill. I’m sure their children were in private schools so apparently they didn’t co exist with their ghetto neighbors very well.
Some of those same crooks are still in business in Fondren today and thank God one elderly man who was a Fondren resident gave me some advice that I listened to about Jackson’s decline. I never bought my first house in Fondren or Jackson and I didn’t care that I would be missing out on Brent’s Drugs “egg and olive sandwiches” that was a selling point of buying a house in Fondren.
The uppity country club Democrats of Fondren are still living segregated lives but love to preach to the suburbs.
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