The Broward County high school killer warned a Mississippi bail bondsman he was going to shoot up a school last fall. Nikolas Cruz made a comment on a video produced by Ben Bennight on Youtube last summer. Mr. Bennight tells the story in the video posted below. The bail bondsman contacted the FBI as he should have done. He tells his story in the video and also shows screenshots of Cruz's comments.
Thursday, February 15, 2018
Mississippi bail bondsman reported Cruz to Feds.
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Wrestling returns, except this time it will be a Battle Royal with Othor Cain, Ben Allen, Kim Wade, Haley Fisackerly, Alan Lange, and “Big Cat” Donna Ladd all in the ring at the same time. The Battle Royal will be in a steel cage, no time limit, no referee, and the losers must leave town. Marshand Crisler will be the honorary referee (as it gives him a title without actually having to do anything).
Meet KIM Waaaaaade at the Entergy Tent. For five pesos, Kim will sell you a chance to win a deed to a crack house on Ridgeway Street stuffed in the Howard Industries pinata. Don't worry if the pinata is beaten to shreds, as Mr. Wade has Jose, Emmanuel, and Carlos, all illegal immigrants, available as replacements for the it. Upon leaving the Entergy tent, fig leaves will be available in case Entergy literally takes everything you have as part of its Trollfest ticket price adjustment charge.
Donna Ladd of The Jackson Free Press will give several classes on learning how to write. Smearing, writing without factchecking, and reporting only one side of a story will be covered. A donation to pay their taxes will be accepted and she will be signing copies of their former federal tax liens. Ms. Ladd will give a dramatic reading of her two award-winning essays (They received The Jackson Free Press "Best Of" awards.) "Why everything is always about me" and "Why I cover murders better than anyone else in Jackson".
In the spirit of helping those who are less fortunate, Trollfest '09 adopts a cause for which a portion of the proceeds and donations will be donated: Keeping Frank Melton in his home. The “Keep Frank Melton From Being Homeless” booth will sell chances for five dollars to pin the tail on the jackass. John Reeves has graciously volunteered to be the jackass for this honorable excursion into saving Frank's ass. What's an ass between two friends after all? If Mr. Reeves is unable to um, perform, Speaker Billy McCoy has also volunteered as when the word “jackass” was mentioned he immediately ran as fast as he could to sign up.
In order to help clean up the legal profession, Adam Kilgore of the Mississippi Bar will be giving away free, round-trip plane tickets to the North Pole where they keep their bar complaint forms (which are NOT available online). If you don't want to go to the North Pole, you can enjoy Brant Brantley's (of the Mississippi Commission on Judicial Performance) free guided tours of the quicksand field over by High Street where all complaints against judges disappear. If for some reason you are unable to control yourself, never fear; Judge Houston Patton will operate his jail where no lawyers are needed or allowed as you just sit there for minutes... hours.... months...years until he decides he is tired of you sitting in his jail. Do not think Judge Patton is a bad judge however as he plans to serve free Mad Dog 20/20 to all inmates.
Trollfest '09 is a pet-friendly event as well. Feel free to bring your dog with you and do not worry if your pet gets hungry, as employees of the Jackson Zoo will be on hand to provide some of their animals as food when it gets to be feeding time for your little loved one.
Relax at the Fox News Tent. Since there are only three blonde reporters in Jackson (being blonde is a requirement for working at Fox News), Megan and Kathryn from WAPT and Wendy from WLBT will be on loan to Fox. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both and a torn-up Obama yard sign will entitle you to free drinks served by Megan, Wendy, and Kathryn. Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required. Just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '09 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
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If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
There will be a hugging booth where in exchange for your young son, Frank Melton will give you a loooong hug. Trollfest will have a dunking booth where Muhammed the terrorist will curse you to Allah as you try to hit a target that will drop him into a vat of pig grease. However, in the true spirit of Separate But Equal, Don Imus and someone from NE Jackson will also sit in the dunking booth for an equal amount of time. Tom Head will give a reading for two hours on why he can't figure out who the hell he is. Cliff Cargill will give lessons with his .80 caliber desert eagle, using Frank Melton photos as targets. Tackleberry will be on hand for an autograph session. KIM Waaaaaade will be passing out free titles and deeds to crackhouses formerly owned by The Wood Street Players.
