Friday, September 20, 2024

Gregg Gets Life

 The jury in the Carly Gregg case has returned after deliberating less than two hours.  Watch the reading of the verdict as it is live streamed below.  

* Judge Arthur threatened to slap anyone who commits an outburst in the courtroom with 30 days in jail.

* Gregg has been crying as she waited for the verdict. Heath Smiley sits stoically. 

*   The jury finds Carly Gregg guilty of First-Degree Murder, Attempted Murder, and Tampering with Evidence. 

* State and defense present no witnesses for sentencing. 

* The jury will now determine Gregg's sentence.

* Assistant District Attorney Kathryn Newman recommended sentencing Gregg to life in prison without the possibility of parole.  Newman said she lived in a "loving home" and had every advantage possible for a child her age.  "Her home life was a perfect home life," said Newman. 

"She murdered someone and attempted to murder someone," continued the prosecutor.  "She has shown zero remorse for what she has done."  

* Kevin Camp took up the cause for his client. "This is the most difficult thing I've ever had to do," said Camp.  Camp points out Gregg's age when the murder took place.  Gregg's maternal grandparents are sitting in support of her as his her stepfather, Heath Smiley.  Camp asked the jury to let Judge Arthur sentence Gregg instead of giving her life in prison. 

*Gregg cried on Todd's shoulder as the jury left the room for more deliberation.

* The jury sentenced Gregg to two life terms that will run concurrently.  




74 comments:

Anonymous said...

that is what's called a 12 flush verdict................the jury was out long enough for all to go to the bathroom , then arrive at a unanimous verdict on all counts on the first vote.

Anonymous said...

Not a single tear during the trial, but her eyes are flooded at a guilty verdict. I was a LEO many years ago and I have dealt with true evil, but this case has me dumbfounded.

Anonymous said...

Great job Kathryn and everyone at DA’s office, and all LEOs. Superb work.

Anonymous said...

may of the courtroom spectators are sitting there with a look on their face which says ''this is not the way it works on TV!''

Anonymous said...

Enjoy prison, evil girl!!

Anonymous said...

All that $ wasted on the defense team. Should have took the plea.

Anonymous said...

Mississippi has a narrow patch to "Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity". She made a hard life for herself and all of those involved. She deserves mental help, sympathy, but also incarceration. There really was no other verdict other than Guilty. However, the odds are high that this gets a second look and re-trial due to the incompetence of her attorneys. It will be coming in hot to the MS Court of Appeals. Hope Lynn's crew is up for the challenge.

Anonymous said...

She would have faired better by hiring a TV lawyer than Camp and Todd. Two clowns I tell you!

Anonymous said...

naw it wasn't just a bathroom and break then vote. They got lunch then found her guilty.

Anonymous said...

What a defense attorney, she will be one well known lawyer in her future, hopefully in Mississippi! Job well done, Camp didn’t have any emotion the whole week he was too busy checking his phone, and for Ms Todd who tried to take out def attorney yesterday, where in the hell did she go to law school, much less how many times did she sit to pass the bar!

Anonymous said...

Overturned on appeal. 100%.

Anonymous said...

Where is Carly's biological father in all of this? Why is he absent?

Anonymous said...

Gregory was a 14 year old child at the time of the murder. How/why does our judicial system try a child as an adult?

Anonymous said...

Judge Arthur is a real judge, not funny business like thousands of others. Hope he ends up on the SCOTUS.

Anonymous said...

So the dead mother parents and the dad told her not to cut a plea deal. And got her the worst attorneys around. Instead 35-40 yrs she got life. The whole family is crazy.

Kingfish said...

Ironically, if she was a poor black defendant in Hinds County with the same crime and circumstances, she would get decent representation from the overworked public defenders. They might be drowning in dockets, but they know how to meet deadlines and read discovery.

Anonymous said...

Wait, the stepfather supported her? Is that true?

Anonymous said...

I meant PROSECUTOR ATTORNEY, SORRY

Anonymous said...

When the child commits adult crimes.

Anonymous said...

Someone above me asked where her biological father was during the trial. He is a diagnosed schizophrenic. The best thing they could have done - one of the very few things her defense team did that made sense - was to keep him away from the trial. I have really mixed feelings about it. From testimony, she had always been afraid she was going to be like her real father - an absolute crazy person. I think she wound up a habitual drug user (Marijuana) and when her mom found out (Duh) the mom took her dope away and thirty minutes later, the girl shot and killed her mom, then not too long after that, she shot her stepfather, who it seems she got along with. Go figure that out. I guess it falls under the "You always try to kill the ones you love." This was one really messed up kid.

