Jackson Jambalaya

Lawsuit city! I believe this was tried on the coast and turned in to a nightmare.

Can someone explain to me how they will know from the tag whether or not someone has insurance coverage? One must show proof to get the tag in the first place.

I always feel like somebody's watching me...

This would have been the perfect excuse for the goon squad to kick in someone's door and tazer them.

The first 6 violators caught in this new program get to carpool daily with Sheriff Bailey driving. It will certainly reduce the revenue stream of the seatbelt law violation, I wonder if it's still $75 to the city of Pearl when State law says $25 to the driver. Good luck to those of us driving vehicles with antique tags; I know for fact jack that my antique tag I've had since 1991 doesn't show up "in the system" when queried because the vehicle hasn't been registered in so long because it was never required to be once the antique plate was issued, it's in "the old system" with the DMV so sure to get issued a citation guess I'll have to go to L.A. via Omaha.

And lastly I'm sure this new program will keep uninsured drivers that can't afford auto insurance from driving even more that now they gotta pay a fine and as for those of us that are insured our rates are sure to be reduced. HAHAHAHA Good luck with that happening!

One more reason not to enter Rankin county. Now, Pearl is competing with Brandon for the “Red Neck “ capitol of the USA.

Worried about insurance but not concerened with rampant speeding on residential streets. Lol

Ok kid. You've rehabilitated yourself since being a litterbug back in the 60's, and now more than 50 years later your once more subject to 27 color glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one...sent to you automatically in the mail....so NOW Kid, what you gonna do? I guess we could start by removing our license plates and tossing them in the floor of the vehicle, replace the tag with a "Bobs Auto Sales" paper plate they'd never figure out our address much less "where we stay at".

Thank you as motorist have to pay for poor choices of the uninsured. Great job!

The safety you demanded is now mandatory.

This is a step in the right direction as uninsured motorist in MS cost untold thousands of dollars of damage to those insured. I am curious as to how they will link the tags to their insurance to determine if they have current insurance as on a state level, we do not have filings linked to registration, therefore tags, that keep up to date on renewals and non-renewals/cancellations of insurance. If they are relying on Lexis Nexis for the data, that can be flawed.

Half the license plates in the Metro area have the state and county obscured by tag frames, and many are completely unreadable due to the smoky plastic film covering them. Maybe Pearl could work on that also? I know illegal mufflers would be too much to ask for.

Limu Emu and Doug,Flo and Jamie,Jake and the Geico Gecko; its the new Goon Squad and you WILL comply!

Why stop here? Why not remotely real time monitored cameras in the liquor stores to prevent a possible death due to DUI?

5:15...."One must show proof to get the tag in the first place".....NO YOU DON'T. Where do you live? It ain't here.

Interesting. They could just run all of the licence plates registered in their city and hold their citizen perps accountable - no cameras required. Big Bubba is coming, and in of all places, Rankin County.

With these cameras they’ll soon be calculating speeds, and assigning blame of speeding to the owners, not the drivers. Hmmm. Coulda been my son, daughter, wife, girlfriend, whomever. It sounds too simple, too wonderfully effective, and better yet they’ll call it a civil penalty. But when you sign the “civil penalty” agreement to expediently pay the fine, you also sign agreeing to have violated whatever state/county/municipal statutes of which you’ve been accused. That’s a criminal admission. Pay fuckin attention. I’m sure there’s a Fouth Ammendment violation somewhere in there.

With all those smart cameras they’ll also know who’s visiting every hunting and gun store in the city.

They’ll know where every menber of the press is frequenting. And politicians, municipal leaders, church leaders, you, and me.

Oh!! Right, like I said you and me. For instance, they’ll know when we turn in to shop in malls from all those traffic control mall entry lights(cameras), and sell that info to mall owners and mall residents (Dillards et.al.). Don’t worry, you’ll benefit from a lot of informative advertisements from these connections😜. Ha!