If you get tired come relax at the Fox News Tent. To gain admittance to the VIP section, bring either your Republican Party ID card or a Rebel Flag. Bringing both will entitle you to free drinks.Get your tickets now. Since this is an event for trolls, no ID is required, just bring the hate. Bring the family, Trollfest '07 is for EVERYONE!!!
This is definitely a Beaver production.
Note: Security provided by INS.
48 comments:
"Professional School Shooter"
Is that a new hot new career certification you can earn online, like "Medical Assisting" and "The Music Business"?
Does Full Sail University offer a "Professional School Shooter Associate's Degree"?
Is this high on the list of professions aspired-to by today's youth? (Professional YouTuber seems to top that list, right now)
I guess the FBI was too busy with their Trump witch hunt.
"Anonymous blog poster of snarky comments" seems to be high on the list of many professionals bored with their regular jobs during the day.
Apparently, the FBI was too concerned with bringing down the President to thoroughly investigate a potential massacre.
Shame that we will now hear all the "common-sense gun safety laws" soundbites again without any concrete recommendations what that means beyond bump stocks. It does nothing to further the discussion about mental illness.
12:00 and 12:48
The FBI interviewed him. No laws were broken, so there was nothing else they could do. I don't know....maybe we should give the FBI some method to handle this. But it would likely interfere with the right for everyone, even the mentally ill, to bear arms.
Dead school children are the price of FREEDOM! Remember that liberty is watered by the blood of patriot's children.
According to the buzzfeed article, think the only person interviewed was the guy who reported it.
Kudos to him for reporting it. I'm fairly certain this is being investigated further because it will go toward the element of premeditation when they prosecute him.
FBI was much too busy investigating how many scoops of ice cream Trump eats.
That big investigation along with the big catsup investigation does not leave them with much manpower to investigate something as common as a school shooting.
Time to arm teachers, or allow those who wish to carry to be allowed to do so. Perhaps a lot less dead if several staff and teachers were allowed to target this psychopath downrange the second they heard gunfire in a school.
When did we become a nation of victims? 1990s?
This piece of dung just murdered 17 probably innocent people. His public defender already saying that he is "broken" and "remorseful".
Give me an effing break!
I do not in any way care that he came from hard times; that his mom died; or whatever has befallen this piece of shift. Those things happen to many, if not most people.
We will now be pummeled with seemingly endless gun control agitprop while the real problem of societal fecklessness and victim-hood grants are overlooked.
And the FBI does not look too good either.
So, 15,000,000 public high school students. This kid is not even in school anymore. There are 22,000 public high school students. And this jerk made a non specific "threat" to a blogger 3 states away and doesn't even own a car.
Which waiver do "the Feds" get for FERPA? For ADA? For him being a minor and accessing those records? Which 2nd Amendment waiver do they get for banning a non committed non criminal 19 year old from owning an AR15 in Florida which has a constitutional right to own?
And this is the FBI's fault?
How about having Uber teach its drivers that weirdos getting a ride dressed in black to a school at 2 PM carrying black duffel bags don't "look good either."
Or how about we just lock up nutty guys with ARs? It'll be like The Rapture. Half of Duck Hill and all of Pelahatchie will be ghost towns. That's the answer! Deer camp will be all mine!!! Bwahahahaha.
Waiting to hear the Learned-Catfish opine further on mental illness and how we 'deal with' the 1/3 of the adult population that's on psychotropic drugs or already hospitalized for such illnesses. Short of stationing a federal marshal outside each of their windows, what's the answer? Oh....what am I thinking? Of course we need to 'keep an eye on them'.....
