tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post6261870345143775994..comments2024-03-28T05:05:04.187-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Executioner secrecy bill passes SenateKingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-73854511984332234122016-03-03T11:03:02.486-06:002016-03-03T11:03:02.486-06:0010:36, you are very wrong. Look at all of the law...10:36, you are very wrong. Look at all of the law suits against gun manufactures and ammo manufacturers. Rope manufactures would be in court every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-13228738335752963342016-03-02T22:36:21.045-06:002016-03-02T22:36:21.045-06:00Why be concerned with keeping compounding pharmaci...Why be concerned with keeping compounding pharmacies out of the public view? The simple solution to the problem would be to execute by public hanging. No one could sue the manufacturer of hemp rope for making a product which has many uses and it did a very effective job of carrying out the sentence of the courts for many years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-7591324311574255712016-03-02T16:59:23.667-06:002016-03-02T16:59:23.667-06:0011:57 AM Excellent job Victor, I'll buy you a ...11:57 AM Excellent job Victor, I'll buy you a pint at The Bulldog<br />tonight at 8 PM. It's does sound like a oxymoron, for example, cruel kindness, however, their are millions of Catholics that take birth control, i.e. not everyone follows the Pope totally. Like 10:36 AM<br />said: Someone has to put their big boy britches in each morning. Another example is the Armed Services they kill (execute) enemies of the United States every day. No one has a problem with that. We must stop the rotting of society from the inside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-52233120161582530192016-03-02T15:51:43.991-06:002016-03-02T15:51:43.991-06:00Bullets do not cost that much and are very easy to...Bullets do not cost that much and are very easy to find.<br />Bring back firing squads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-81393261316395818492016-03-02T14:01:01.479-06:002016-03-02T14:01:01.479-06:00"Truth is this is an effort to disguise the ...."Truth is this is an effort to disguise the ... corporate providers of the compounded drugs ... The public employees are an afterthought to put a human face on the government's desire to wrap their actions in a veil..."<br /><br />Bingo! The AG has begged compounding pharmacies to provide this service and sworn they would do everything they could to hide their identities. <br /><br />Problem is the law allows the use of drugs to kill people. I'm not a fan of Hood, but he's is in a tough spot trying to find suppliers to fill the state's laws.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-62136781433389619862016-03-02T12:39:09.035-06:002016-03-02T12:39:09.035-06:0011:42, just get these 3 or 4 public employees some...11:42, just get these 3 or 4 public employees some security (and their families too) and be done with it.<br /><br />Are judges and law enforcement also not subjected to threats? Should we make their identities exempt from the public record?<br /><br />This is plain silly. The public record is the public's record.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-45674049353333700672016-03-02T12:18:45.704-06:002016-03-02T12:18:45.704-06:0011:27 AM I love my job. I feel I'm doing the L...11:27 AM I love my job. I feel I'm doing the <b>LORD</b> work.<br />Always remember we are a Society of Laws; Not mob or dictator rule.<br /><br />Matt 3:12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”<br /><br />Idiom: Separate the wheat from the chaff<br /><br />Prov. to separate what is useful or valuable from what is worthless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-77776170002788588992016-03-02T11:57:05.544-06:002016-03-02T11:57:05.544-06:00To roughly translate @ 11:09:
"O come, Thou ...To roughly translate @ 11:09:<br /><br />"O come, Thou Wisdom, from on high,<br />And order all things far and nigh;<br />To us the path of knowledge show,<br />And teach us in her ways to go."<br /><br />It's interersting to me that 11:09 would quote from a portion of a Catholic Advent Hymn to support his position on capital punishment. The Catholic Church's policy on this matter and the Pope's recent pronouncement seeking a government moratorium on all executions during the Jubilee year are unequivocal.<br /><br />No problem with an individual disagreeing with Church doctrine, just not sure I would cite an Advent Hymn for any kind of support of the death penalty.