The city will sell this data. Not now, because they’ll make a big commitment not to do so after the outcry. They’ll make a solid soft commitment, or a solid hard commitment that’s slightly askew of target, so in either way the’ll wiggle out of the “not selling our data commitments”. Pay fuckin attention.

Pretty much hope this works out for ya. Next step would be to require $50,000.00 un-Insured coverage. $10,000.00 doesn't Cover Very Much these days.

This is another effort to give law enforcement an other way to pull over minorities and discourage their presence in the elegant county of Rankin, Ms.

Anyone think the Sheriff is about to become an expert on insurance coverages?

He might even get some schooling on exclusions and policy limits.

According to some reports he already is finding out that not having qualified immunity could really suck.

Kudos To Pearl. The appearance of Pearl has drastically changed since Jake took over. BTW....PPD is awesome! If you are not a criminal, you have no problem. If you are a criminal....well....its gonna suck for you. There is a reason we don't have to lock our doors at night. Don't let the bleeding heart liberals c

This new money grab scheme by Pearl will be stopped in state court. Traffic cameras were prohibited in legislation many years ago after Jackson tried the same scheme. Transforming "tag reader" cameras into traffic cameras won't work as a bypass to state law.

Spare us the sanctimony, it’s about revenue.

Unconstitutional all day long. The insurance database that is linked to NCIC is not up to date and was never designed for this purpose. They are going to be issuing citations to the owner that may not be driving and could have insurance, but they have to prove their innocence and take off from work to do it.

Instead of a cash fine, why not confiscate the car for, say, three months to give them time to get insurance. Let the slime ball figure out how to get around without a car for three months - that should be an incentive to stay insured after the three months is up.

If you don't like this idea - don't drive unless you have insurance.

5:09 pm, A lawsuit was filed but it has no basis whatsoever and a Motion to Dismiss has been filed and is awaiting ruling!!

The law is very clear you are supposed to have liability insurance ($25000.00 min). The tag readers check your tag against the state insurance database, if it shows you don’t have insurance you will be sent a notice to produce proof of insurance. If you don’t have it then you can enter a diversion program and get the required insurance.

The tag readers are also used to track criminals.

Correct 5:09

https://www.wlox.com/2023/05/25/ocean-springs-no-longer-issuing-tickets-by-traffic-camera-monitors/

The diversion program aint free either!!!! I would bet it costs a minimum of $100 !

"..Uninsured drivers are placing an undue burden on people following the law and lead to higher insurance rates for everyone.”

1) Since when is 'higher insurance rates' a concern of the police department?

2) I've never been required to show proof of insurance when buying or renewing a vehicle license plate.

3) This is a scam program operated by a company that sells snake-oil. The city of Pearl has bought a bill-of-goods.

6:53, I think your tinfoil hat might be a bit too tight.

well now, if all of you professional "wailers" lurking here would simply "go get sum" insurance like the rest of us do the problem would be solved. As far as those dolts wringing their hands about being "forced" to comply in Pearl...It's not about you or protecting your property, it's all about protecting me and my property from you....geez....

If you google the company name you will see multiple law suits/class action suits for this same exact proposal. The company has also explained that they obtain insurance information from multiple sources, but not government sources. Thus the validity/accuracy of proof of insurance coverage is very sketchy.

New law suit in 3, 2, 1...

You cannot enter or leave the city of Madison on any road coming in to or out of the city limits without your license plate being read...FACT

I don't recall a cop ever asking for my insurance card when they stopped me or at a "checkpoint." But I haven't been stopped in Pearl.

If you have insurance dont worry about it. If you dont have insurance stay away from the city of Pearl. Its not rocket science.

Its just like going to Gluckstadt. They will write you for the most minor traffic infraction since they are all about revenue and you'll be lucky if the officer doesnt haul you to the Tucker Bed and Beakfast for that infraction so he/she can add to their stats.

Then you have pay the wrecker charge and storage charge for having your car towed.

