tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post845742666372654267..comments2024-03-29T05:32:54.378-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Today's health care bill update:Kingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-12937675221336527052010-04-01T09:43:09.175-05:002010-04-01T09:43:09.175-05:00Oh, you are just a racist Paul. ;-)Oh, you are just a racist Paul. ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-55277591642864825582010-04-01T09:30:47.677-05:002010-04-01T09:30:47.677-05:00Anon 8:03, thanks for the lesson in "insuranc...Anon 8:03, thanks for the lesson in "insurance." I have made it to 45 years old and running my own business, "insuring" others without knowing all that.<br /><br />By the way, I still do not consider your pre-paid medical program to be insurance.<br /><br />But, leftists always think that others are too stupid to know what those leftists "know." And those leftists are always wrong in everything they believe.<br /><br />FORCED to cover your children until they TURN 27? Only an dimbulb would think that is a good idea.Paul Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07825674914008378242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-61620047991825871622010-04-01T08:16:59.802-05:002010-04-01T08:16:59.802-05:00You are so convinced of your own expertise you'...You are so convinced of your own expertise you've become delusional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-72530654064617195792010-04-01T08:11:34.337-05:002010-04-01T08:11:34.337-05:00This bill gets us closer to having coverage to con...This bill gets us closer to having coverage to consumers that is available to government employees because FINALLY, small gruops will be able to POOL together. THAT has been a huge advantage these guys had that we did not.<br /><br />There's stuff NOT there. Unfortunately, a side effect of all the " agin it" folks who keyed in on the wrong stuff, led to " compromises" to get support that were favorable to the insurance industry.<br /><br />Between lobbying and political games, YOU the taxpayer gets screwed OVER AND OVER because the lobbyists and politicians DEPEND on YOU not doing your homework. They DEPEND on being able to use slogans and catch phrases to PLAY YOU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-80163796151610055912010-04-01T08:03:26.472-05:002010-04-01T08:03:26.472-05:00PAUL, do you not know how insurance works?
My ch...PAUL, do you not know how insurance works? <br /><br />My children couldn't be covered under our employer's plan anymore once they finished school. I stayed with the same insurance company as choices were limited to plans available in this state.<br /><br />INDIVIDUAL coverage cost more than GROUP coverage. The larger the GROUP , the less the premium. Mom and Pops get screwed on this as do professional groups. IF they could ever have POOLED...like all clothing stores pooled into one group, it'd have been cheaper. But, the industry had fought THAT or going across state lines for years.<br /><br /><br />That is a why a large corp like GE has better coverage for it's employees than a Mom and Pop and pays LESS for each employee and each employee pays LESS for better coverage. Since GE operates in every state, it can also buy coverage in a state with the cheapest rates and best coverage.<br /><br />You are also limited in what insurance companies operate in your state. I am a member of USAA but couldn't buy their HEALTH plan, only their AUTO and LIFE plans.<br /><br />I am now on BC/BS with a larger company. Same supposed level of policy ( best offered) and yet my copays are lower and my coverage MUCH greater , including airflight home from any place I become ill.<br /><br />I'm surprised so many people don't seem to know about their insurance policies.<br /><br />Mississippians have always been screwed on insurance of all types, including health, because we always elected an Insurance Commissioner who was a part of the industry. Alabama had a consumer oriented commissioner who got them better deals.<br /><br />We keep electing Insurance Commissioners based on how fun they are at parties or their politic party . There is never a discussion of INSURANCE or competence to negotiate on our behalf.<br /><br />Paul, I can't believe you missed knowing this stuff...leave it to the wife or secretary or your buddy the insurance agent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-75024369394998700462010-04-01T07:57:57.684-05:002010-04-01T07:57:57.684-05:00If your children are healthy young adults then why...If your children are healthy young adults then why are you insuring their health at all? You could have taken that $850 monthly and set it aside (banked) only for the rare event (per you) that they became ill. $1000 deductible? Big deal. You act as if insurance is some kind of piggy bank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-19815260219268258932010-04-01T07:44:46.877-05:002010-04-01T07:44:46.877-05:006:15, you shouldn't help me pay.
