tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post962594765185473065..comments2024-03-28T15:21:54.511-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Was the fight over the aiport all for nothing? Kingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-12985372148388800512016-08-14T20:02:22.008-05:002016-08-14T20:02:22.008-05:00If the people in Jackson took care of their outhou...If the people in Jackson took care of their outhouses like they should there wouldn't be a problem with the sewer plant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-11971790721938582016-08-12T16:45:02.499-05:002016-08-12T16:45:02.499-05:00@1:49 - the sewer treatment plant is run and contr...@1:49 - the sewer treatment plant is run and controlled by the City of Jackson. Over the past several years, it has been found to be run improperly by governing authorities - DEQ, EPA, etc. It has not disposed of the sludge accumulated over the past decade. <br /><br />And - the sewage going into the plant comes from parts of Rankin County, Madison County, and Jackson. So - the people filling it up includes several locales. People in these areas don't have a choice on where they decide to deposit their waste - or where it is treated. The effulant from the plant affects many communities from I-20 south, down the Pearl River. <br /><br />The airport, on the other hand, serves those that choose to use it. You can fly or you can drive or you can take the bus. If you choose to fly, you can use this regional airport, or the one in Meridian, or the one in the Golden Triangle, or you can go to NOLA or Memphis. How it is run does not affect other people like the treatment plant does. And, BTW, it is being run very effectively when compared to other airports serving similar population areas.<br /><br />So - the state taking over the treatment plant is not only a reasonable concept but one that should be done for the health and quality of life of probably 25% of the state. But there is no money or power to be gained from such a takeover. <br /><br />The airport, on the other hand, has no arguable reason for a state takeover (and yes, 4:00, it is absolutely a state takeover when the ownership of the property is taken from the city and put into a board that the city does not appoint) other than there is money to be made from developing the unused land. Follow the money, and you will see why the airport is being confiscated by the state and not the regional treatment plant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-57872614965721170802016-08-12T16:00:02.193-05:002016-08-12T16:00:02.193-05:00I love how 10:47 and other idiots say this is a &q...I love how 10:47 and other idiots say this is a "State Takeover". Please explain what that means. Nobody from the state will be running the airport. The counties have two pics. the City has two pics, the National Guard has a rep, MDA has a rep and the Gov and Lt Gov have three total. Carl Newman runs the damn airport and will continue to. How does the state run any of this shit? That is such a tired and lame cop out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-50991404569515953232016-08-12T13:49:24.530-05:002016-08-12T13:49:24.530-05:00What the hell does the sewer plant have to do with...What the hell does the sewer plant have to do with the airport? Shouldn't the people filling up the sewer plant be the people who takes care of it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-25468884729944043512016-08-12T10:47:31.515-05:002016-08-12T10:47:31.515-05:00This was nothing but a power grab by state officia...This was nothing but a power grab by state officials. controlling the development so that they would get the benefits, contributions by developers, was one major reason. plus, they want to appoint the consultants, attorneys etc. <br /><br />if state officials were really concerned about operations, then why not take over the sewer plant? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-33115089443592467992016-08-12T09:45:41.582-05:002016-08-12T09:45:41.582-05:00Do the people of the state want the airport to loo...Do the people of the state want the airport to look like the city streets in Jackson? If so then just leave them alone and soon the planes will have to dodge pot holes to land and take off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-4868140008330281752016-08-12T04:57:08.027-05:002016-08-12T04:57:08.027-05:00"I'd like to hear a figure of what y'..."I'd like to hear a figure of what y'all think the airport is worth."<br /><br />'Pends on whether you sellin' or buyin'. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-33957317407561625232016-08-11T21:07:38.831-05:002016-08-11T21:07:38.831-05:00I'd like to hear a figure of what y'all th...I'd like to hear a figure of what y'all think the airport is worth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-91359273720928867962016-08-11T18:55:39.553-05:002016-08-11T18:55:39.553-05:00Didn't the late mayor of Jackson Chokwe Lumumb...Didn't the late mayor of Jackson Chokwe Lumumba (Farrakhan lite) throw out the airport board members and replace them with people of his ilk who held no other relevant qualifications?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-43658807312063015192016-08-11T16:16:47.918-05:002016-08-11T16:16:47.918-05:00@12:46
Obviously, you don't understand "c...@12:46<br />Obviously, you don't understand "consultants". Every county, every municipality, and every company hires consultants or they do the design "in-house". Very few locations in Mississippi have the money to have a variety of professionals on staff full-time. Granted, some consultants, just like some attorneys, are not worth the fees they charge. Others are your hard working friends and neighbors and give really good service for the money they are paid. To me, it is just like your household paying for dental work by a dentist. You certainly do not want or need one fulltime, but when you do, he offers his services for a fee. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-32853953802144970742016-08-11T15:35:45.906-05:002016-08-11T15:35:45.906-05:00Yes, the few folks in the legislature that pay any...Yes, the few folks in the legislature that pay any attention were well aware of the little 'glitch' called the FAA. Senator Harkins told everyone that it had been 'taken care of' - which anybody that has any sense knew could not be true. Many comments on JJ, and in the media, that this takeover by the Repubs in the legislature would not survive, but would make many lawyers rich over the next decade.