Anonymous said...

No doubt many of the bloodthirsty commenters here are disappointed that the prosecution isn't seeking death for the then 14, now 15 year-old. She led the "perfect home life" but somehow, inexplicably, turned out to be an "evil girl". Y'all are pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Bathroom break, lunch, AND selecting a foreman.

Anonymous said...

Don't think marijuana does that. Maybe a proclivity inherited from her real father, and/or whatever she was prescribed. So sad.

Anonymous said...

September 20, 2024 at 1:54 PM
Delusional. Bad defense won't get her appeal. Her defense would have to have committed something like a Brady violation for that to happen.

Anonymous said...

September 20, 2024 at 2:07 PM
Well, Little Timmy, when someone commits a heinous crime like cold blooded murder the State can decide to charge someone as an adult.

https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/juvenile-tried-as-an-adult.html

>As previously mentioned, a juvenile can be charged as an adult when they turn 18 years of age in most states. However, some states may impose a younger or older age limit depending upon the crime that a minor committed. Some examples of crimes that may result in a juvenile being charged and tried as an adult criminal defendant include:

- Serious felony offenses or violent crimes, such as first-degree murder, rape, armed robbery, drug trafficking, and so forth;
- Criminal acts that are classified as wobbler crimes under a particular state criminal statute; and
- Criminal offenses that a minor repeatedly commits and for which rehabilitation programs or a juvenile detention center has failed to prevent from recurring.

Anonymous said...

While I grieve for the innocent mother who lost her life, I could not watch any of the video because of the poor, confused family dogs.

This generation is something with their sense of entitlement! They demand and expect the best of everything, or else.

Anonymous said...

"Wait, the stepfather supported her? Is that true? "

Seems unlikely, given that she shot him after she shot her mom.

Seems nice said...

She was likely over medicated, just like so many other kids around the country.

Anonymous said...

Don’t waste your time on an appeal. That video shows clearly she shot that woman. I don’t know how more clear a 2 hour jury verdict could be.

And she needs another 20 years for putting the dogs through that.

No one wants to ask - what’s up with the crazy eyed step dad whispering to her in court? She killed his wife and shot him. Now he’s a fan? Something if very odd.

Anonymous said...

The stepfather was all google eye in court whispering to the defendant. What’s up with that? She shot him!

Anonymous said...

The mental health system is back in the stone age. Putting a 15 year old in jail for life. Just plain wrong.

Anonymous said...

@3:17

there is nothing stone age about this. I once heard a psychologist on some tv show say "if you are that crazy we shouldnt let you go outside" , and that is 100 percent the case here. Do you want this woman living next door to or even WITH you? i sure as hell dont, she shot her MOM IN THE FACE THREE TIMES.

Anonymous said...

The child should have not done what she did, actions have consequences. Do you think she should have been let go because of her age?

Anonymous said...

Death penalty not needed. She got what she deserved. I am not disappointed but kinda surprised the justice system actually worked.

Anonymous said...

No, she is being punished for the crime she committed. She had a choice not to pull the trigger. She chose to kill, she is where she deserves.

Anonymous said...

This is an important question, 2:01 p.m. We have a juvenile justice system for a reason, and she is a child, not an adult. She is 100% guilty and should be punished, but trying a child "as an adult" should not be an option.

Anonymous said...

@3:17 Would you prefer that she come live with you?

Anonymous said...

"The mental health system is back in the stone age. Putting a 15 year old in jail for life." I agree, the Mental Health system in MS is in the stone age. Putting a 15 yo in prison for murder is Law and not in the stone age. Wonder what you really would say if a loved one of yours was rotting away under the ground due to a 15 year old's action.

Anonymous said...

I’ve posted it here many times, and most usually my comment is deleted for some — or no — reason: No good comes out of the use of weed.

Anonymous said...

I’m with 1:54; where did Ms. Todd get her law degree?

Anonymous said...

Very true, and thus the documentary "Reefer Madness."

Anonymous said...

I totally agree. Pot becomes the most important thing in a person’s life when they get addicted to it. It becomes their “god”. We have seen what happened when she was confronted about her pot use.

Anonymous said...

It's just a sad deal all around no matter how you slice it. A 15 year old with consecutive life sentences. Damn. That's hard to even fathom. The other "life sentences" will be the memories carried by her "defense team" making bank for their "services". That's a weight I sure couldn't carry.