@5:01, the FBI didn't have to investigate 15 million high school students. They only had to investigate this tip. And they 'partially' did. Any half-assed effort would have easily led them to this guy, wherein they would have also discovered he had purchased an AR-15 legally about 6 months prior to that, and that he had made other similar remarks on his youtube and facebook accounts, and that the school had recently or was about to expel him. This had red flags all over it, and was perhaps the easiest profile ever. What angers me is the FBI spokesman's spin that their "investigation" did not lead them to identify the guy who posted under his real name, a very uncommon name btw. Watch the song and dance for yourself: https://youtu.be/FBViMrr3ZzY
I'm very pro law enforcement but this is not a good look for thee FBI. someone dropped the ball big time imo.
The FBI just plain sucks...they require a PhD in nuclear physics, a law degree from Harvard and the ability to speak Mandarin Chinese just to get hired as an agent. No more blocking and tackling investigative professionals who roll their sleeves up and get after the hard, in the trenches work required. They aren't behind the scenes anymore but are focused on doing geo-political witch hunts and trying to get into the overseas counter terrorism business.
... the 1/3 of the adult population that's on psychotropic drugs or already hospitalized for such illnesses ...
Link?
@6:07 he didn't use a AR-15.
Didn't we just witness a Mississippi politican wave a hand gun in the state capital. What hope do poor school children have keeping guns out of the classroom?
Obviously the FBI, must continue investigating Trump and Russian interference in our elections. They followed up and as the guy verified he wasn't much help. These kind of threats and others happen every day.
Every body wants to say the guy was mentally ill. Where are they getting this from? Face the facts he was a Trump groupie as evidenced by his Instagram account and in contact with a white supremacists group. Adopted folks lose their parents every day, and they don't got out and commit mass murder.
My daughter is 18, if she gets a Concealed Carry Permit can she bring it to Ridgeland High School?
Hero, here is a link explaining why only someone with no law enforcement or legal experience is going to blame the FBI. YOU TUBE won't give out ANY info without a subpoena. Call Silicon Valley and complain about them. No judge is going to give one to an Agent based on no crime being committed. It's not a prosecutable crime to say, without any other context, that you "are going to be a 'professional school shooter' on a blog 3 states away. It's not a credible or specific threat. Courts have held over and over it's not enough. So, go blame the local Law Enforcement who went 39 TIMES to the house. Did they "do enough?" Did the schools who expelled the kid do enough? Did the NRA and ACLU both ensure that nutjobs like him can get an AR? Yep. And I own 25 guns, lifetime shooter and soldier and cop. Cops can't lock up psychos who love guns and act vaguely threatening. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/fbis-near-brush-with-suspect-in-fla-school-shooting-draws-scrutiny/2018/02/15/e4d09b92-1275-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_floridawarnings-935pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.905c2edde09c
I call BS. The FBI said they couldn’t find him. Evidently they didn’t look very hard. I agree that they couldn’t arrest him based on the post but certainly could have interviewed him and perhaps dissuaded him from his plans. Maybe made a determination that he was too mentally unstable to own a firearm. But to say they couldn’t find him when they had his name and it wasn’t John Smith is BS.
You right wingers kill me calling gun control talk in the wake of yet another mass shooting “politicizing the issue” or “agitprop,” as above. Your right to bear arms can flex just a little to help reduce the number of assault rifles on the market. It won’t 100% fix this problem, but every reduction of risk we can reasonably accomplish, while still respecting your rights, is absolutely worth it. But it’s not even worth engaging you lunatics in dialogue on this. There is no reaching you. If we didn’t do anything after Sandy Hook, it’s never going to happen. You people accept this. You are willing to live with it, all for the sake of thumbing your nose at liberals or the thrill of firing a gun.
