The Queen and the Bagboy went at it last night in a debate at Madison Central High School. You can read my live notes of the debate on Twitter @Kingfish1935 . Here are some videos from the debate in chronological order. I'm going to post the complete video later today. I thought you might like these clips from the first half hour of the debate, as the complete video is nearly two hours long. It's entertaining. Pour a drink or espresso and enjoy.
This clip gets real good.
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Does anyone know what Crosby is talking about? I guess not since it doesn't appear that he does either. His voting record with the Board of Supervisors isn't one that he's obviously proud of, so what experience does he have? There is a reason that folks want to move to Madison. It has nothing to do with any of the need for change that Crosby boasts. I'll be voting for Mary.
Before yesterday had found JBC's "Vote for me, secretly, I'm not MHB" campaign to be woefully amateurish but now, after last night, realize the campaign accurately reflects the candidate.
JBC-You could tell last night that he is getting desperate. On his facebook page this AM he puts the Mayor down for running a business and says he will be a full time Mayor. The Mayor does not run the store....Her husband does. The store would have been opened earlier had he not had a stroke and almost died. You are really getting desperate JBC when you start slinging that type of mud. You have to run for Supervisor again. We will see how that goes.
The "Bagboy" got scanned, sacked, and rolled into the parking lot.....
I must say I'm no real fan of Mayor Mary. While I greatly admire her vision for the development of Madison, I deplore many of the tactics she's used to get there.....and let's face it: were it not for the great neighborhoods, Madison (the City) would not be seen as anything that remarkable (unless you like train depot and urns architecture.) Out-of-towners would be more likely to find Canton to be more quaint than Madison.
All that being said, JBC offers no real alternative as a candidate. On a national level, we've all seen what "change for change's sake" can do to us, so if JBC wanted the mayorship, he should've offered a reason to change from the status quo....at least we KNOW (for certain) what MM offers. We have no real idea what JBC would do.....And I'm not sure he does either.
I'll be voting for Mayor Mary. And, I believe most everyone else will be too. I predict a 70-30 win for Mary.......
like most of these debates, the only people in the audience are the candidate's friends and family, and in the mayor's case some of her devoted employees. All the pomp and circumstance is so silly. Everybody already knows who they are going to vote for, why pretend like this is a debate of national importance?
I have to admit its entertaining to watch her prance back and forth across the stage like its a beauty pageant.
Queen 1
Bagboy 0
Crosby just comes across as a if he's still trying to convince himself that he's a better candidate than Mary. Really awkward campaign with nearly zero valid talking points. If Madison had a ton of problems, I guess he might have something to run against. It doesn't. It mostly just makes developers mad that they can't do whatever they want. Other than that, things are pretty good, and I'm not saying that is necessarily a negative.
John Bell was exposed last night for what he is - a decent guy with very little political skill. It became evident early in the debate that emotion was going to be more important than statistics, and Mary capitalized on that while JBC kept telling us over and over why we needed two more fire stations. JBC seems to be running his campaign on loosening the architectural standards to bring new business to Madison that otherwise won't come - not much of a platform when you're up against 31 years of successful incumbency, and I don't know many Madison residents who think we need to relax our standards for any new business. Sorry, Squench. It doesn't look like you'll be moving north anytime soon.
MHB has done a tremendous job for Madison and I hope she can stay in office for several more terms. Not sure what Kroger is paying these days, but my guess is Board of Supervisors might be willing to pay for fewer battles within the City of Madison. Don't ruin a good thing for the sake of money. Madison's "barriers" to entry are not so significant to keep businesses out; not so significant as to cause racial discrimination in housing (I've got whites, blacks, hispanics, and rednecks that live near me). From a residential perspective, the city needs to spend more money on certain roads and periodically audit the permits department. As a result of what MHB has done the Madison County School District has thrived. It could have been very different; just look at some of the neighboring school districts.
Hate it that JBC has spent his and other peoples money for this experience.
Belhaven, Eastover, NE Jackson, County Line, Ridgeland and now Madison. Its simply in the path of flight. Madison's heyday will last longer due to high building code standards, but it will inevitably age and people will continue wanting the newest and shiniest and coolest new place. Enjoy it while it lasts, it never does.
Wish the moderator, or Mary on rebuttal, had axed Crosby what types of businesses he's talking about when he claims all these companies have told him they'll flock in if he's elected but will stay away if she is. Nail salons? Payday loan companies? Car washes with an oil change bay? While he was criticizing her insistence that Wally World conform to Madison standards, she got him to admit he had fought tooth and nail against Wal Mart coming to town.
I fully expected him, halfway thru the debate, to throw up his hands and withdraw, put on a butcher's apron and apply for the assistant meat market manager at the Lake Harbour Kroger.
JBC is a horrible speaker. Whomever he has working with him should be fired! Um and uh is really all he can say. Did he really think he could just wing it and not prepare at all? And he seemed like he did not know what he was even talking about. I certainly would not want someone like that as mayor. And good grief he has that HB hillbilly diction draw. I really thought he would have been some competition. She wore him out with class. Love her passion for Madison! No strings attached!
I'm going to post the entire video in a couple of hours but do y'all want me to keep posting these clips by question or not?
"Belhaven, Eastover, NE Jackson, County Line, Ridgeland and now Madison. Its simply in the path of flight. Madison's heyday will last longer due to high building code standards, but it will inevitably age and people will continue wanting the newest and shiniest and coolest new place. Enjoy it while it lasts, it never does."
Pineapples will keep the barbarians at bay....
I like the clips by question.. It makes it easier to go back and review, in my humble opinion.
3:22 you are right. JBC cannot speak! He was pathetic!
Why would anyone vote for change an unknown change at that ? I have lived here for eighteen years and what I have been most impressed with is city hall and public works, they treat you like a neighbor---the fire department employees are outstanding and if you ever have to call a cop you better go to the door after you hang up the phone because he will be standing there. The reason this city will maintain its integrity is because the Mayor wants it that way !! People want to live where they are safe and she gets that.
Agree with Blowfish. Clips per question.
Kingfish; you posting the whole thing will be equally as boring and non-eventful as you posting your weekly appearance on JNT. Get real.
Kingfish; you posting the whole thing will be equally as boring and non-eventful as you posting your weekly appearance on JNT. Get real.
Then stop reading here jerk off. Perhaps the JFP is more your speed.
Thank you Caption (jerk off) Kanguroo.
Thank You Kingfish for asking us how the Madison Mayoral Debate video should be posted. I agree with the above people that posting by question allows us to reference individual questions. Being a Madison resident unable to attend the debate,this is a service to all interested. Thanks KF
Belhaven, Eastover, NE Jackson, County Line, Ridgeland and now "Madison. Its simply in the path of flight. Madison's heyday will last longer due to high building code standards, but it will inevitably age and people will continue wanting the newest and shiniest and coolest new place. Enjoy it while it lasts, it never does."
Pineapples will keep the barbarians at bay...."
Not true. The hot couples always swing over to the new developments.
The entire campaign, including the debate, has been civil. Wonder why Kingfish refers to it as a mudfight?
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