Tuesday, December 6, 2011

FOOD FIGHT!!!

Looks like the Downtown Jackson Trash blog and the JFP tied up. The local weekly alternative "newspaper" published an editorial about using firearms for self defense. What drew the ire of the editorial was apparently some unnamed JPD officers have told people to "buy a gun" to deal with crime. The editorial took strong exception to such advice. Link to editorial. Ms. Ladd followed up with her own comments when readers started debating the merits of using firearms for self-defense:

"Just catching up y'all after vacation. Only one comment: sigh. We have an issue full of big-idea and evidence-based information about fighting and preventing crime, and some of you only care about any thoughts about telling fewer people to get themselves a gun.

And I guess it hasn't occurred to some of you the lunacy of police officers telling young people that without talking about safety or considering the potential (and costly) liability to the city if one of those young people goes and gets him/herself killed with their new gun on the advice of JPD officers (which would likely cost the city more, Bubba, than finally putting Medgar Evers' whole name on the airport, despite sudden concerns from certain folks about the costs; funny how many of the same ones don't care how much money voter ID is going to cost us, considering that it wouldn't actually target the real fraud).

I really hope the chief has nipped this dumb practice in the bud by now.

BTW, my byline is on the above column, which is an error. For one, I didn't write it, although I agree with it. And for another, editorials are unsigned. "

Well, Mr. Crowley over at the Downtown Jackson Trash website took rather um, strong exception to these comments and said so in a rather vigorous fashion:

"The DJT's advice to Donna Ladd: Stop giving advice--particularly on matters of self defense. We're seriously concerned that the 6 or 7 people who actually take Donna seriously might take her advice and get themselves killed.

A few weeks ago, the Fondrazon got her anti-gun boxers in a bunch over advice that some Jackson Police Officers allegedly gave to some Jackson Free Press Fondren Daily Worker staffers. Multiple police officers allegedly advised Donna's minions that in order to protect themselves from crime, they should...GASP!...get a gun. When Donna heard this she went off faster than an SKS at the Branch Davidian compound..
." Rest of post

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm sure the cops are chuckling over the advice from the Fondren Flash.

Anonymous said...

OH YAWN...the same tired arguments on guns that we've been hearing for decades.
FACTS don't matter to either side anymore, it's about winning or losing and right fighting. So any sort of rational approach to crime or guns is impossible. Solving problems is the casualty. Anecdotal stories rule and both sides can dig up plenty of them. And, the mantra for both sides is well memorized.
The side with the most money and best organizational structure wins. Or else, it's a calculated stalemate where one side picks an issue that will NEVER be addressed just to keep passions of their base flowing in their direction.
And, on stalemates, here's your hint, we've had both parties in charge and neither party acted on the issue. Prayer in schools on one side and Guantanamo on the other side are but two examples.
So, I read a Curt and Donna figure them, at best, to be right fighters who'd never admit to being wrong about anything.

Anonymous said...

WELCOME Jackson Free Press readers. All 11 of you!

Anonymous said...

So any sort of rational approach to crime or guns is impossible.

You tipped your hand.

Anonymous said...

While I can see the stalemate on the larger debate constitutionally, I have to admit the right to bear arms is a fundamental exercise of our ability to maintain our freedoms from any tyranny.

To think otherwise is irresponsible. Done with my "stalemate" position. Let's talk guns, crime and protection.

In the context of the current carry debate; crime is only a piece of the argument, only one of the tyrannical influences that assault our freedoms.

This issue is important and there is a correct side given the facts.

While I personally do not carry, I know of a number of people who do. My choice not to carry is out of my decision to live in an area that is relatively safe from crime. I didn't say absent, I said relatively safe. And most of my neighbors own guns.

I'm with Curt on the issue because the truth about the use of guns in terms of personal protection and crime require a lot of knowledge, practice and responsibility. To cloak a gun carry debate in the larger "stalemate" debate is improper; Donna is irresponsible to use this particular issue as a wedge in the larger "stalemate" debate. It is just wrong.

Shadowfax said...

You should all also avoid accepting any narcotic prescription written for you or a family member by a physician.

