Jackson Jambalaya

While $80/Gb may seem like a smoking hot deal, C Spire will have a hard time providing true 1GB per customer unless they have an upstream capacity equal to their total downstream capacity. For instance, if they have even 10 customers with 1Gb, they would have to have 10Gb upstream Internet capacity. 10G is certainly attainable. If they acquire 100 customers, then they will need 100G upstream capacity which is highly unlikely. Otherwise this is an over subscription model and no one will really be able to experience the full 1G they pay for.

November 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM = CLUELESS as to traffic analysis and engineering

Ok 1:35, why don't you fill us in?

+1 for @1:35. Over fiber, this will be a genuine Gb regardless of what your neighbor is doing on his connection. This isn't cable internet crap and it sure isn't DSL. Those cities just entered a class of their own. I wish Madison made the list.

I'm interested, too......my office is in Ridgeland and we need more speed........

1:35, 12:23 is a classic example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. 1:48, based on what was stated in that comment, it would take far too long to explain it to 12:23...

Just as roads are not built to a capacity sufficient to guarantee that the speed limit will be available to all drivers at all times, peak or other, nor are telecommunication and data networks.

November 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM's contention that a fully symmetric 100% of 1Gig capacity should be carved out of any network for each individual user on a 24/7/365 availability basis -- and at $80 monthly -- is beyond lunacy.

1:35; Y'all got exposed 'fore you even got out of the chute!

Technical question: My maximum speed (downloading) with Comcast Cable (home service, not business) is 20 Mb/sec. Will someone who signs up for C Spire's new service have to upgrade their home Wi-Fi to handle an increase in speed that large? Since C Spire doesn't currently provide anything to the house I assume everyone will have to get some sort of modem from C Spire, right?

While this is great for these "under served" communities, there is no way a full 1G can be simultaneously guaranteed to all that subscribe unless they have the capacity upstream. The over subscription model assumes all customers will not demand full capacity at the same time. Sure the business and residential subscribers would not require full access at the same time, so they may be able to balance that traffic. Then of course one would have to refer to a BGP model that would suffice in the event one of the upstream providers had a fiber cut or another outage such as a router failure, ect. So let's say in Clinton for instance, they sell 1,000 subscribers 1G, they would need 1,000G x 2, (if they balanced the traffic 50/50 between two upstream providers that would be 2,000G). Use that same back of the envelope math across the model to provide service to the announced cities and 2,000G becomes significantly more that would have to be provided in order to meet an SLA guarantee.

Please stick your head in a hole in the ground.

The 1Gig is ACCESS. You will not be guaranteed that throughput through the CSpire network, through the Internet, to your egress point and back.

SLAs? LMAO. SLAs @ $80 per month? ROFLMAO

Unless you are running a server farm in your garage 5:24 PM I doubt you'll remotely come close to maxing out your existing router.

If you are renting equipment from Comcast now (they are reaming you) they'll want it back. CSpire will undoubtedly be agreeable to rent (and ream) you for the CPE also.

5:26...that is what I thought, access is not to be confused with a full 1G port. In any event it should be better than DSL or cable. Congrats to all that will get 1G access. Hopefully the upstream congestion will not be too bad. I was just trying clarify the 1G service. All in the news are saying 1G=100x faster than you currently have. You must admit, that is a little misleading. So, what do you think the actual end to end throughput will be on the 1G access since it will not be 1G.

5:44...that being said, what would an expert such as yourself think the actual throughput will be on this "so called 1G".

Like others have said, the idea that every subscriber is going to be maxing out their gigabit throughput anywhere close to 100% of the time is totally ludicrous. First of all, 1 gbps is 128 megabytes per second. Meaning if you had a terabyte of storage you would fill it up in a little bit over 2 and a half hours. And that is assuming the site you are downloading the stuff from can even pipe it to you at a gigabit per second, which it can't. Consider also the fact that streaming 1080p in 3D only takes up about 9-12mbps, or about 1 percent of your bandwidth capacity.

So, I mean, while 12:23 and 5:26 are sort of correct, the assumption that everybody's connections are going to be maxed out belies reality.

6:36..Then isn't the 1G advertised rate a little misleading if, as you say 1Gbps = 128Mbs. I thought 1G = 1G. I guess I'll go put my head back in a whole.

"Unless you are running a server farm in your garage 5:24 PM I doubt you'll remotely come close to maxing out your existing router.

If you are renting equipment from Comcast now (they are reaming you) they'll want it back. CSpire will undoubtedly be agreeable to rent (and ream) you for the CPE also."

I'll try to make my question simpler. When I bought the WiFi router I use to retransmit my Comcast signal throughout my home, the capacity was more than able to handle the 20Mb/sec max download speed I was getting. Are standard, home use wireless routers capable of handling the promised sppeds from C Spire?

So 1Gbps=128mbps hmm interesting.

Is C Spire not worried about the cosmic effect of bringing
that kind of speed to Starkville?

I mean this could create hole in the Universe or worse!

6:36 - It's confusing bits with bytes. Eight bits in a byte. I agree it tends to be misleading to most consumers, but every telecom company advertises their services that way.

6:51 - The answer to your question is no, they would not be capable of handling the speeds if you were maxing the connection out. The fastest available WiFi routers say they can achieve 600Mbps, and they can only do that under the most ideal of conditions.

I love it when introverted nerds argue about techie shit.

Serious question: If all of the above people were in the Hilton ballroom at the same time, standing around, each having a brandy, each admiring the pocket-protectors of the others while discussing bytes and bits...and their wives were in an adjoining room playing bridge and discussing Volvos; how long, exactly, would it take for the entire wait staff to quit their jobs and walk out?

YAWN ... SSNnnnnnnooooorrrrreeee

8:37 Me too. But in this case, it seems that someone read few buzzwords and decided to crown themselves engineer for the day. Some of this is just silly...

Even if it's only 50 times faster than what I've got now (10 Mb), it's the same price for Internet and TV as what I'm paying Uverse and what I used to pay Comcast. Yeah, I'm buying. Y'all should do the same so you can have your dorkfest pissing contest via video conference.

Well, joining the conversation quite late, but found this thread while researching my own experience. We have CSpire 1Gbps service now. The first day, with the technicians on site, they proved 1Gbps downstream and 1Gbps upstream. Awesome! On day 2, the service dropped, and for a week after it stayed throttled at 30Mbps/30Mbps. This is actually lower on average than what we have with our other cable ISP, and not at all what I expected. I sent an email to the company and during that conversation our speeds climbed from 30Mbps to 120Mbps and then to 500Mbps/500Mbps. (Speeds are back down again today, and I wonder if most people even know they are getting marginally better speeds than our cable ISP)

I asked, when you get all of this area online (not just our neighborhood) can we expect to average 1Gbps/1Gbps that we subscribed to on day 1. This is important to me for a few reasons. #1, by offering fiber, they are killing off the competition. I suspect we won't have a choice in a few months. #2, we subscribed to 1Gbps and pay a premium for that, #3, it's widely marketed and touted to be such an exceptional service, and 1Gbps will open up a whole new world of innovation and services to homes (I'm in the educational technology development business). #4, I truly need 1Gbps, to complement the services and products that my company are developing.

Being the cynic, and seeing right away what appears to be bandwidth throttling, and resolution only when called, I truly hope they will deliver consistently 1Gbps, but fear they will not. The temptation to oversell their capacity (further up the line) will be very high.