What we have here is a catastrophic failure of empathy. Being a citizen involves making modest sacrifices for the common good.
Define 'assault rifle' 11:04.
@7:02 - You asked for a link to my claim that a third of America's adult population are taking these drugs. I used the figure one-third off the top of my head. Actually the results of the study cited below uses the figure of 22% but that doesn't cover illegal use (street purchases, mail order, family medicine cabinets, etc. And it doesn't cover the people institutionalized or hospitalized already as a result of or after taking these meds which I included in my 1/3 claim).
But, you'll have an immediate reason to disavow either figure, won't you? Either you won't like the woman who wrote the article, won't like the methodology used in the study or will bitch about it being based on 2016 data.
"The results showed that 12 percent of adults reported antidepressant use; 8.3 percent reported filling prescriptions for anxiolytics, sedatives and hypnotics; and 1.6 percent reported taking antipsychotics."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/psychiatric-drugs-study-reveals-widespread-use-women-men/
The FBI simply didn't investigate.
The kid's name was on the profile, an investigator did not need to have any data from youtube.
Look how quickly bloggers and whatnot were able to dig up info on the kid the day of the shooting, simply by searching his name. The FBI's explanation that there wasn't enough information to track him down doesn't wash.
It is such sad days that we live in where everyone else is to blame except those directly involved, with anything. To further that, we must try to control the 99.9% because we think that will keep the .1% from doing harm.
As intelligent as human beings have become, logic is eroded the larger a group becomes.
Would those of you who are NRA supporters please explain to me why NRA is against the following?:
1.Banning gun sales to those on the terrorist watch list.
2.Banning gun sales to those convicted of a violent crime?
3.Banning gun sales or even creating a list of those with a history
of mental illness with violent ideations?
4.Banning gun sales to those convicted of domestic abuse or who have a protective order issued against them?
5. Support the new legislation that a gun license is like a driver's license and should be recognized by all states, even though there are no tests given to obtain a gun license?
I understand why you may think assault weapons are necessary for home protection and why you might like rifle range shooting for one, but why does NRA oppose laws to limit use to home and range and ammunition and the gun can't be together during transport?
We can start with those but my list is longer. I'm hoping for a rational discussion.
Cops can't lock up psychos who love guns and act vaguely threatening
Is that what you call it when a person kills 17 people?
What does it take for you to remove the VAGUELY?
Cops had responded to this boy's house some 30 times already. You can't lock people up for screaming or for flipping off a relative and taking a crap in the hallway of his own house. And if you could, he'd be released within 48 hours.
Face it...this country is saturated with people on drugs, both legal and illegal, and half of you promote the concept of victimization, getting even, demanding your rights, hating on people who don't resemble you, protesting and confrontation. What the Fark do you expect?
But let's blame it on guns.
Even when it's predominantly white on white crime in these mass shootings, the NRA and their supporters won't give an inch.
For all of you people just looking for someone to blame for this tragic act, look no more.
Wray of the FBI has admitted the FBI failed to do their job. They didn't do any investigation and never passed on the info about the killer.
Like it or not, congress is going to have to give authorities more power to stop this. The FBI is overwhelmed as are other agencies with these types of threats. They don't act because there are no consequences. So why jump on it with both feet. A special needs student got on face book today and threatened my school district. Local folks were called and they called the FBI. FBI turned it over to the school. School expelled student. Sound familiar? When congress grants more authority they are going to have to hold law enforcement's feet to the fire. First amendment people are going to scream but this is the time we live in.
Yeah the FBI admitted it dropped the ball. I am sure you also read that the NRA contributed more than 10k to his high school for marksmanship training, but they have no comment.
Looks like the FBI was busy with that Russian elections meddling case...13 individuals and three companies indicted, that's HUGE!
12:45, if the FBI would get out of the political business and go back to what they are supposed to do they might not need more power. The FBI is too deep into electing presidents to find time to do much else.
