tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post6021447000213024390..comments2024-03-28T13:50:57.648-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Woman struck open manhole & called for help hours before student killed. Kingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-41955483527046637952018-05-27T21:47:40.047-05:002018-05-27T21:47:40.047-05:00@9:21. I have good friends in the JPD and the HCSO...@9:21. I have good friends in the JPD and the HCSO who are involved in inivestigating this tragedy. The comment they made to me when we hugged and grieved (not knowing Franny well, it was just grief that normal people feel over senseless loss) the day after was, "She was going the speed limit and doing everything right, so at least her parents have that." They said a small car like that with the weight (engine) in the front doesn't take much to flip, and her borrowed car went head over heels when it hit the pothole cover sticking up out of the street, no fault of hers. She is a victim who is now whole again, but no one who loved her is, for now at least. I hope your cold, hard heart can stop making judgements when you are clueless about the facts, especially that of a young woman just going out into the world who did NOTHING wrong. And I hope your actions are never misjudged and maligned by strangers if you are doing the right thing and suffer consequences from someone else's mistakes. Try being the solution, not the problem. smh Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-91161294540441762902018-05-21T20:54:12.485-05:002018-05-21T20:54:12.485-05:00Look that 311 is a joke now days. Years ago it was...Look that 311 is a joke now days. Years ago it was great speaking to Andy from 311... not anymore apparently... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-37853751465802762302018-05-21T19:35:00.557-05:002018-05-21T19:35:00.557-05:00Our esteemed Mayor issued a statement that said, i...Our esteemed Mayor issued a statement that said, in part, "We owe a responsibility to the Fortner family and we owe that acknowledgment to the citizens of Jackson," Lumumba continued.<br /><br />(Who writes for him? Does he not speak English as his primary language? He graduated from law school. for chrissakes.)<br /><br />Lumumba said a Jackson police officer inspected the manhole after an earlier complaint and believed it to be secured. <br /><br />(This is at odds to what the original complainant said. She stated that the officer couldn't move it because it was too heavy, and that she left after trying to move it into place. Someone is lying, and I doubt it is the woman who called JPD at 9:00 AM.)<br /><br />The Public Works Department was notified, but no barricade was put up.<br /><br />(No shit. Is this ultimately Bob Miller's responsibility?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24119316062640933982018-05-21T19:29:18.958-05:002018-05-21T19:29:18.958-05:00I live in Gulfport, but I do spend quite a bit of ...I live in Gulfport, but I do spend quite a bit of time working in Jackson. We have our problems with roads down here, East Biloxi at the moment is atrocious, but here's some sugar for your coffee. Last summer, I noticed a cracked lid for a manhole cover on a low-travel street, manhole cover sitting in it at a 45 degree angle, at about 5:00 on a thunderstorming Friday afternoon. I called Gulfport Public Works, told them about it, the person I talked with on the phone had an "OH-Shit, we've gotta get that fixed quick" attitude about it, asked me briefly for my name and address, and said she'd get a priorty work order in on it for the crew on duty. I drove back down that street about 30 mins after making the phone call, and damned if they hadn't already came by and put blinking delineanator cones around the manhole, obviously, it would be a bitch to fix with a skeleton crew on a weekend evening. It was repaired within a week, and Gulfport sent me a friggen letter thanking me for pointing it out to them. Can Jackson follow suit?? We all know the answer to that questionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-91542952083598149082018-05-21T18:13:15.769-05:002018-05-21T18:13:15.769-05:00So...to recap: Jackson is a really big place. With...So...to recap: Jackson is a really big place. With a really, really big footprint (new buzzword). So, for that reason, the cop who was negligent and the contractor who is liable should be given passes. Got it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-87882802859550581352018-05-21T15:30:39.477-05:002018-05-21T15:30:39.477-05:008:35, @10.02. I don't disagree that depopulati...8:35, @10.02. I don't disagree that depopulation is a factor for Jackson, but I think even if the city's population was stable, or had modestly increased, that modern services demanded and needed for a 200k person city could be supported economically here. In other words, an extra 30,000 residents wouldn't, by themselves, drastically improve things. Not that it wouldn't help...<br /><br />Detroit is a case study for the effects of depopulation. If you look at the numbers though, Jackson's reduction in population (200k to 170k) is not even in the same ballpark as Detroit (2 million down to less than 700k). <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-65658584062464992182018-05-21T10:22:28.488-05:002018-05-21T10:22:28.488-05:00What does the "Metro Chamber of Commerce"...What does the "Metro Chamber of Commerce" that was once the Jackson Chamber of Commerce say about all of this. Does Jackson have a real stand alone chamber?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36759309960249210852018-05-21T10:02:19.266-05:002018-05-21T10:02:19.266-05:008:35 That's what happens when a large populati...8:35 That's what happens when a large population leave an area. The area remains the same size but the population density plummets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-61513996455753443512018-05-21T09:32:34.837-05:002018-05-21T09:32:34.837-05:00@8:35 - further reasons for de-annexation. @8:35 - further reasons for de-annexation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-50328333566934831812018-05-21T09:27:17.568-05:002018-05-21T09:27:17.568-05:00@ 8:35am