Anonymous said...

I agree with weed being an intro into drugs, no matter the age. The jury, Judge Dewey and Prosecution Kathryn Newman all deserve to be commended as this was a no win either way. I fully believe the jury took it to task in reaching a verdict considering society and welfare of the public. I cannot imagine similar juries who have thought rehabilitation was an option to see a prisoner paroled and yet murder again. One note to consider is many LIFE INSURANCE policies do NOT pay under circumstances of MURDER! The families money maybe dwindling now. Wonder if the house was used as collateral. Wish the plea deal had been considered! This was such a heinous crime! Thank you jury and all of the court for your extreme professionalism! You are God’s chosen and good and faithful servants!

Anonymous said...

To all the arm-chair attorneys here on JJ that say this is prime for overturning on appeal, due to the incompetence of her attorneys, you miss the point of that appeal basis. Yes, her attorneys did multiple things that showed their incompetence - but none of them affected the outcome of the case; none of them affected the jury verdict.

All the incompetent things that you have seen here in the videos, or read about on JJ or elsewhere, occurred OUTSIDE the vision of the jury. The jury was not aware of any of the discovery violations; the jury was not aware of the failure of the defense attorneys to find an expert until the last minute, and then the best they could find (with the facts and client that they had) was less then ideal with his testimony. The jury did not hear the stupid argument Todd made claiming a Brady violation.

To win an appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel requires that the stupidity of one's attorneys actually affected the outcome. In this case, it certainly grated on the Judge's nerves, but Arthur did a great job of not letting it show through in his handling of the case.

My $2 bet is going to be that the JNOV, and the following appeal on ineffective assistance both fail. The question will be that during the next 60 to 80 years, what laws might change that might allow her to be released other than a medical condition during her old age.

Sorry step-dad, but at least now you can move on with your life, sans your loving wife. She won't be a burden on you any longer, she's now the burden of the state's taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

To all the folks here claiming that trying a 15 year old as an adult it stone age; that the mental health system is broke; that the criminal justice system is wrong to sentence a 15 year old to prison for life.

This 15 year old is a white, female, good family, smart, kid. Is this the basis for your sympathy? Would you feel the same way if the person found guilty and sentenced was a young black male member of a gang in West Jackson who shot a neighbor over a drug deal gone bad?

Same age - just different demographic; different location; different sex.

Or should that young gang-banger be treated as a child and turned loose on society once he reached adulthood?

Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you have DUI lawyers attempting to mount an insanity defense. An experienced criminal defense attorney would've sat the family down told them the facts of life - accept the plea deal or find other counsel.

Anonymous said...

Conservative old white guy here who hates the overused racism cries, but I bet half the people defending her on here would say something completely different if this kid was a young black kid.
So many folks see a white girl and want leniency.
I have a feeling that if a 15 year old black guy in Jackson murdered your loved one you'd be feeling real' different. You have an internal bias to give this little monster the benefit of the doubt.
Fair is fair, and I would want ANYONE who did this locked up for life. I am so glad justice was served.

Anonymous said...

Have you people ever smoked weed? Alcohol is the gateway drug to weed. Alcohol makes some people violent. Weed doesn’t. Alcohol leads to bar fights. Weed doesn’t. Weed is not addictive. Alcohol is. The biggest downside to weed is it makes daily users lazy. Go to a rec weed store in a state where it’s legal. It’s a bunch of boomers.

Kingfish said...

Yup. Let's do it like in DC where two teen POS girls killed in cold blood a cab driver and laughed about it. Because they were juvies, they serve til they are 21 when the slates will be wiped clean and they go free. I bet that's what you want, isn't it? The video doomed her. The shrink wasn't going to get around that video.

I was surprised the defense didn't postpone sentencing nor did any of the family members speak up before sentencing. I expected Carly to say something when she had the chance but it did not happen.

Anonymous said...

@5:29 PM Get your facts straight. Weed has and does make some people psychotic.

Anonymous said...

Remember Dylan Butler the Dedmon boy and others who murdered the Blackman on Hwy 80 in Jackson, along with Luke Woodham. The big difference is Ashley was a great mother not letting Carly out at all hours of the night. Many of the others had more problems after release. Luke is in jail for life & parole has been denied. This jury did their job. Kevin Camp did also, s he abided by the family wishes! This was a hard week and there are no winners. RIP Ashley!

Anonymous said...

Yep and not convinced Camp didn’t use delays to help slow process down thinking he could sway the jury. Great job reporting KF!

