tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post5005641972267888514..comments2024-03-29T05:32:54.378-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Sid Salter: Wood Pellets Plant Creates New Markets for State's TimberKingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-67774441558040264382019-05-16T12:39:17.392-05:002019-05-16T12:39:17.392-05:00A lot of people are ready to jump on board with wh...A lot of people are ready to jump on board with whatever is trendy. Even Fox Noooz is going more and more GREEN. Before long Hannety will be supporting wind mills and gun free zones.Rod Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14028117522559695331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-64665441875236294462019-05-16T09:57:49.049-05:002019-05-16T09:57:49.049-05:003:42 p.m. - You wasted an awful lot of time with t...3:42 p.m. - You wasted an awful lot of time with that silly-assed post in a juvenile attempt to make one look stupid. All you did was make yourself look stupid. Now you can go back to trolling and shootin' pocket pool in your shorts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-74978325283572812852019-05-16T09:42:24.409-05:002019-05-16T09:42:24.409-05:00@ 7:43am
http://capitalpeakpartners.com/manufactu...@ 7:43am<br /><br />http://capitalpeakpartners.com/manufacturing-plant/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-43164125753542968462019-05-16T08:28:41.180-05:002019-05-16T08:28:41.180-05:00There is a election coming, politicians at all lev...There is a election coming, politicians at all levels transform from cocoons to butterflies. They start talking about how wonderful things will be if we just follow their lead. Government gets bigger, bad ideas get legs, then move forward with no accountability. Get ready folks, the one eyed wiggler is about to laid to the taxpayer on this deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-53198566729778370872019-05-16T07:43:08.285-05:002019-05-16T07:43:08.285-05:00Someone needs to look into the wood pellet plant i...Someone needs to look into the wood pellet plant in Quitman. Government assistance received through Federal and state New Market Tax Credits, plus local government assistance. Lasted longer than the beef plant, but never was able to secure significant sales contracts and went backrupt. What's different this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-70813441702121294492019-05-15T19:21:07.625-05:002019-05-15T19:21:07.625-05:00A few months ago, I saw where the same thing was f...A few months ago, I saw where the same thing was floating around Pine Bluff Arkansas. I wouldn't be surprised that the opposition group wasn't paid by the Pellet Company to make the claim they really are in business. <br /><br />Sounds like a beef plant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3681791186371327202019-05-15T17:40:30.232-05:002019-05-15T17:40:30.232-05:00An entity with which I am associated was given an ...An entity with which I am associated was given an opportunity to get involved with a pellet mill down in George County about 8-10 years ago. The name at the time wasn't Enviva - it was something like Gulf Coast Green Energy or Renewable Energy. Something in the back of my mind says there was another company name involved between those two. It was supposed to be a $25 million deal. Then Jackson County did some financial acrobatics and suddenly a new port specifically for these pellets was on the board. Before we could complete DD it began mushrooming rapidly with many of the typical hallmarks of a too-good-to-be-true (or possible) public funds siphoning scheme and we backed away slowly with hands firmly on the wallet. Within about a year, the whole thing went dark for a time. <br />As another reply pointed out, if this were all private investment capital seeking a healthy return on the investment, I'd say welcome and a sincere wish for many years of success for the company, the workers and the counties involved. With public money involved, I'd say no way, no how and it will end with screwed taxpayers and enriched hogs with their snouts in the trough.<br /><br />While "scam" may not be proper term as the plant and port would actually exist and there is a real market and industry for the pellets, there is absolutely many metric tons of good ol' Grade A Mississippi-style bullshit along with all the metric tons of pellets. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-42778725866635832432019-05-15T17:35:13.024-05:002019-05-15T17:35:13.024-05:00To compare this deal to the 'beef plant' -...To compare this deal to the 'beef plant' - which wasted $50+ million of state taxpayer dollars - or Kemper that wasted a few billion of stockholder's dollars, shows one's ignorance.<br /><br />This is not "new technology" - which Kemper was. The beef plant was not new, but it was proven through experience to be financially unfeasible.<br /><br />This technology is operating in several places across the south - including in Mississippi. This company has seven operating plants in existence. There is a market for the product (which all the feasibility studies proved that there wasn't a market for the beef plant product.)<br /><br />The state's investment into the project is an appropriate expenditure for any company - water, sewer, roads - all basic infrastructure.<br /><br />No company that builds a new plant has to install its own water supply, or build its own roads. Spending money for those things in order to allow an industry to operate is certainly reasonable. (see the "treetops lane" road in Flowood; Or the East Metro Parkway for local examples of what providing infrastructure is and how it allows businesses to locate.)<br /><br />A prime example in the opposite direction is Puckett Machinery. City of Jackson would not provide some basic road adjustments and other services. So they took their business and moved across the river and took their tax dollars with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-49540100662320367262019-05-15T17:25:31.993-05:002019-05-15T17:25:31.993-05:00Why do you want to give the money to Louisiana? Tr...Why do you want to give the money to Louisiana? Trump's already saying he's going to give them a new bridge and Mississippi is going to pay for it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-80651693777647164682019-05-15T16:13:46.381-05:002019-05-15T16:13:46.381-05:00Why can't we ship them natural gas instead?Why can't we ship them natural gas instead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-87481206345493946652019-05-15T15:42:16.792-05:002019-05-15T15:42:16.792-05:009:15 - reading is a wonderful thing. And a great ...9:15 - reading is a wonderful thing. And a great tool. I realize that today's kids would rather ask questions than read or research and maybe that applies to folks that click on to JJ occasionally.