Finally, a pragmatist speaking on the i...@ 8:35am <br /><br />Finally, a pragmatist speaking on the issue. <br /><br />Just adding to what 8:35am stated. Jackson is a big city that simply does not have the revenue to make the necessary improvements as fast as they need to be done. <br /><br />The capital city complex will help offset costs for the city, but it doesn't help that the city doesn't bring in enough revenues either. The 1% increase on certain purchases have helped. The ad valorem increases will increase education's operational costs, but there are so many other things that affect the city as a whole. <br /><br />You can fuss, cuss, and belittle all you want, but that's not changing anything in the short or long term. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-31140773772432005002018-05-21T08:35:48.003-05:002018-05-21T08:35:48.003-05:00Jackson has a number of problems, obviously. One m...Jackson has a number of problems, obviously. One major issue that doesn't seem to get attention is the sheer size of the city. If you look at a list of cities in the same population range, Jackson is near the top of the list in terms of its overall area (footprint). Those that are similarly sized are distinguishable because of their economic activity. Thus, Jackson is left with a huge footprint of sewers, roads, and utilities, and the need for police and fire protection, with little economic activity to support such services. Additionally, given that it is a state capitol, you have to also factor in all the non-profits and government agencies that do not pay ad valorem taxes. The size of the city is a major issue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-46450656889552694712018-05-21T06:45:18.452-05:002018-05-21T06:45:18.452-05:00I find it amazing we have heard absolutely nothing...I find it amazing we have heard absolutely nothing from kenniff stokes, stamps, and Aaron banks on the city council. I can assure you that they could give a rip since this was a white person that died. That's banks from the southcjackson area that replaced Tyrone is next to the worst right behind Foote... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-55423615504777315792018-05-20T18:40:37.806-05:002018-05-20T18:40:37.806-05:00In the Atlanta area it started with Sandy Springs....In the Atlanta area it started with Sandy Springs. In 2005. Now 10 communities have been formed from former parts of Atlanta. It is called the "city hood movement". Very same problems as Jackson, incompetence and corruption run amok. Here is the link: https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/03/tale-of-new-cities/555263/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-87620865879476497452018-05-20T16:45:52.824-05:002018-05-20T16:45:52.824-05:00Ashby Foote gave WLBT a quote Friday in a lengthy ...Ashby Foote gave WLBT a quote Friday in a lengthy piece about the city's investigation and how little officials are willing to talk about right now.<br /><br />"I have spoken to the mayor and [interim] chief of police about the importance of being responsive to 311 and 911 calls," Foote said. "They agree with that as well. We need to make sure our first responders and professional services are handled in a professional manner."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-5694081491319262742018-05-20T16:00:54.003-05:002018-05-20T16:00:54.003-05:00the hypocrisy of the up-tight, right wing republic...the hypocrisy of the up-tight, right wing republican nazi party trolls on this site is amazing. a week ago you were all jumping up and down screaming about the civil justice system and how the plaintiffs bar is to blame for all the misery in their lives and everything that is wrong with the country . over the last couple of days your tune changes to " sue everybody and everything right out of existence. " whats the matter ? cant you make up you mind? you are all graduates of the SEC school of whats working now and dont know history past last tuesday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-2562488226092784312018-05-20T15:47:49.935-05:002018-05-20T15:47:49.935-05:00to 11;08 and 2:21..... yall are quite the storytel...to 11;08 and 2:21..... yall are quite the storytellers. parts of cities do not "secede ". maybe you are confusing that with a tax- grab annexation, like jackson did several years ago when they annexed the growing little unincorporated village of byram. of course several residents banded together and fought it in court and the supreme court eventually reversed the annexation stating that it was , you guessed it, a tax grab. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-17206276996874599432018-05-20T14:21:44.102-05:002018-05-20T14:21:44.102-05:0011:08 - thanks! I was about to help our clown fri...11:08 - thanks! I was about to help our clown friends with a little history. Towns in Alabama and Georgia have successfully de-annexed and left municipalities that did not support them. Taxes in and nothing to show for the taxes paid. Also New Orleans East is attempting this same remedy I believe. Nay sayers must be those whose power base might slip away. On the coast it took a natural disaster to wipe out those entrenched incompetent locals who had no vision. Wonder what it’s going to take in NE Jackson? I’d be at the first meeting for creation of a new entity (LeFleur, NEJackson - whatever you want to call it) but as in Oxford House and other situations a few people allow something to start and then move in slowly to shut it down. Change is to be feared. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-40044555248462862122018-05-20T14:18:56.482-05:002018-05-20T14:18:56.482-05:00Ashby Foote is totally worthless. It is a mystery ...Ashby Foote is totally worthless. It is a mystery why anyone would want that job if they aren't even a little motivated to do something positive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-67886802005416135982018-05-20T14:13:05.706-05:002018-05-20T14:13:05.706-05:00To the next suspect of a deadly shooting in The Ci...To the next suspect of a deadly shooting in The City of Jackson: Do us a solid and confess to lifting a manhole lid, dropping your firearm in the hole and replacing the lid. But you aint gonna tell them where.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-89804455502757257852018-05-20T13:07:05.874-05:002018-05-20T13:07:05.874-05:00Two months ago, a downed tree blocked off Northsid...Two months ago, a downed tree blocked off Northside right before North State. A major intersection. The tree fell on a Friday night and was not removed until Monday morning. Meanwhile, the City had two police cars stationed on either side almost all day on Saturday. <br /><br />And then approximately three weeks ago, someone who was freaking out about the alleged shootings on I-55 at Northside called the police and they sent out an officer to explain to her that there were no shootings. <br /><br />The City has time to have policemen barricade a road all day and make house calls to quash rumors but no time to remove a tree blocking a major intersection or fix open manholes. I'm sorry but what little resources the City does have are completely misdirected. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-77972538965218836752018-05-20T11:20:30.960-05:002018-05-20T11:20:30.960-05:00The Mayor is more interested in playing “radical” ...The Mayor is more interested in playing “radical” than in actually causing radical change. He’s been in office for eight months, but little has changed. He’s not a true radical, that’s just his branding. <br /><br />I’ve personally called, faxed, used the Jackson311 app and emailed city officials with details about problems that need to be addressed, to no avail. <br /><br />For example, there are three orange barrels around a manhole in front of Jackson Academy, the school Frances would have graduated from. There are no warning signs that alert drivers to the fact that the lane is closed. It has been this way for close to two weeks, yet nothing gets done, despite my service requests. <br /><br />After he stated he wasn’t aware of any other open manholes, I sent an email to Bob Miller recommending that he read about two of them on JacksonJambalaya. <br /><br />He said that if I was to provide specific locations he said he would work to have them addressed promptly. I sent him the exact links to make it easy for him. <br /><br />We shall see if anything comes of it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-60047444604195902332018-05-20T11:08:11.884-05:002018-05-20T11:08:11.884-05:008:34 and 9:27
Perhaps you are the bozos. I spent...8:34 and 9:27<br /><br />Perhaps you are the bozos. I spent 33sec and googled up a document that says your opinions are way off.<br /><br /><i>The same statute which grants citizens of an adjoining territory the right to initiate an annexation <br />gives citizens of existing cities the right to seek deannexation.<br />111<br /> The procedures are the same as <br />for citizen-initiated annexations and are covered by the same statutes. This has been a little used <br />remedy in the state. The Mississippi Supreme Court recently rendered a decision in one of the <br />few deannexation cases to arise since the adoption of the 1950 statutes.<br />112<br /> The Court held that <br />the test is the same for annexations and deannexations – reasonableness. </i><br /><br />http://gcd.msucares.com/sites/gcd.msucares.com/files/pdfs/municipal_govt2014book.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-20077541688805774932018-05-20T09:30:23.139-05:002018-05-20T09:30:23.139-05:00No matter what the cause of the failure of the man...No matter what the cause of the failure of the man hole cover it all comes down to failure of the city officials and their departments. The police were called when the first car ran into the open manhole. The came, which surprised me, but just looked then drove off.<br />Who ever the police was should be fired immediately. A policeman should be posted on the manhole until it is repaired.<br />Life is not worth much in our capital city. All of this marching up and down the streets, gatherings to remember some murder victim, and excuse making is not doing a damn bit of good.<br />The only good that could come out of marching up and down the street would be if the people would pick up trash while they were marching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-35004560176416127352018-05-20T09:27:24.351-05:002018-05-20T09:27:24.351-05:00Stop proposing things that can’t happen. It’s like...Stop proposing things that can’t happen. It’s like the commenters here have no sense of law and policy, but will belch about them all day for trolling kicks. 1) There is no mechanism for the state to take over a municipality. 2) Same for breaking away and forming a new city. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-54675702910999624432018-05-20T09:09:50.661-05:002018-05-20T09:09:50.661-05:00The mayor lives off of Pear Orchard Road in NE Jac...The mayor lives off of Pear Orchard Road in NE Jackson, so you would THINK he would care about his own part of town.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com