@7:45 AM - Same with Ridgeland, but those cameras are not checking for insurance coverage; they are checking for arrest warrants and stolen vehicles.

If they have to take a picture of your license tag to KNOW if you have insurance...then WHY do they ASK to see your insurance papers on a traffic stop if all they have to do is look it up according to your license tag?

Something is missing here. Someone enlighten the rest of us here, please.

@7:48
I used to listen to the police scanner and when they run your tag and license, the dispatcher will give them your insurance status over the radio when she gives them your other police record info. They tell the officer everything about you over the air.

6:39 - Nailed it.

Every vehicle, trailer, boat and building I own is fully insured; however, still waiting for one of you to validate the claim that there's a database showing which plate is on an insured vehicle.

Unless every automobile insurance carrier operating in this state provides all its coverage data to some company that then integrates that data with every plate issued in Mississippi....It's all bullshit.

And please save the sanctimonious bull-shit of "if'n you ain't broke no law, you got nuthin' to worry 'bout".

The bill that was passed into law is in regard to cameras being used to ticket moving traffic violations. And, yes, you can bet Mayor Mary has photos of your drawers hanging on your clothesline if the line is visible from the street.

It is interesting that some would proclaim support of the "Goon Squad" and its extreme and repeated violations of numerous plainly-stated rights as a necessary evil to keep the forces of (largely non-violent mala prohibita) criminal anarchy at bay while others would proclaim that license plate readers used to enforce a state law (concerning a non-violent mala prohibita offense) is a Draconian big-government violation of what is not even an implied right.

Driving or owning a vehicle is not a right so doing so without insurance is not a right. The state is well within its authority to require driver's licenses, registration of vehicles, and insurance on them, along with all manner of laws about vehicle operation (speeding, reckless driving, driving under the influence, etc.). A vehicle being flagged by the cameras does not convict the owner of a crime, it simply initiates the process. If the owner produces proof of insurance, that's that. If the owner has no insurance, the matter progresses in a prescribed, lawful manner.

That said, those suggesting that the camera system has flaws and inadequacies are correct. Those who suggest it is partially a "revenue grab" sold to the city by a for-profit company are probably correct. Those who suggest that it will likely prove to be an unworkable, challenged program based on similar programs being implemented, reasonably complained about for inaccuracy, and retired around Mississippi and the country are almost certainly correct. But being a fiscally-imprudent program that will likely fail does not make it a violation of the "right" to drive or drive without insurance because there are no such rights. My guess: this system will produce too many wrong "hits" and those who are and have always been insured will raise enough hell about it that the city will scrap it.

For every "tin foil hat" insult there's an ostrich.

Please people, learn WHY it is that we have higher car insurance rates than most States.
If you couldn't get a license plate for your car without proof of insurance AND had to have a plate in the county in which you reside for voting, law enforcement could better use their time and energy.
If only those we elect would bother to look at the laws that work well in other states!

For it. If you comply with the laws on the books you don't have an issue. If you don't well that's your issue. Hopefully our liberal courts will understand that the public is tired of the excuses.

Thank you @6:39!! I was told the first time I was hit by an uninsured motorist, by the insurance commission that state law had no teeth in it because no money was included. Requiring all Mississippi drivers to have liability insurance looked great on paper and for optics but meant absolutely nothing. I have been hit additional times (apparently my vehicle attracts idiot drivers) with the most recent being a genius fleeing the scene. I don’t know the solution but it’s definitely not fair that complying citizens continue to accrue the cost of individuals that not only don’t have insurance but don’t have a driver’s license.

Nothing like turning law enforcement into a profit center.

The timing of this announcement is a bit tone deaf considering Rankin's appearance in the national news this very week.

I asked both Alexis and Siri if this new program in Pearl was a violation of my privacy rights and they couldn't agree it was or wasn't. So now I'm really perplexed!

Mississippi outlawed using cameras for speeding tickets. Using them for insurance violations is a loophole that either the legislature or court will close.