Common sense said...

5:29 nailed it

Anonymous said...

5:29 - as 5:45 said, get your facts straight. Alcohol is not a gateway to weed, and I've got almost 60 years of experience that says you are wrong.

Weed is addictive (just as alcohol can be, as can many other things - coffee, sweets, and 18 year old scotch - well, most any scotch over 7, but who's worried about details).

Yes, it can make one lazy, but a 14 year old that has only been using for a month (or so she says) already toking four or so times a day - along with a few other pills sounds like she is well on her way to addiction. Granted, going to have to do different tricks in order to keep that habit up once she gets moved a few miles west down Interstate 20, but I'm sure she will find a way to keep up the habit she seemed to enjoy when sneaking out of the house.

Anonymous said...

Free Carly! She is obviously clinically insane…

Anonymous said...

Anyone watching the trial knows Gregg is going to get an appeal. She will get a lesser sentence when the dust settles.

1962guy said...

Maybe some of the other 15 year old's out there will realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. Do the crime, get the time.

Anonymous said...

I was gonna comment on JJ but then I got high
I was gonna compose a post but then I got high
I’ve never touched the keyboard and you know why
Cause I got high, because I got high, because I got high…

Anonymous said...

"It's just a sad deal all around no matter how you slice it. A 15 year old with consecutive life sentences."

Please pay attention. She was not sentenced to consecutive life sentences. She was sentenced to concurrent sentences. If you don't know the difference, try Google.

Anonymous said...

Let's dig her mother up & ask if she would want to see her daughter live the rest of her life in a stinking, cesspool called a Mississippi prison. The answer would be loud "NO".

Anonymous said...

Money wasted on a defense team? She has no money. This was a defender looking to build a rep. Didn’t work. But why not shoot craps when there is nothing to lose?

Anonymous said...

"Let's dig her mother up & ask if she would want to see her daughter live the rest of her life in a stinking, cesspool called a Mississippi prison. The answer would be loud 'NO.'"

And you know this...how?

Anonymous said...

I can't verify this, but I have it on good authority that Todd and Camp took this case pro bono.

Also, my understanding of the defense expert's testimony was that, in a person with Bipolar II, antidepressants can trigger a manic episode, which they allege happened here. I don't think anybody argued the weed did it, unless I missed it.

Followup to 5:29: Weed also makes people stupid. Let's face it, a lot of people don't have the excess intellectual capacity to spare.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure she wouldn't - but if you could dig her up and ask her, then poor little girl wouldn 't be facing this life sentence. Mama didn't want this at all - it was poor lill' ol' Carley that 'wanted' it.

And, not all the "mississippi prisons are "stinking cesspools" - but regardless, that was the life this child asked for, and thanks to a jury that didn't buy her memory loss for that hour, she will get to test out several of them over the next few decades.

4:52 in reply to 8:12 said...

Yes, I misread concurrent for consecutive. My bad. Now, when it comes to multiple life sentences, you tell us what difference that makes.

Anonymous said...

"Let's dig her mother up & ask if she would want to see her daughter live the rest of her life in a stinking, cesspool called a Mississippi prison. The answer would be loud 'NO'."

From what little I saw, that sounds like what the "defense" would use as the first issue on appeal.

Anonymous said...

Yeah 9:37, let's ask the mom. Oh wait, we can't can we? Why,? Because she took 3 bullets to the head and if little Carly was a better shot the dad couldn't be supporting her either could he?

Anonymous said...

It's the mother's fault for keeping an unsecured gun in the home. If the gun was in a gun safe the rebellious crazy daughter couldn't get her hands on it. So, you gun lovers out there put you guns under lock & key.
Would that argument stand on appeal?

Anonymous said...

Several ways an appeal can take shape. Will they seek to overturn the verdict, will they cite a reason for granting a new trial, etc. Should be interesting to see.

Anonymous said...

Yes for all of you feeling sorry for Carly then why wasn’t Heath charged for contributing to allowing a 14 yo access to a firearm? That is the hardest thing about allof this. Just like Ethan Crumbley’s parent were charged.

Anonymous said...

Let’s be grateful that she didn’t get mad at friends /teachers and take that gun to school. Lock up your guns!

Anonymous said...

"Would that argument stand on appeal?"

This is Mississippi. You can wear a brace of Glocks walking down the street (and there is nothing inherently wrong with that, but...). Anyway, no, probably not.

Anonymous said...

Where will Carly be housed now Rankin County or Parchman?


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