Jackson Jambalaya

Levees will never be built. The tax increases to pay for them will never be approved by voters.

GET OVER YOURSELF .. you write some pretty stupid stuff too.

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there are also scientific studies showing that gravity is invisible, which would explain why objects mysteriously fall for no apparent reason when thrown off a roof. mystery solved

You can always spot a JFP cultist liker 4:49 though they never stop to ask why Kingfish gives them more freedom to post than the bitch they lick.

HA! That was pretty funny.

I have to say, Jackson is unwilling to advance its development. I remember Atlanta 20 years ago and I find it pretty sad that Jackson is the same (with the exception of the development of Madison). Rankin continues to build at a sound pace with the growth of population and wealth. Madison is a growth monster. Jackson would benefit greatly from a large development such as this and would spur a lot of businesses BACK to Jackson. The tax base would be substantially increased and maybe even revive those areas that are quickly dying. My point of bringing up Atlanta is the reinvestment into Downtown following the Olympics. While Jackson certainly would be unwilling and unable (infrastructure) to host such an event, the politics of dozing a large swath of downtown for the future of the city was certainly unappealing to those in the suburbs b/c of drop in real estate value. City centers create the demand and people respond. Look at King Edward. I hope for this proposal to find life. It would be a great step forward for a severely depressed city.

"Severely depressed city" says it all. Jackson has become the Detroit and Gary of the south.

Ladd just posted this:
BTW, someone wrote and asked if we knew if the Corps' assertion above about the sunny day is correct. The short answer is no: that was breaking news that they said to Adam yesterday. This is what I was able to find from a quick search, which is a pretty interesting chronology. Not sure what it proves about Town Creek, but everything we can get out there for discussion is vital at this point. At least we're going to be forced to have a long-overdue community discussion about flood control now. When will this community learn that one man cannot save us!?!
APRIL PEARL RIVER FLOOD OF 1979
posted by ladd on 12/16/09 at 06:12 PM

No one ever disupted it was sunny that day. It was the fact that no one there could figure out that gee, rains do cause floods and take several days to develop. the sunshine that day had absolutely nothing to do with anything.

You are absolutely right KF. The good weather meant nothing. Ladd wasn't here. She don't know squat.

I'm sure Ladd, Lynch and the rest of the communists believe the floods occurred due to melting glaciers in North America during the late 70s brought about by man-made global warming.

Kudos to Ladd and crew with rewriting history since neither of the two so called journalists ever lived here when this took place.

All right, I zapped that one because of one little word and I'm sure you can figure out which one it was.

Hey Cochese... AKA KFish.. You got it all figured out there don't ya? 12:46am kinda tells it all........

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It boggles the mind to think that supposedly intelligent, educated people can't apply even common sense to a situation like flooding, and conclude that a sunny day in your immediate area means you'll be safe from flooding that day and the day after, etc. Even though a monsoon of biblical proportions has emptied itself into the river and its tributaries upstream, a sunny day on your end saves the day.

That just has to be a misprint. No one can be that oblivious to how things work.

While I'm at it and OT, but I just have to say that the post that Ladd made last evening at 6:12 p.m. about this contains some of the most awkwardly structured sentences I've seen lately. Especially from someone who teaches writing? It's not my intention to nitpick, but it just jumps out at me.

...some of the most awkwardly structured sentences I've seen lately. Especially from someone who teaches writing?

Maybe she was putting on her lipstick while typing....

No one has still answered the question about the pumps and paying for them.

You won't get any answers on that from the JFP KF as they need to avoid that topic since it undermines their argument that Two Lakes is far more expensive. You also won't find any discussion over there as to how they plan to pay for this $300+ million levee plan.

Well, at least JFP has concluded "that one man cannot save us!?" Who is she talking about though? Jesus or Johnson?

Or talk about the levees that will be 9 feet HIGHER than Lakeland Drive. [Think GATES when it floods across Lakeland I 55]. Also 100 yards of "scorched earth" each side of them FOREVER.

Why do people continue to push the Two Lake plan when it is proven that it puts more water on those down stream?

I'm no engineer, or anything but it would appear that increasing the height of the levee system is only going to cause more severe flooding downstream especially compared to the lake program.

A lake program would work just like the resevoir in that it allows the excess water to be "held" while it's volume is spread over a larger surface area which decreases it's vertical component. In turn that would allow for water to be released downstream at a more consistant rate.

Levees simply cause the water to have a vertical component that would make it flow faster through the levee area and be at a higher level to build up downstream causing worse flooding.

JFP shows no ability to use logic in their opinion on this. "Rising spring floodwater" in Mississippi is ONLY and DIRECTLY the result of heavy rain. The water can come from no where else.

Those that stood in the way of the 2 lakes program and lied about it's effects simply do not care about the Jackson Metro area, regardless of what they say. They are more worried that someone might make a dollar on a development instead of allowing the project's impact to stand on it's own.

This "attitude" about Jackson Metro is what continues to hold it back. Worried that one person, group or area will have some sort of success at something creates more naysayers in this area than cheerleaders.

Sad.

JFP seems to think levees will provide lovely "green" space along them for bike trails, etc. My question: WHO is going to pay for a well-manicured bike trial or wilderness? City of Jackson cannot even provide the most basic maintenance on the creek that runs near my house, and I really don't see Pearl, Flowood etc. ponying up the funds for it. In all likelihood, the levees will be permanently fenced and gated.

QB the JFP doesn't want you to know the true costs of levees because it undermines their vendetta against Mr. McGowan and the straw argument they're pumping how Two Lakes is so much more expensive than levees. Not once have they mentioned that the Corps requires a robust burrowing animal control program that eliminates all active burrowing discovered in a short period of time. Someone has to pay for that because you can't count on swiss cheese levees to stop flooding. Furthermore, trapped burrowing animals are usually euthanized as the costs to relocate far outstrip the costs to eliminate. How is that for progressive?

Trapped burrowing animals are good deep-fat fried!

Sounds like a great idea for a new 'Best of Jackson' category. Best Fried Varmit!

trapped burrowing animals will also land you in the emergency room

I agree 100% with JD Berry. There are many in this town that are jealous, vindictive, and self-serving. They don't want anything for the people that live east of I-55. They are DEFINITELY afraid that someone WILL make a dollar and they won't get to take credit for it.

Jackson Jambalaya got my vote for favorite website.

dhnichols said...

Why do people continue to push the Two Lake plan when it is proven that it puts more water on those down stream?

December 18, 2009 11:57 AM

Because it works, it doesn't push more water downtstream, you are a hick mayor of a hick town and you have a big mouth. YOU yourself are interested in a lake project for that armpit of a town you "govern".

Trashing and personal attacking. Way to go!

What kills me is the JFP will blast a plan that a great deal of benefit for Jackson and its citizens but look the other way when Jackson tries to get some interest rate swaps for its bonds so it can pay off a bunch of well connected lawyers and bond guys.

It is relevant that it was a sunny day during the flood, because Speed claimed that downtown Jackson flooding was from local creeks, not the Pearl. Hence levees without pumps would not have protected Jackson, he claimed.
http://www.mvk.usace.army.mil/offices/pp/PRWS/media/docs/PearlRiverStudy_PumpNeeds.pdf