The County Club of Jackson gained its freedom from Jackson's water system after Governor Tate Reeves signed SB #2433 yesterday. The bill allows CCJ to operate its own water system.
CCJ built its own water system before Jackson annexed the subdivision. The Country Club of Jackson has two deep water wells with treatment plants and a 100,000 gallon elevated storage tank in the form of a golf ball. The HOA employs a water systems specialist. The system can serve the neighborhood and the country club. The country club still uses the system.
JJ reported Monday:
The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to the distribution of water by an eligible homeowners association only to its residents, irrespective of the subdivision's location inside of an area subject to a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity held by an eligible municipality. Additionally, the provisions of this chapter shall not apply to any entity supplying water to an eligible homeowner's association for purposes of supplying water only to its residents. These provisions shall not apply whether an eligible homeowners association elects to provide water to its residents on a full-time basis or opts for an emergency connection to a private water source for use only when water from an eligible municipality is unavailable, unreliable or unsafe.The bill clearly applies only to Jackson as it defines "eligible municipality" as any city with a population of more than 100,000 and homeowners associations as those created before 1970 and built outside municipal boundaries.
The bill passed the Senate 40-12 and the House of Representatives 77-36. But for State Senator Michel and State Representative Shanda Yates, the Jackson delegation voted against the bill.*
State Senator Michel said he sponsored the bill at the request of the CCJ homeowner's association.... History and text of bill.
HOA President Breck Hines said the next step is to conduct engineering studies to determine what course of action to take. Pickering Engineering has been retained for the task. "It's not as simple as turning on a valve. We just want to be able to control our destiny if the water situation does not improve," said Mr. Hines. He said one option might be to just use the water system as a back-up system during water emergencies.
There are 192 homes in the subdivision.
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Wow, all of a sudden these "rich" folks at CCJ don't want to pay the price for water freedom. I guess their credit limit was hit a LONG time ago.
Wow, that changed fast. They went from Water Freeeedom to maybe just a back-up system one day in the far off future.
You can’t generate a water system from thin air. A significant levy, or ongoing tax, will be needed for the residents in CCJ, just to build the system. Maintaining it will require an ongoing levy, qualified operators, water system maintenance contracts, pipe system maintenance, and so forth. The folks in CCJ are affluent, but most affluent folks don’t like taxes, let alone brand new taxes. We’ll see what they think when they get the bill.
Enjoy the responsibility!
I doubt they are going to the trouble and expense just for a backup. The same logic follows that got the major hospitals off Jackson water and onto their own wells years ago. Byram won't be far behind.
"Can't get blood from a turnip but you can get water from a golf ball, right."
A stand-by system is just as expensive a a fully functional one, all the new CCJ water dept employees will just be standing around waiting for the call to operate it. This is the most important work the legislture has prioritized in their brief operating window. No wonder we’re last in nearly everything.
It might help if you two Karens (actually one) would realize that the bill had to pass and be signed into law in order for the CCJ to take action when and if it decides to. Until the point of signature, the 'plan' was simply a concept. Does that help the WOW poster?
Like clockwork the always reliable Lumumba apologists arrive to spread FUD.
They still get to pay city water bill and sewerage bill.
Yes you read that right.
@12:11 Yeah, some dense ones on this thread!
Be careful what you wish for
Free at last, free at last, thank Tater almighty we are free at last.
I would advise to use the well(s) as a backup supply. As long as their wells are currently in compliance with MSDH regs or can be. But that would still require opening/closing multiple valves when the City system goes down.
I don't think they want to get completely off the City system. If they do why should Jackson's fire department answer calls from the CC?
Wow, seems like the first two comments ruffled a lot of feathers. Maybe this new fangled water system will keep Sanderson Farms from flying the coop.
Now that they have "solved" the water crisis, maybe they can fix their awful roads in that neighborhood!
Tater going to make some lawyer rich
Democrat legislators are torn up over this outcome-
Should the city cut their water, sewage and garbage service one this district starts. July 1, I assume
Your move, Eastover! Looks like the Jones's over by the Dollar G. on County Line Rd. have a shiny new toy.