Survey shows that one bent on suicide will look first for a gun, and having found none, will hit the medicine cabinet in desperation. You're therefore complicit if you knowingly allowed a stash of meds in your cabinet that fell into the hands of one hellbent on self destruction.

Next we will discuss knives in kitchen drawers, Drano under the sink and Tampons that will only be used for alcohol saturated insertion, possibly causing alcohol poisoning or death.

PS: Even though my handle appears above, I did not write this reply. Someone else did.

Anonymous said...

No kidding, 10:55AM words right out of DL's playbook.

Anonymous said...

My rational approach is simple. If you come to harm me or mine, you cease to be a human being and become a target to be serviced down range. Period.

Anonymous said...

JFP has a knack for saying nothing of substance in 10 or more paragraphs. The comic, astrology, puzzle peeps, as well as the writers, must be living in an alternate universe where meth, LSD, and mushrooms are worshiped. How in the hell are they able to keep printing?

Anonymous said...

Have you seen Boom? I think it's a magazine of fashion? All it has are pages and pages of restaurant menus.

Can someone say lets throw everything against the wall and see what sticks?

Anonymous said...

I was always scared of guns, but after a black neighbor trespassed and threatened me and JPD told me I would be put in jail if I called 911 again, I decided to implore my own form of un-racially biased means of protection. My 357 snub-nose is here to protect this single white chick and her children when JPD refuses to do so simply because we are white. DL can kiss my big, fat, white ass.

Anonymous said...

The Jackson VIP is another worthless piece of crap.

Aren't these people supposed to be environmentally conscious?

Apparently destroying the rain forest is not as important as publicizing pure bullshit.

KaptKangaroo said...

Hey, the same exact people with lots of money need a yearbook too, although I agree, monthly is a bit over top.

KaptKangaroo said...

And, if all it takes is a magazine to continue to encourage the charity work the contributors do in this town, I say go VIP.

Anonymous said...

That rag is not encouraging charity work. It's merely groveling in a puddle of warm, brown self aggrandizement. And if people donate to charity simply to get their drunken photos in that rag, I wouldn't want their charity. Reminds me of all the Hollywooders at the rehab place rushing to watch eEntertainment to see if they're on it tonite.

Anderson said...

My 357 snub-nose

How many feet away can one fire such a thing with any hope of accuracy? Serious question.

meople said...

20 to 40 depending on what you are shooting @ or how much you practice... FYI I practice weekly. Or you can slap a laser on it and be much more accurate.

Curt Crowley said...

"The Jackson VIP is another worthless piece of crap."

I beg to differ. VIP sometimes has a lot of hot chicks in it (well, hot by Jackson standards).

Anonymous said...

Dear Lord protect this community from the insane lunacy of Donna Ladd.

posted by DonnaLadd on 12/07/11 at 01:42 PM:
I will also add that I lost a depressed family member to suicide due to easy access to a gun just as so many other families have.

Merriam-Webster defines "due to" as follows: : as a result of : because of

Get some counseling Ladd. You have lost your mind. There can be NO "serious conversation" about firearms with a raving mad lunatic. None.

Kingfish said...

Could've worded it better but I know what she meant. Probably were obvious signs and people didn't take proper steps to cut off the access. However,lets be honest, if someone wants to really do it, not much you can do to stop him.

Anonymous said...

lock and load! most people I know WILL defend themselves even if all 9 of the JFP readers object.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry Kingfish but this is not a matter of Ladd being less than precise. She's out to make a case against guns and abusing a family suicide as if the weapon, and access to the weapon, was somehow a causal factor in the actual death. BULLSHIT.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 4:17. Attempting to push your anti-gun agenda by capitalizing on a family suicide is lower than low. Also, KF may want to know that following a great majority of suicides (In adults, all of whom were depressed) almost every family member says "I had no idea" or "I did not notice a thing different". It's rarely possible to 'take proper steps'. You may want to run your 'hipshot theory' by a psychologist, KF.

Anderson said...

Thanks, Meople! I suppose I should get out to a firing range with my .38 sometime.

(Tho if I ever have to use it, I'm anticipating the range won't be an issue.)



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