What a waste of money. If those dead broke losers can’t or won’t pay for insurance, what makes you think they will pay a fine.

So sick of chick-shit local police using speed traps (see FPD at the end of Cooper Road) and bully tactics to harass tax payers instead of going after criminals and offenders (like the fat and lazy Hinds County residents that park in handicap parking spots).

Hillbilly Law.

FIRST & formost- I applaud Jake & Dean in their efforts to protect the motorists from those that choose not to buy insurance & to continue to hold the line from the criminal element that come from the sanctuary city.
My suggestion to them however is to obtain a clear & specific state law to address the use of the cameras to enforce a traffic related law. As it stands MS Code doesn’t allow as it targets red lights but anyone can argue the language of this law could certainly apply with motorists requirements.

While I’m on my lawyer soapbox I’ll now jump on my law enforcement soapbox- I completely understand not wanting “Big Brother Cameras” but these cameras were originally used as a tool to identify a stolen car, track a fugitive, help locate a missing person, etc.. a real good law enforcement tool that now ever joe including the crooks know about so all our gotta know & use abuse has done nothing but placed even more restrains on the cops.. my 2cts = abused system that shouda kept been on a need to know to the general public

Pearl- Here’s the code I was referring to in case no one researched:

§ 17-25-19. Prohibition against ordinance authorizing use of automated recording equipment to enforce compliance with or impose penalties for violation of traffic laws—-
(1)(a) Neither the board of supervisors of any county nor the governing authority of any municipality shall adopt, enact or enforce any ordinance authorizing the use of automated recording equipment or system to enforce compliance with traffic signals, traffic speeds or other traffic laws, rules or regulations on any public street, road or highway within this state or to impose or collect any civil or criminal fine, fee or penalty for any such violation.

Good for Pearl

Plenty of deadbeats running up and down the road with no insurance.

The penalties are not stiff enough. Car should be impounded until insurance is obtained plus a nice $ 500.00 fine.

Although I am not one for "big brother cameras" issuing tickets for uninsured doesn't phase me. I applaud it. Having auto insurance is the law. I pay for it and the costs go up because people do jot get it. There was a bill to make it mandatory to provide insurance when purchasing a tag that did not pass.
As to the question about tags linked to insurance that has been in place for at least a few years. When you get auto insurance you have to provide a VIN. THERE IS A DATABASE.
Driving is not a right its a privilege either rules to be followed. Some of the rules are for your safety and others. Why do you own a vehicle and don't have liability insurance? It's an expense just fuel, tires ands maintenance. Budget for it.

The Lawyer at 12:43 is correct. But the Rednecks who run the City of Pearl will ignore his ( or her ) warning because they are trying to make money off this. The company that will contract with the City of Pearl to set this system up will get a percentage of every ticket written. They had this same system in Washington State in and near Seattle when I lived there. It was all a liberal scam to make money. If the citizens of Pearl ( I call them Pearlons ( for singular ) or Pearlites ( for plural ), and other Mississippians do not fight this, what comes next is cameras at every intersection taking pictures of license plates that they claim ran the red light, and then people receiving tickets in the mail. I hope that the Pearlites wake up and fight this.

First they surveilled the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they surveilled the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they surveilled the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they surveilled the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they surveilled me
And there was no one left
To help defend my rights for me

Be careful what you allow, and support, lest you become ensnared by it.

The cameras are not hooked up to the NCIC.

They are hooked up to Mike Chaney's office to determine whether the vehicle has insurance placed against it.

Pearl is a desperately money hungry town. They get very little tax revenue from their giant financial boondoggle ball field or they crappy strip mall with knock off cheap clothes. The administration just needs a little more money to hire their buds in little govt. check positions. It's becoming as mafia and shanty as Jackson. Sad what has become of this quite formerly-thriving town from where it was a generation ago.