Mississippi needs sentencing guidelines like they do in the federal system. The legislature needs to stop writing laws based on political climate and write laws that address the real needs of this state.
2:30 - Did you parachute into the wrong thread again? This is becoming a habit for you.
Why would you need to charge for sewage, it’s all getting dumped into the Pearl river anyway. Besides that, the sewerage from CCJ surely doesn’t stink anyway.
"You can’t generate a water system from thin air. A significant levy, or ongoing tax, will be needed for the residents in CCJ, just to build the system. Maintaining it will require an ongoing levy, qualified operators, water system maintenance contracts, pipe system maintenance, and so forth. "
Yep - that's what we did in Madison, and we have clean, reliable water coming out of our faucets. Who woulda thunk it?
"Maybe this new fangled water system will keep Sanderson Farms from flying the coop."
If they beg and say pretty please we might let them use Annandale Golf & Country Club again ;-)
They already have a good bit of that. Pipes are already there. That is why Pickering is conducting a study.
The new law requires the city to keep providing sewer and to keep providing water so long as the neighborhood wants it, and requires the city to sell the pipes and other assets at fair market value. It’s almost like the folks who wrote the law knew what they were doing.
They would be smart to switch over permanently, and not just use their wells as a backup. As we discussed already, it's not like they could turn a valve and get clean water, as the potentially contaminated water is already in their water mains thanks to the city water system.
The Sanderson family lives in NE Jackson and one in Fondren
“ If they do why should Jackson's fire department answer calls from the CC?”
Ummm, maybe because they still pay property taxes and other taxes that fund the fire department
John Horne questions if this is legal. Lumumba says it’s racist. Hell, Chokwe hasn’t learned people with means can do a lot to help you or hurt you.
"If they do why should Jackson's fire department answer calls from the CC?"
March 9, 2023 at 1:54 PM
Maybe because where a residential water source originates has nothing to do with whether a municipal fire department responds to emergencies in that neighborhood?
I suspect next you will suggest the black mayor and black fire chief should develop a policy of not responding to fires at homes owned by white folk. Or that the response time be based on property value.
John Horne, why would you think digging a whole in the ground deep enough to find water would be illegal. Maybe it is time for you to look for another line of work?
5:48 AM, empty threats and promises. No one in CCJ has "means". Third or fourth generations that have spent all the money a long time ago.
This is not in the state's authority to authorize. This is a municipality issue. Any decent lawyer will be able to overturn in court.
Lots of lobbying money and hot air wasted on this one.
Water is the simplest of all public services to manage. Every little cross roads of people in America does it every day. Water companies and nonprofits do it with little staff with out any problems.
Yup. Fifth Circuit said so in airport case.
Horhn is showing his true colors. When under pressure, he became another race-baitin' Lumumba. He knows public utility districts are widespread across the country. However, the tripe about not losing Jackson assets was just a smokescreen to keep the contractor buddies in bidness. He opposed every bill that banned using property tax values to compute water bills. He voted against the revised 1020 that gave the DA everything he asked for and expanded the Capitol Police jurisdiction throughout the city. In other words, the Lion of the Senate became the Bitch of Jackson. Yeah, I said it .
Can we file this under " becareful what you wish for"?
Only now are the "details" actually being brought up and even still no detail in the differences between EPA water testing standards and MSDH or even at this point, whether the CCJ meets those standards consistently .
Of the wells that have existed on my properties owned by my family, NONE meet EPA standards and are using ONLY for plants and animals ( except one unfit for any living thing after being contaminated by an illegal waste dumping).
Predictable knee jerk reactions and comments by those suffering inferiority complexes. You don't need to live at CCJ. Simply buy your wife big plastic tits, die her hair blond and buy her a big white suv. You have now arrived, with or without clean water and CCJ dues.
@5:12 You’re right - one hundred ninety two homes in CCJ developing their own water supply will be just like Madison. Except Madison’s water supply was generated as a private entity with potentially great expansion (which is still being realized). CCJ has 192 captives. Sanderson Farms is not going anywhere since they’ve been bought and are just chicken farmers now. Mississippi is last or nearly so because of so many such superficial thoughts as you espouse.
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