<br /><br />I would choose this part (translated) of the same Hymn instead:<br /><br />"O come, Desire of nations, bind<br />In one the hearts of all mankind;<br />Bid every strife and quarrel cease<br />And fill the world with heaven's peace."Victor Fleitasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-8330688910370544782016-03-02T11:42:27.792-06:002016-03-02T11:42:27.792-06:00There are plenty of actions by government that are...There are plenty of actions by government that are not 'open' activities and available thru public records acts. There are good reasons for most of them. The fact that overseas companies are not willing to sell the drugs for executions because they oppose the death penalty laws of this country has led to this. Lawsuits against in country companies has led to this next step. If the state (and others) can't purchase the drugs, we could go back to the gas chamber. Or firing squads. Or electric chairs. <br /><br />Stopping the purchase of drugs would eliminate the most humane of this (agreed, non-humane because it does take a life) statute's requirements. But we do have death penalty laws and this allows those laws to be fulfilled. <br /><br />And protecting the companies that assist the state in prosecuting those laws is required because of the folks who (obviously in the minority since the law hasn't changed in this state) want to stymie the state in fulfilling their duties. <br /><br />Those of you that think the execution team should be 'exposed' should read the facts from 11:09. They have a job to do that the state has hired them to do. They should not be subject to death threats and protests just because they do those duties. <br /><br />Would you say the same thing for the folks who infiltrate drug dealers operations? Should we make their names available for public record. Should we make available for all those that think all records should be transparent of the tools that we purchase to fight drug dealers? Same could be said for some members of the military; and some of the tools that they use. Hey, for two decades our country never admitted to having U-2 spy planes used during the cold war. I for one support that kind of 'secrecy'. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24360900809978374032016-03-02T11:27:34.481-06:002016-03-02T11:27:34.481-06:0011:09, if you have a problem with threats because ...11:09, if you have a problem with threats because of your employment, please find some other line of work. No one is forcing you to become an executioner. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-65326071768552748632016-03-02T11:09:31.785-06:002016-03-02T11:09:31.785-06:00All you anti-protection of executioner get over th...All you anti-protection of executioner get over this. Also, blogger go to the library more. Stalin executed millions & millions of soviets by selectively starving them to death (Artificial Famines).Executions in the US are rare that why crime is out of control. I’m an executioner. I prefer to be called a Society Justice Administrator (SJA). We draw lots for the assignment. Death threats & protest are a form of intimidation used by protesters to get try & their agenda across. We get them all the time. We don't wear hoods or Axes.If you ever attended an execution you see us using a syringe.I repeat you see us. Veni, O Sapientia, quae hic disponis omnia, veni, viam prudentiae ut doceas et gloriaeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-86329590958835946602016-03-02T10:36:48.893-06:002016-03-02T10:36:48.893-06:0010:24, executioners are consenting adults who want...10:24, executioners are consenting adults who want to have the job title of "executioner". They sought out the job not the other way around. They are compensated to do this job. The public has a right know who they are and that they exist. <br /><br />They also put their big boy britches in each morning. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-43556308415294613522016-03-02T10:24:33.299-06:002016-03-02T10:24:33.299-06:00Yea, this non disclosure of identity stuff is a sl...Yea, this non disclosure of identity stuff is a slippery slope. We have it with confidential informants, abuse/neglect reporting, witnesses relocation, sex assault victims, juvenile offenders .... oh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-35079012804867285882016-03-02T10:22:35.113-06:002016-03-02T10:22:35.113-06:007:48 here. Prior restraint limits the press's...7:48 here. Prior restraint limits the press's ability to report who and what they see....that's what this bill now does. This part of the execution secrecy bill will die a painful death in court if it becomes law. First Amendment comes 1st in the bill of rights for a reason. <br /><br />Kingfish, certainly you couldn't favor something as outrageous as prior restraint?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-60028302517824856582016-03-02T10:03:00.312-06:002016-03-02T10:03:00.312-06:009:18, exactly!!!! If an execution team member ha...9:18, exactly!!!! If an execution team member has a hang up with disclosure of their identity, then he or she should find another job. <br /><br />This bill gives me visions of the hooded ax-wielding executioner from the 1300s. <br /><br />You know during the great Soviet purge during WW II by Stalin, executions were rarely acknowledged yet millions were still murdered. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-43717049221840356552016-03-02T09:18:16.546-06:002016-03-02T09:18:16.546-06:00When prosecuting dangerous criminals that would ki...When prosecuting dangerous criminals that would kill without hesitation, I assessed the risk and did my job. If someone wants the executioner position, they should assess the risk and then decide if they want the job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24912768229295409762016-03-02T09:12:20.899-06:002016-03-02T09:12:20.899-06:00This is 100% about keeping the compounding pharmac...This is 100% about keeping the compounding pharmacies' identities out of public view and protecting them from lawsuits. As much as I hate stupid lawsuits, the court system should be allowed to do what it is set up to do.....provide justice. If someone wants to file suit against the compounding pharmacies and the court thinks the suit has merit and rules in favor of the plaintiffs...then justice is served. If the judge rules in favor of the defendants...then justice is served. But justice is not served when the pharmacies's identities are exempt from public review....pharmacies which are paid with my tax dollars. <br /><br />I have a freakin' right to now who is being paid with public funds just like everyone has a right to know how much sales tax rebate money Mattiace made from the Renaissance development. Secrecy is bs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-82459632616268532422016-03-02T08:48:37.208-06:002016-03-02T08:48:37.208-06:00It is definitely a step in the direction of Hitler...It is definitely a step in the direction of Hitler and Stalin, even if it's a very small step.<br />Next we should ban coverage of the arrests and trials in cases where the death penalty may be on the table. Perhaps a "crazy" might come after the arresting officer or the judges. <br />I read reports of those things regularly, but I don't recall ever reading an article that listed the names of the executioners. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-13012964959505756702016-03-02T08:32:12.884-06:002016-03-02T08:32:12.884-06:00Kingfish, It's a step down the path toward sec...Kingfish, It's a step down the path toward secret executions. That's not why America was founded. Plain and simple. We are an open society.....good, bad and ugly. <br /><br />If there are real threats to these folks' lives, then they are entitled to 24/7 security for their protection in my opinion. This solution might actually fix the perceived problem. It's not the execution team consists of 20 people...probably more like 3 or 4 people tops.<br /><br />Let's not forget this is an amendment to the public records act. The bill attempts to exempt the records from the public. These are records owned by me, you and every other member of society. Identities of all public employees (even part time contractors such as executioners) should be public because they are paid by the public...period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-12186768929179288292016-03-02T08:26:59.171-06:002016-03-02T08:26:59.171-06:00So, public officials performing government functio...So, public officials performing government functions on the tax payer dime can have their identities kept a secret from the public because they might have to hear from citizens who object to what they do. Sounds anti-democratic to me.<br /><br />What are the legislative findings which make such a statute so necessary now? I know they call this a safety measure. What's the actual present danger as opposed to a hypothetical possibility of future wrongdoing directed at executioners? Is there a significant history of attacks or homicides of executioners inn Mississippi or elsewhere in the United States?<br /><br />Truth is this is an effort to disguise the identity of the corporate providers of the compounded drugs or importers of illegal drugs from overseas, from a marketplace reaction due to public awareness of their involvement in this activity. The public employees are an afterthought to put a human face on the government's desire to wrap their actions in a veil of secrecy free from the public's prying eyes.<br /><br />If a "executioner" or part of an "execution team" is subjected to unlawful behavior there are laws in place to protect them now. Secrecy is not the answer.Victor Fleitasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-42630995867272332772016-03-02T08:16:47.361-06:002016-03-02T08:16:47.361-06:00Didn't Hitler and Stalin endorse secret execut...Didn't Hitler and Stalin endorse secret executions? Is this still America?<br /><br />Really 7:35??<br /><br />Get your head out of your ____... this is NOT secret executions. ALL executions carried out by MDOC are not secret. This is to protect the ones that has the task to do so. Go back to sleep and snuggle up to stokes!Nuff2Saynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-17169638385473747842016-03-02T07:54:26.425-06:002016-03-02T07:54:26.425-06:00So protecting the executioner's name so crazie...So protecting the executioner's name so crazies or family members can't seek revenge is akin to Hitler and Stalin? Wow. Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-20648514224006225452016-03-02T07:48:39.853-06:002016-03-02T07:48:39.853-06:00Is prior restraint even constitutional?Is prior restraint even constitutional?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-12153995553215283312016-03-02T07:35:20.724-06:002016-03-02T07:35:20.724-06:00Didn't Hitler and Stalin endorse secret execut...Didn't Hitler and Stalin endorse secret executions? Is this still America?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-38074667990445984322016-03-02T06:35:11.088-06:002016-03-02T06:35:11.088-06:00I'm shocked that Mississippi hasn't had su...I'm shocked that Mississippi hasn't had such protection in the law!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com