The insurance...6:15, you shouldn't help me pay.<br />The insurance industry forced me to buy NEW coverage that was more expensive. <br />Neither child's risk or costs changed from the day of graduation from college to the day after graduation. Nor did their employers WITH our contribution have to pay that much for our coverage.<br /><br />You will STILL not be paying anything. <br /><br />The only thing different is that your child's coverage will continue until they have a job that covers them or they can buy their own or until age 26, whichever comes first.<br /><br />THINK. If my child goes to college, that child is covered until age 22 anyway. If your child graduates from high school and gets a job, their coverage stops at 18. If we work for the same company and make have the same premiums, then a secretary whose child doesn't go to college is paying for coverage for her boss' child to go to college as they are on the same plan.<br /><br />This section is ONLY about continued insurance coverage.<br /><br />IF there is any cost to the taxpayer, it will be in premiums increasing and THAT'S where you start looking at other sections.<br /><br />One of things I DON'T like about this bill is that while it stops sleazy insurance practices that developed over the last several decades that were based ONLY on profit and NOT on risk, it doesn't do enough ( thanks to lobbying) to make sure the insurance industry doesn't just gouge.<br /><br />Sorta like all the credit card companies that made things worse for the consumer in anticipation of that new law. Congress didn't make it apply to existing accounts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-63433174699661432222010-03-31T21:25:02.148-05:002010-03-31T21:25:02.148-05:00Shout out to State Street Posts!Shout out to State Street Posts!KaptKangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205368935149517936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-44469600603356388862010-03-31T21:14:54.833-05:002010-03-31T21:14:54.833-05:00Ah, I see the entitled rich folks showed up. Good...Ah, I see the entitled rich folks showed up. Good to see. Let me begin with you make too much money to be entitled to anything other than what you earn. And, for those "poor slobs" you make money off of (those that tea-baggers would rather the insurance companies not cover and subject them to "death penalties"); I say, sir, do unto yourself as you do unto them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-12700556115718349382010-03-31T20:32:14.679-05:002010-03-31T20:32:14.679-05:00Kingfish, will you add a label to this series of p...Kingfish, will you add a label to this series of posts for ease of linking to other sites?Paul Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07825674914008378242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-31109377540058481172010-03-31T18:15:28.560-05:002010-03-31T18:15:28.560-05:00My costs doubled...$360 with a $1000 deductible fo...<i>My costs doubled...$360 with a $1000 deductible for the first and 3years later $490 for the second grad. That's per MONTH.<br />NO WAY either would or did need it, but IN CASE one of them ran into the Irbys and lived, I had to cover my bets.</i><br /><br />So why should we help you pay your bills? Why should anyone be forced to subsidize your finances?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-76091638479276400142010-03-31T18:09:20.096-05:002010-03-31T18:09:20.096-05:00I would prefer if possible we kept it to the secti...I would prefer if possible we kept it to the sections discussed in the post or previous sections covered. We'll have plenty of time for the others when we get to them.Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-58432205419524929712010-03-31T18:08:47.657-05:002010-03-31T18:08:47.657-05:00PAUL, I DID BUY A NEW POLICY
My costs doubled...$...PAUL, I DID BUY A NEW POLICY<br /><br />My costs doubled...$360 with a $1000 deductible for the first and 3years later $490 for the second grad. That's per MONTH.<br />NO WAY either would or did need it, but IN CASE one of them ran into the Irbys and lived, I had to cover my bets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-90113950172378599492010-03-31T18:07:18.665-05:002010-03-31T18:07:18.665-05:00PAUL, PLEASE..could you object to the 4 sections r...<i>PAUL, PLEASE..could you object to the 4 sections rather than what's NOT under discussion?</i><br /><br />Are you the moderator here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3644809381067185082010-03-31T18:05:14.727-05:002010-03-31T18:05:14.727-05:00Please look up actuarial tables for health care fo...Please look up actuarial tables for health care for those 18-26. Where's the cost? I only see a guaranteed profit to insurance companies on those collected rates.<br /><br />Where's the cost to the taxpayer on the next section? So, a CEO getting big bonuses has less ? I'm weeping with pity.<br /><br />So , far...where's the COST to the taxpayer? PLEASE be specific.