Jackson Jambalaya

The Republican revolution triumphed in the realm of ideas until the Bush governance got it stuck in the mud of Empire. Freedom and Empire clash. Now with the pot legalization we have a glimpse of Freedom again. If the Speaker and the President can agree on military cuts and a downsizing of foreign commitments, we can have a period of domestic freedom and growth.

Compulsory purchases of insurance policies is not freedom.

Spew the freedom line to the full-timers who are about to become part-time workers thanks to health care "reform". Don't believe me? Go ask your local dry cleaner, restauranteur, print shop, etc how they are going to handle the mandatory requirements coming down the pipe. The big companies have already started, you just didn't hear about it in the media.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/darden-restaurants-obamacare-part-time_n_1951103.html

What about compulsory purchase of auto insurance? Does that drive you crazy too? It's been in place state by state for nearly 20 years now.

What about compulsory purchase of auto insurance?

Is it compulsory to own a vehicle? LOSER.

You nailed it 10:14. Workers across our nation are about to have their hours cut to no more than 29 per week.

Now that's some discourse right there. While not compulsory, in America, it is damn near impossible to operate, make a living, carry children, etc., without owning some type of vehicle unless you live in a city that has adequate mass transit.

Sidestepping the obvious attempt to avoid the question, does it bother you that you are compelled to purchase auto insurance IF you (and you do) own a vehicle?

No sidestep. Your point is moot. There is no compulsory requirement to purchase a vehicle. That is a freedom we still enjoy.

A child drawing their first breath at any area hospital today will not be compelled upon reaching adulthood to purchase a motored vehicle or else face a tax penalty for not doing so payable ANNUALLY (using an accelerating rate schedule) to the federal government.

I can tell you must be a real bonafide freedom lover.

Your vitriol is not helpful. Pity you. Go kick a fence for a while.

to 10:22 you are not required by the state to own a car. nice try though.

Given the fact progressives tend to colonize inner city venues replete with no need for a car, plenty of art and recreation, and rental homes - why would they own a car? That's right. They don't. They mooch rides, walk or bike.

Mandatory auto insurance comparison to health insurance. Meh.

The people who voted this guy in want stuff and believe that the Dems and de-facto the Government should give it to them. Unfortunately, Dems don't know how a credit card works. If you keep spending it, you will eventually hit your limit. If you only make the minimum payment, you will be in debt for life. If you die before it is paid off, you can leave it to your kids. WAIT! I get it, no kids, so no worries. Leave the debt to society. That is selfish.

The mandatory auto insurance comparison to health insurance is such a load. Your auto insurance is supposed to protect me from you when you slam into me while talking on your Obama phone.

Well, it seems a classic apples-and-oranges comparison to me. Car insurance is based on the sensible premise that one must insure against damage to others (it's only polite, if one whams into another's vehicle, that one assume repair costs.)

But it's also possible to declare an auto "totaled"---something that should probably be done for the ol' human *corpus*, as well. If the repairs are gonna cost more than it's worth, then---welllll---bye-bye! But NOOOOOO---just try selling that notion!

If you can't afford to repair your dented car, install a new windshield, or paint the scratches, well, then, you drive it as is. So, from whence came the notion that every single breathing human being is entitled to the finest of health care, regardless of ability to pay? No society can afford that. Unfair? Well, yes, but so is most everything in life.

Next we'll probably hear the Gimme Grabbers demanding Universal Car Care.

And the Sock Monkey will get us further into debt and provide it, no doubt...

The Muslim Kenyan will be a 4-year lame duck.

No, your auto insurance includes automatic uninsured and underinsured motorist coverage to cover not only your liability to others, but the liability of those who might not have insurance for your injuries. So, it's not simply liability insurance. The point is to make sure that all auto owners have coverage to prevent injury to each other and protect ourselves.

But, pretend that you don't own a car and pretend that there's a difference in being required to purchase that insurance.

The "notion" is actually that everyone deserves healthcare, not the finest, mind you, but care that isn't insanely expensive to everyone. You always seem to forget that one of the main drivers of health cost is uninsured individuals going to ERs, etc., and then those providers passing the cost on to others to make up for the profits (if you believe that they are actually losing profits).

BS. ERs are not the main driver.

Ok. Let's clear up this misconception about mandatory auto insurance. #1: "insurance" is not mandated by any law You are only required to prove that you have the ability to pay for damages or injury to OTHER PEOPLE. You can do this by buying insurance OR by providing a letter of credit. Repeat: it is NOT mmandated that you buy an insurance policy. #2: nobody other than the person who loaned you the money to buy your car requires you to buy insurance to pay for damage to your own car. #3: your insurance policy does not "include" uninsured motorist coverage. That is an optional coverage that you must choose to purchase. Don't want to pay for? Don't buy it.
Bottom line: There is no similarity whatsoever between automobile insurance and Obama Care.

5:15...the main driver of healthcare cost is a runaway legal system that tries to make medical care workers responsible for the fact that we are all mortal beings and it's compounded by silly government regulations (like those stupid privacy notices you are required to receive every time you set foot in a medical office). If not for THESE things, health care wouldn't have to cost much. Furthermore, the uninsured COULD stop at the local Walgreens for some Tylenol and robitussin before running to the hospital emergency room every time their kids get a runny nose.

What 642 said.

Insurance of any type is a cash substitute. If you don't want to buy insurance, be sure and have plenty of cash/credit on hand. If you don't want to buy "Obamacare" show financial means (see cash/credit), pay your taxes (or insurance premiums) and be done with it.

Simple, no?

UH...it's not mandatory to go to a doctor or hospital either.
You can be a Christian Scientist and have faith that you can pray yourself well.
You can go to the herbalist and alternative forms of healers.

If you don't own a car, you don't have the benefit of driving a car.

But, if you don't have health insurance , you have the benefit of free health care while other people pay for it in increased costs when they get medical treatment.

And, in most states, unlike here, you cannot purchase or drive a car without insurance. That is why our rates are so high.

But, if you don't have health insurance , you have the benefit of free health care while other people pay for it in increased costs when they get medical treatment.

Bullshit. It isn't and either/or situation. One can self-finance medical treatment without insurance.

One can self-finance medical treatment without insurance.

Some medical treatments get real expensive real fast.

Ophelia is pretty smart.

As a doctor, no one asked me how to fix this problem, it would be simple. Make a government option, make it the base health care of the country, make it "free". Force those who enroll to only be allowed to use government care centers, clinics, hospitals, and emergency rooms. Force the enrolled to use a strict formulary of drugs and have an algorithmic approach to tests, scans, and procedures. Give these clinics and medical entities federally protected caps against lawsuits and set up a medical panel that has to review cases for merit before the are filed. Staff these entities with newly graduated doctors and give them debt forgiveness to stay and make all residents train in these settings. Have strict criteria on the use of end of life measures that are reviewed by a panel of doctors on a case by case basis. Make that the new standard of care for the terminally ill. This would have given everyone a chance to be seen by a healthcare provider and put some common sense back into the system. The private insurance companies would have eventually seen the evidence base outcomes and saving and would ultimately change for sheer economic reasons. No one asked us.