<br /><br />IN the article posted, the one written by Salter that you are commenting on, it says that these pellets are shipped to these other countries "to be burned to create electricity". <br /><br />hopefully, my answer to your inquiry wasn't too long that you chose not to read it for yourself - and I'm pleased to be able to provide you with an answer to your probing inquiry.Third grade reading gatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-73015372081084956502019-05-15T15:35:20.153-05:002019-05-15T15:35:20.153-05:00Are these the same people who say they will buy fl...Are these the same people who say they will buy flying carp in the Delta and ship them to China?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-10814638907474455252019-05-15T15:24:20.351-05:002019-05-15T15:24:20.351-05:0010:54 - Who the hell do you think believes Europe ...10:54 - Who the hell do you think believes Europe and Asia are out of trees, firewood and timber?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-60400033500537218312019-05-15T13:53:36.666-05:002019-05-15T13:53:36.666-05:00In the same way the beef plant created new markets...In the same way the beef plant created new markets for the state's cows, right, Sid? When I worked with you at The Clarion-Ledger, you had more sense than this. What happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-74648440366101836322019-05-15T11:01:22.523-05:002019-05-15T11:01:22.523-05:00New technology. That is hilarious. If it create...New technology. That is hilarious. If it creates jobs and doesn't require tax money, I'm all for it. But it ain't gonna save Mississippi nor is it going to destroy the planet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-54871280539660532452019-05-15T10:54:00.377-05:002019-05-15T10:54:00.377-05:00Power plants stopped burning coal in Great Britain...Power plants stopped burning coal in Great Britain. They now use US produced wood pellets and there aren’t enough to make demand.Anon-E-Mousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17290415966352650038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-57418530018009448062019-05-15T10:06:10.804-05:002019-05-15T10:06:10.804-05:00If it is so lucrative to the parent company and it...If it is so lucrative to the parent company and its' investors, let them provide the capital financing. This has already been floated in southwest Mississippi and could not make it without government funding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-87783150889349903862019-05-15T09:41:39.168-05:002019-05-15T09:41:39.168-05:00Timber is a renewable crop which is managed by the...Timber is a renewable crop which is managed by the growers. These tree huggers are out of touch with reality.<br /><br />Doesn't Mississippi also have a charcoal production plant in the northern part of the state? Like briquettes for your Green Egg? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-2507053775282798892019-05-15T09:39:12.220-05:002019-05-15T09:39:12.220-05:00I'd suggest anyone interested in this issue an...I'd suggest anyone interested in this issue and this pellet plant look into the long history of it. Will it finally get built? Maybe. Will it live up to the hype and warrant the expenditure of taxpayer dollars? Not the slightest chance - refer to recent JJ topics like Kemper and the Shuckers stadium on the coast to every other boondoggle that has been used to loot tax dollars/other people's money.<br /><br />One of the real problems in using "outside funding" (taxpayer, OPM, "investors," etc.) for things like this is that there is a huge industry, much of it real, working feverishly to make oil, wood, coal, etc., unnecessary and obsolete fuel source(s). Just as "desktop computers in every home" were, in 1979, thought of fantasy by many and within 20 years, cell phones (also a rare thing 20 years prior) had more computing power than many corporate systems 20 years prior, there is at least a reasonable chance that this pellet mill will become obsolete much sooner than projected by its proponents. Making projections using long timeframes on things that are being rapidly and actively outdated is simply bad business/economics; it is akin to the proverbial buggy whip manufacturer making long term factory plans at the dawn of the automotive age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-35575168955886855562019-05-15T09:21:17.891-05:002019-05-15T09:21:17.891-05:00to 8:56..... europe?.....kyoto protocol? paris a...to 8:56..... europe?.....kyoto protocol? paris agreement ? wow, pretty beefy terms. do you really expect anyone around here to know what you are talking about? kyoto protocol? what is that ? some kind of diet? help us poor cotton choppers out.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-53638718591072998402019-05-15T09:15:03.863-05:002019-05-15T09:15:03.863-05:00Pardon my ignorance, but, these three million metr...Pardon my ignorance, but, these three million metric tons that are exported to Europe and Asia....are used for what, exactly?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-70424818961296013812019-05-15T08:56:43.262-05:002019-05-15T08:56:43.262-05:00Wood pellets shipped to Europe are a result of the...Wood pellets shipped to Europe are a result of the "environment-friendly" Kyoto Protocol and subsequent Paris Agreement, which require those countries to shift more of their energy consumption to renewable energy. Trees happen to fall into this category. Not only is this Dogwood group chasing their tail, they appear to have caught it and continue to run around in circles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-28619967307753362822019-05-15T08:14:09.318-05:002019-05-15T08:14:09.318-05:00Having been in NYC a couple of weeks ago I suggest...Having been in NYC a couple of weeks ago I suggest Mary work on environmental issues in her home town rather than rural Mississippi. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com