§ 17-25-19. Prohibition against ordinance authorizing use of automated recording equipment to enforce compliance with or impose penalties for violation of traffic laws—-
(1)(a) Neither the board of supervisors of any county nor the governing authority of any municipality shall adopt, enact or enforce any ordinance authorizing the use of automated recording equipment or system to enforce compliance with traffic signals, traffic speeds or other traffic laws, rules or regulations on any public street, road or highway within this state or to impose or collect any civil or criminal fine, fee or penalty for any such violation.

Pearl is doomed. First thing you know Highway 80 through Pearl will be the mobile home sales capital of the sta....Wait!

Imagine people adhering to the law and having insurance that covers the other person in case of an accident. Some of these replies are ridiculous. Is it so hard to have insurance on the vehicle you drive? It’s called being a responsible human being. Imagine how better the state would be if people in this state thought about other people besides themselves.

Just another money making scheme. Has anyone ever read the agreement you have to sign to pay a traffic ticket on line? It is something many cities are doing. It would be a good idea to read before using the card to pay a fine.

I have traveled on Lakeland Ave in Rankin county late at night or very early in the morning, only because that is when my flight ended. I always see Rankin county law enforcement officers waiting like buzzards for out of county tags to cross the Pearl river so they can fund the law enforcement agencies which consist of steroid hooked overbuilt red necks. If anyone thinks this is something new, go back and look at the Mississippi history of this deplorable county.

This is not about traffic or traffic cameras but about compliance. The law reference I see in this has no meaning. The quality of life in Mississippi is damaged and we all live in fear as we have the highest uninsured vehicle rate. We need to stop pretending we are some third world country. This is just not okay and just "ugly" for the Hospitality State. The City of Senatobia sued and won to establish this as legal. These are real citations with serious consequences - as they should be. The driver's identity is never known, it's about the vehicle and its owner and this is NCIC-linked, and the database is that of the government. Law enforcement controls it. There are some people who would rather complain that honor the law and protect their fellow citizens. That is very sad. Look at other Southern States.... they do not tolerate this uninsured vehicle nightmare.

As soon as I get mine I am headed to file a suit in US Federal Court like they did in Ocean Springs. I have insurance, but it's not listed in the database they use. I already had someone check. I should not have to prove my innocence when they are doing something that is against state law and the Constitution. Stop trying to generate revenue and get out and do your job. The law abiding citizens should not be inconvenienced for this shenanigans. For those that intend to come at me saying get insurance. Go look at the stats Ocean Springs had. Hundreds of insured drivers were issued citations. Hence the reason they were forced to stop using this company.

More rules, more laws. Why?
Because a small group of people are assholes, create a problem through their own neglect and leave people in authority feeling they must solve the problem. The problem with this is, with this type of approach, they penalize the entire population instead of looking for creative ways to hold responsible the ones that are actually creating the problem. This mindset is destroying the country one more law at a time.
Govern me harder daddy!

Anybody see the show Parking Wars? This thread reminded me of it. Its hilarious. Follows ticket writers and towers around. You wouldn't believe the shenanigans some folks do.

"The driver's identity is never known, it's about the vehicle and its owner and this is NCIC-linked, and the database is that of the government"

There is insurance available, where a person has liability insurance, but doesn't own the car. What about that?

1) The use of these cameras for the stated purpose is against Mississippi law. Slice it however you like.

2) Senatobia, in Tate County, is another jurisdiction that uses this service and so-called violators receive notices in the mail to appear in court.

3) Municipalities do not issue traffic tickets as a means of fattening their money jar. A municipality in this state retains less than 25% of the traffic fine. The rest goes to the state.

Mississippi Class Action suit against Securix. https://www.classaction.org/news/class-action-says-securix-diversion-program-to-identify-ticket-uninsured-vehicles-is-unconstitutional

For 10:47 - What evidence do you have that Mike Chaney's office has a database showing every vehicle in Mississippi and which ones are insured?

The law should read you buy insurance to protect yourself and if you don't have insurance your shit out of luck no matter who's fault it is