<br /><br />We'll get to some, but not yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-76979251745519575582010-03-31T18:05:08.294-05:002010-03-31T18:05:08.294-05:00Sorry, I was unaware that Page 22. Section 2714 wa...Sorry, I was unaware that Page 22. Section 2714 was NOT under discussion now.Paul Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07825674914008378242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-78800363435634310542010-03-31T18:04:37.454-05:002010-03-31T18:04:37.454-05:00Please look up actuarial tables for health care fo...Please look up actuarial tables for health care for those 18-26. Where's the cost? I only see a guaranteed profit to insurance companies on those collected rates.<br /><br />Where's the cost to the taxpayer on the next section? So, a CEO getting big bonuses has less ? I'm weeping with pity.<br /><br />So , far...where's the COST to the taxpayer? PLEASE be specific.<br /><br />We'll get to some, but not yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-89415320711791633332010-03-31T17:59:23.441-05:002010-03-31T17:59:23.441-05:00YEAH for 2716! That's the closest thing to a f...YEAH for 2716! That's the closest thing to a flat tax we can get!<br /><br />Of course, those of you who find it fairer to let upper management pay , say, 10% of six figures for their health insurance and some poor slob making 5 figures paying a greater percentage for less coverage, please stand up!<br /><br />Those standing, put down the tequila, you are too drunk to make intelligent decisions.<br /><br />PAUL, PLEASE..could you object to the 4 sections rather than what's NOT under discussion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-26516587898666132542010-03-31T17:58:57.043-05:002010-03-31T17:58:57.043-05:00Anon 5:53, just out of curiosity, why did you not ...Anon 5:53, just out of curiosity, why did you not just buy the kids a new policy if you wanted to pay for them? That seems strange.Paul Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07825674914008378242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-83694223472732871842010-03-31T17:53:21.577-05:002010-03-31T17:53:21.577-05:00OK...
I am at a loss about the objections to PAREN...OK...<br />I am at a loss about the objections to PARENTS WITH HEALTH INSURANCE PAYING UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THAT CHILD HAS COVERAGE AS AN EMPLOYEE.<br /><br />NOW WE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR ALL CHILDREN OVER 18 AND NOT IN SCHOOL WHOSE PARENTS RAISED THEM TO BE BUMS!<br /><br />My kids had 6 and 1 year before coverage though IMMEDIATELY hired after graduation. I would have LOVED to just continue coverage on our policy.<br /><br />It's either Medicaid or "free" ER care for the shiftless kid or their parents' responsibility. I'm ALL for making it the parents' responsibility!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-69981094484259491912010-03-31T11:30:20.107-05:002010-03-31T11:30:20.107-05:00Over the weekend I'm going to start a post tha...Over the weekend I'm going to start a post that is constantly updated that will be a fact sheet. One sentence blurb and page number as I come across them. Probably would've had two today, one yesterday.Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-18594989656020468352010-03-31T11:24:36.292-05:002010-03-31T11:24:36.292-05:00GREAT Question! Does this impact state government...GREAT Question! Does this impact state government, quasi-government, public organizations...and how? Interesting. We need to keep a running list of questions somehow to make sure we are answering the very issues most impactful in a meaningful day-to-day life of an ordinary citizen.KaptKangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205368935149517936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-59023992732761663782010-03-31T10:53:32.489-05:002010-03-31T10:53:32.489-05:00Then there are universities and colleges which giv...Then there are universities and colleges which give their presidents sweet benefits packages. What about those plans? Seems they go out the window.Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-68239638044222751742010-03-31T10:47:01.867-05:002010-03-31T10:47:01.867-05:00Don't know. We are taking this page by page. ...Don't know. We are taking this page by page. <br /><br />NOW here is a question based on page 29: Will it apply to the MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE?Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-75300015172541680932010-03-31T10:46:35.132-05:002010-03-31T10:46:35.132-05:00Did I mention, I'm gonna suffer through this t...Did I mention, I'm gonna suffer through this too. I'm thinking I might just start a daily meeting to discuss with my peers. Nice approach. And already, I'm very confused. I'm hoping to at least get the gist of the important segments of the legislation. Or, understand where I best come out on this and work to get there now, rather than later.KaptKangaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04205368935149517936noreply@blogger.com