1:53, They indicted people from other countries for election meddling here in the U.S.
Wonder how many politicians here in the U.S. we will see turning themselves in for meddling in the elections of other countries?
Yeah, this little nut case was trained to shoot at his high school under a program sponsored by the NRA and folks are blaming the FBI..go figure.
Get on you tube and face book and read all the hate and veiled threats toward people. Congress can shut it down. First amendment shouldn't cover that. The FBI is lazy and DOES NOT have the man power to cover all of that. I will see comments on here that should be investigated. You tube and face book should be way more pro active.
"Yeah, this little nut case was trained to shoot at his high school under a program sponsored by the NRA....."
Pure bullshit...but you knew it when you typed it. Meanwhile, you got a high five from Donder.
I see no one defended selling guns to those in the list at 8:33 am so why do so many of you support the NRA who holds these position and quote them or rephrase their positions?
There are many solutions between no guns and everyone gets a gun. My father had his drivers license taken away when he became blind but no one could take his gun ? My neighbor's mother had dementia and threatened others but my friend couldn't get rid of her mother's gun nor could the police and the psychiatrist said his diagnosis of dementia with paranoia was a medical evaluation and not a competency evaluation and refused to release his records or testify?
The thing is not even the FBI could have gotten the court to involuntarily commit the shooter.
8:28 who is Donder?? If you took time to listen to something other than Fox and Super Talk you might know that the kid participated in a NRA sponsored marksmanship course while he was in school.
Now we find out that the FBI ignore another warning about the killer coming from a source much closer to him.
Someone needs to tell the FBI to get back to their original purpose and forget about catsup and ice cream.
6:40, come on. It should be easy to take the gun away from a blind man or a person with dementia. One could not see who it was who took the gun or where they put it and the other would forget about the whole thing in a few minutes.
Get a grip on reality.
8:03 - Donder is Donna Ladd, but you already knew that. It's self-absorbed leftists like YOU who try to blame the situation on guns and the NRA. You're also the kind who piss and moan about people having access to firearms who have not been properly trained in their use.
And you moan about kids finding a weapon at home and accidentally discharging it because they don't know how to use it. But, then you want to moan about high schoolers being taught how to properly respect and handle weapons. Make up your damned feeble mind.
And while you're reeling at me in disgust,consider the fact that the NRA was only a minimal part of the grant-program that this school participated in. Will you blame the military for the shooting as well or do you just retain a boner for the NRA? Surely we all know the military is interested in teaching ROTC participants how to shoot up the school.
From an article on the school's NRA grant:
"The more than 1,700 high school JROTC programs nationally also receive financial support from the U.S. military and are typically supervised by retired officers from the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. The military collaborates with school systems on the training curriculum, which includes marching drills, athletic competitions and shooting teams."
Oh, but you acted like you didn't know the facts, so who is the real hypocrite 10:30. Who is Donna Ladd and what does she have to do with this conversation?
we need to start looking at the root cause of mental illness and attack that. Too many meds on the market are prescribed to help folks cope with life. This crap didn’t happen when we were growing up and you never heard about shit like this happening. Our bodies were not designed for the drugs that are legal or illegal and it’s affecting generations of people. The enemy is winning, but we can at least stop and confront this issue of mental illnesses. Not all are created by drugs.
All you who continually chirp about lack of attention to mental illness issues - please state your case for how a society could, can or should deal with those who are labeled as having a psychological issue.
Who do we lock up and on what basis? Who do we assign a 'watch' to? Who gets court ordered supervision and intervention? Which ones are restricted to their house? How do you suggest we mandate counseling and treatment? Which ones are not allowed in public spaces? What uniform do we put on them or do we dot their foreheads so the public will be aware of their danger to us all? How do we keep them from buying bad stuff like drugs and guns and knives and box cutters and automobiles?
And while you're laying out your thesis, remember that these people you mention range in age from thirteen to ninety.
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