<br /><br />Anybody that really believed that this bill would accomplish anything had their head in the sand - obviously not an unusual condition during the past legislative session. <br /><br />AND, anybody that believed that the takeover - if it ever actually occurred - would change anything at the airport (airlines serving JAN, parking; baggage handling; courtesy of airline employees; ---- anything) was a real fool. All the things people want to bitch about at the airport are found in every other airport for a city our size, and are not things that are controlled by the Board of Directors of the airport. <br /><br />But keep dreaming - Santa might even bring you a pony this Christmas, even after all these years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3081464572399991892016-08-11T15:29:26.932-05:002016-08-11T15:29:26.932-05:002:34. The state has put zero dollars into the air...2:34. The state has put zero dollars into the airport, unless you count the 'pass thru' dollars that come from the feds, thru MDOT, for the airport. These are not state dollars, but the folks wanting to steal the airport from Jackson have been counting them.<br /><br />The 'other' state money is the PERS match for the City of Jackson employees that work at the airport. Hard to count that match as state money, but Harkins used it in his example during the argument to pass his bill. <br /><br />The reason for this takeover is the real estate surrounding the airport - which has real value to it now that it has been opened up with the new road on the NE side. Anyone who says the airport has little or no value has no idea what you are talking about. It is one of the few money makers of the City of Jackson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-82033611693455871402016-08-11T15:05:21.986-05:002016-08-11T15:05:21.986-05:002:34 The state has put zero dollars into the airpo...2:34 The state has put zero dollars into the airport. None at all. Great false narrative, though. Keep playing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-85811625045099580932016-08-11T14:41:11.408-05:002016-08-11T14:41:11.408-05:00KF, your post is ironic. Lots of bluster for noth...KF, your post is ironic. Lots of bluster for nothing in its own right. You apparently did not notice that the effectiveness of SB2162is expressly made contingent upon approval of the "change in ownership" by the FAA. In other words, the legislature was fully aware of, and directly addressed, this "issue" that you "discovered."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24878221360989579922016-08-11T14:34:06.167-05:002016-08-11T14:34:06.167-05:0012:16 and Kingfish,
from what I have heard the sta...12:16 and Kingfish,<br />from what I have heard the state has put more money in the airport than the city? If not can you provide me with a number that the city has funded the airport? Also what price would you put on it and what are you buying. Right now it does not look like much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-15086765889993101582016-08-11T13:24:12.107-05:002016-08-11T13:24:12.107-05:00People that actually fly will tell you we have a g...People that actually fly will tell you we have a great airport for a town our size. Have you seen the airports in Baton Rouge, Mobile or Shreveport? We are far better. Comparing our route list to New Orleans is ridiculous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-60489344625523186252016-08-11T12:48:55.579-05:002016-08-11T12:48:55.579-05:00If the city sold the airport, it would provide mor...If the city sold the airport, it would provide more funds to hire some more consultants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-19663448405542126842016-08-11T12:20:54.357-05:002016-08-11T12:20:54.357-05:00Exactly. State should buy the airport. Who would...Exactly. State should buy the airport. Who would think some Republicans want something for nothing? Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-63888240832768473692016-08-11T12:16:40.508-05:002016-08-11T12:16:40.508-05:00This is simple. The State should buy the airport ...This is simple. The State should buy the airport out right. Jackson needs money, so work a deal that Jackson will get State funds to help with infrastructure problems in exchange for giving up the airport. Win-Win for both. But "politicians" think they can always get their way. It is complete incompetence that the bill made it all the way without somebody asking if FAA would approve. Shows what idiots we have in that big building (both sides of the isle).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36649722655141256442016-08-11T11:54:49.412-05:002016-08-11T11:54:49.412-05:00The Jackson Airports ( notice the plural) were som...The Jackson Airports ( notice the plural) were some of the worst run airports around. The previous head was horrible. Lost revenue by his actions and has a political appointed board that knew nothing about aviation. Evers airport has run off many private airplanes and there has been no hangars built in 40 years at Hawkins Field. Where tyhere were three FBO's at Hawkins now there is one. Impossible to put another at Evers because of the rules. Airlines have left even though their flights were nearly always full. Why? We will never know! The parking free time was cut from 30 minutes to 12. Efectively giving no one time to do anything! Evers is a hostile airport to use. It needs to be put under a regional management and get rid of Tony Yarbor's pay for play appointees. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-7075493938292273112016-08-11T11:53:52.171-05:002016-08-11T11:53:52.171-05:00Whew! For a little while I was afraid the great st...Whew! For a little while I was afraid the great state of Mississippi was going to do something progressive.It looks like that has been averted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-62725003360930126522016-08-11T11:38:30.103-05:002016-08-11T11:38:30.103-05:00I look for the "or by other legally definitiv...I look for the "or by other legally definitive means deemed acceptable to the FAA" to be the solution of choice. The idiots cant keep the lights on for goodness sakes. And if the FAA wants an appearance by the Appropriations Chair Sen Heard, I am sure that can be arranged. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-65990582479096860792016-08-11T11:02:52.764-05:002016-08-11T11:02:52.764-05:00The State can simply enact a statute stating only ...The State can simply enact a statute stating only Regional Airport authorities can operate International Airports in the State of Mississippi. Then, it's over anyway. .... The State as the creator gets to say what authority any county, municipality or instrumentality thereof can and cannot doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-68027227664311406942016-08-11T10:55:48.637-05:002016-08-11T10:55:48.637-05:00The aiport?The aiport?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928963056168874465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24425277730197767872016-08-11T10:06:43.534-05:002016-08-11T10:06:43.534-05:00Regarding "appropriations", Cochran owes...Regarding "appropriations", Cochran owes more to Jackson residents than to Rankin Tea Partiers. FAA never will go for this. This waste of time and resources should make the list of one of the money savings task forces. Idiots. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com