Wednesday, January 14, 2015

Republicans defend amendment alternative

Governor Phil Bryant and Speaker of the House Philip Gunn issued the following press releases:



Gov. Phil Bryant Comments on Mississippi House Passage of HCR9
 
JACKSON – Gov. Phil Bryant issues the following comment on the passage of House Concurrent Resolution 9 (HCR9), which passed the Mississippi House today by a vote of 64-57.

“It’s my understanding that HCR9 simply supports an effective system of free public schools.  Like most Mississippians, I am in total support of effective government and an effective education system.  I believe the voting public is intelligent enough to select the version they believe is the best.”


MS House of Representatives Adopt Alternative to Initiative 42 (Gunn)

Jackson, MS—Today, the MS House of Representatives passed House Concurrent Resolution 9 (HCR9) providing for a legislative alternative to Initiative 42 by a vote of 64-57.

“House Republicans have been focused on designing a clear alternative to Initiative 42,” said Speaker of the House Philip Gunn. “With HCR9, focus is on educational output and accomplishments, not just funding for the sake of funding. The operative word in the alternative is effective. We want schools that are accomplishing something. We want schools that are effective.”

The alternative states: “The Legislature shall, by general law, provide for the establishment, maintenance and support of an effective system of free public schools.”

It focuses on three factors:

·Keeping the decision about funding in the hands of the voters, not a judge for whom voters cannot vote.

·Preserving the integrity of the Constitution by maintaining the separation of powers between the legislature and the judiciary.

·Focusing on educational outputs and accomplishments.

“If the legislature is removed from the process, the people are being removed from the process,” said Speaker Gunn. “Their right to say how their money is being spent is being taken away. Initiative 42 proposes to do just that—remove the people from the process and put that decision in the hands of a judge for whom the people cannot vote.”

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Damn! Gunn called some people out on the floor yesterday.

Anonymous said...

"put that decision in the hands of a judge for whom the people cannot vote"

Who is this unelected judge?

Anonymous said...

This is not a facetious question. As a Jackson resident in District 56, what has Gunn done for our part of Hinds County? Anything? I'm curious.

Anonymous said...

Damn! Some people called out Gunn too.

Anonymous said...

Gunn is correct!!!

Anonymous said...

@9:37...they sure did, but when he said to name names they got real quite. 13 people threatened by the Speaker they said, so Gunn said tell us who they are. Only 2 GOP voted NO.

Anonymous said...

In reading Gunn's quote in the CL yesterday, I have yet to see where he denied the strong-arm tactics. What he did say is there was no proof and stop talking about it. He wants to talk about the amendment instead.

I would too if I had just threatened a bunch of lawmakers.

Anonymous said...

The fact that only 2 Republicans voted "NO" does not prove that strong arm tactics were not used. It could tend to show that they were. The people who know aren't saying exactly what happened. They are just saying there is no proof. That could change.

Who's On First said...

This sounds like some bull shit Billy McCoy might pull. Or Buddy Newman and his chump Sonny Meredith.

Anonymous said...

Who is this unelected judge?

Do you really need the question answered?

Anonymous said...

Pandering ...that's all this is.

If it weren't bogus, what an awful idea it is to put education solely in the hands of those who , for the most part, are undereducated and unwilling to bother ( their excuse is " too busy" to read and learn anything about effective or efficient educational systems!

If your wife's or daughter's pregnancy is in crisis, do you want the opinion of a midwife or an obstetrician who might actually know more? ( And suggesting our legislature knows as much about education as a midwife knows about pregnancy is an unfortunate insult to midwives!)

Bill Dees said...

11:21 AM is right. "It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing." Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5.

Anonymous said...

And, do you believe Judges automatically know a whole lot about education? I believe we have several in the Legislature who have spent a great deal of time studying education. Nevertheless,we have voted for this Legislature and they are vested with the task of making law.

Anonymous said...

The bozos in public education have done nothing but pay themselves very, very well to remain on the bottom.

Anonymous said...

My two cents is that we need (1) more money spent on education and (2) a more responsible body in charge of the spending.

Writing checks to Jackson Public is a waste.

Education should not be up to 82+ school districts. Create a division of education (maybe within the office of the governor, like with Medicaid) and give it authority over teacher qualifications & duties, curriculum, etc. Then hold it & the gov accountable.

Anonymous said...

Screw the people. The Tea Party intellectuals in the Mississippi Legislature know what's best for us.

Anonymous said...

"screw the people" 4:08??

What happened - when you took your GED they failed to teach you the basics of our democratic republic? The "people" are represented by the elected legislature. You might not like them - the "Tea Party intellectuals" or the other idiotic "intellectuals" that pander to the other side(s) - but they have been elected to allocate the spending of my (and yours, if you are paying any) tax dollars.

None of the four Chancery Judges - Owen, Thomas, Wise or Singletary - were elected by the people to appropriate tax dollars for any purpose, including education. And I'm not sure I would put them as a group above the intellectual level of the legislature either.

Anonymous said...

I don't think teachers, superintendents,etc in MS are paid very well. Look at the superintendent of schools in Carroll county. I read somewhere today that he is paid $18,000 per year. Does anyone here think that is a living wage?

Anonymous said...

Nice cherry-picking 12:47AM. Apparently the Carroll County Superintendent does make $18,000 if you can believe what you read on the internet. His predecessor made more than $80,000, so I'm not sure if he is wealthy and is somehow foregoing his normal salary or what. The average teacher in Carroll County makes $40,078 & the average Superintendent makes close to $100k. Of course the really interesting data is the WIDE differences in Superintendent & Admin costs per student in the district. http://www.mde.k12.ms.us/docs/state-superintendent/superintendent-annual-report-2014.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Anonymous said...

And Carroll County School District only has 1000 students. In addition to the Superintendent, they also have an Assistant Superintendent. How many layers of bureaucracy do they need to educate 1,000 students?

Anonymous said...

know one thing Phillip Gunn, we have the facts on your church hiring then hiding the hiring of a pedophile, you knew it and all of MS will if you try and do anything other than foul up the legislature.


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