tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post3903455303957509885..comments2024-03-28T09:22:37.146-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Kelly Williams: Corps building bigger floodsKingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-7728359163749449382016-06-17T07:45:31.099-05:002016-06-17T07:45:31.099-05:00I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Williams. T...I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Williams. The problem is allowing the river to go the the Atchafalaya Basin would be an economic disaster for the entire country, not just South Louisiana. Much of the nation depends on the port of New Orleans. How many refineries use that port? Again, it would be a disaster. 9:39 nailed it. Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-63352184238864855782016-06-10T20:40:07.257-05:002016-06-10T20:40:07.257-05:00To the New Orleans native posting,
One has to won...To the New Orleans native posting,<br /><br />One has to wonder what would happen if we had let nature take it's "course."<br /><br />One has to wonder what would happen if the Feds would have forced those New Orleans businessmen to reimburse (like they promised) those poor people they chose to flood in order to save their fair (investment) city.<br /><br />One has to wonder what the benefit would be for all of the contaminated sediment to move further west in the Gulf, after being more filtered through the Atchafalaya.<br /><br />One has to wonder how much taxpayer money would be saved by not maintaining the current broken system. Morganza? <br /><br />One has to wonder why someone would talk about the Hwy 33 bridge as some sort of confirmation of cuts on the MS River causing damage, without any respect for natural erosion, much less the channel cutting and straightening of the Homochitto (Abernathy Channel, et al) and the scour associated with artificially altering the river course. Of course the Hwy 33 bridge collapsed during a flood in the 70's, it wasn't just lengthened. It had to be completely rebuilt. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-15573132457609068892016-06-10T15:32:53.604-05:002016-06-10T15:32:53.604-05:00"It would also destroy all the cities along t..."It would also destroy all the cities along the lower Mississippi, i.e., Baton Rouge and New Orleans."<br /><br />9:39 - Are you suggesting that destroying Baton Rouge and all the associate corn dogs and possums would be a bad thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-68392572303957883572016-06-10T15:29:58.687-05:002016-06-10T15:29:58.687-05:00@1:47 - yes Kelly, Ashby and all others that are h...@1:47 - yes Kelly, Ashby and all others that are heavily invested in natural gas should be grateful for Kelly's work. Let's forget that our tax dollars established his 'Bigger Pie' and that he is using that forum arguing against the use of tax dollars for private purposes. Minor detail. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-91346684086420523912016-06-10T13:47:53.194-05:002016-06-10T13:47:53.194-05:00Kelly's work on the Kemper plant have been her...Kelly's work on the Kemper plant have been heroic. Everyone in the MS Power footprint should be very grateful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-62902681638944100502016-06-10T10:37:58.176-05:002016-06-10T10:37:58.176-05:00"Elam's book documented that cut offs wor..."Elam's book documented that cut offs worked."<br /><br />We need to remember that there can be ripple effects to these efforts.<br /><br />One of the negative consequences associated with the cut offs are the head cuts that are continuing to work their way up the tributary streams that flow into the MS River. These head cuts are continuing to widen & deepen streams for many miles upstream of their confluence with the MS, causing erosion of private land, and increased maintenance costs on bridges / roadways crossing these streams. Highway 33 bridge over the Homochitto River for instance is some 30 miles upstream of the MS. That bridge has been lengthened in the past and just recently had to be lengthened again. Not to mention the untold number of acres of land along these tributaries that have been gobbled up by this phenomenon.<br /><br />One has to wonder, were we aware of these consequences in the '40's and chose to move ahead with the cutoff's or was this a surprise? Similarly, what are the consequences of sending more flow down the Atchafalaya that we're not aware of? <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-43817332517081014842016-06-10T10:35:03.791-05:002016-06-10T10:35:03.791-05:00The MS River does what it wants. Always has, alwa...The MS River does what it wants. Always has, always will. The more you try and channel it, the worse the floods will be. All of this channelization is killing the ecosystems from the South Delta to the Louisiana Marsh. Kingfish, I'm glad you're bringing this up. I have a piece of recreational land "behind the levee" that has been underwater pretty much since Thanksgiving. The big floods are happening more and more frequently and their severity is much worse. Something needs to be addressed and not by the Corps of Engineers. That's the dumbest bunch of people in contracting. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-69561636653675050162016-06-10T09:50:31.328-05:002016-06-10T09:50:31.328-05:007:37, improving the river has not ever been the ma...7:37, improving the river has not ever been the main objective. Finding a way to funnel tax payers money into a few politicians and their friend's pocket is the main objective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-5220215521345904412016-06-10T07:37:37.544-05:002016-06-10T07:37:37.544-05:00The notion that we can't predict Mother Natur...The notion that we can't predict Mother Nature is not exactly true.<br /><br />We have a long record of her worst and usual and nicest behaviors so we should be able to be prepared to react to what Mother Nature does.<br /><br />9:39 pm, are you saying that there is no way to improve the Old River Control structure or create other controls before the water reaches that control structure?<br /><br />I have the sense that competing interests have long battled for dominancy on this issue rather than co-operated to solve the problems.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-52757741405417119002016-06-09T21:39:29.610-05:002016-06-09T21:39:29.610-05:00The problem with increasing flow down the Atchafal...The problem with increasing flow down the Atchafalaya at the Old River Control Structure is that the Mississippi River would prefer to take the shorter route to the sea. In other words, the Mississippi River could decide that it would rather the bulk of its water down the Atchafalaya. This would devastate Morgan City and all of the petroleum industry. It would also destroy all the cities along the lower Mississippi, i.e., Baton Rouge and New Orleans. So be careful what you wish for. More flow down the Atchafalaya could create an epic disaster that would essentially destroy south Louisiana. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-10704632305934448722016-06-09T16:27:20.614-05:002016-06-09T16:27:20.614-05:00Mother Nature has a little something to teach them...Mother Nature has a little something to teach them. <br />Have you ever tried to pour two gallons of water in a one gallon bucket?<br />When you have no idea on how much water you can expect it is very hard to control it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-78510132970502521522016-06-09T14:24:13.464-05:002016-06-09T14:24:13.464-05:00@12:00. You just don't seem to understand! L...@12:00. You just don't seem to understand! Let me xplne it to you......<br /><br />Kelly Williams and Bigger Pie Forum know all the answers to any questions. Never any doubt. <br /><br />Their solutions are always as easy as they state - because their logic is the only logic.<br /><br />I truly admire Mr. Williams - always have. But, when he (or his ghost writers) get on a subject, they make it very simple. Understand them. Understand what they say. Accept no other version as being reasonable. Case settled.<br /><br />The Mississippi River and its handling is one of the most interesting projects in our country's history. And granted, it has been mishandled many times over the past century and a half - more often than not because of political influence taking precedence over engineering analysis. But the differing engineering opinions as to how to tame this massive body of everchanging water are as varied as the political positions. Too bad Bigger Pie has not just gone to DC, explained to all the folks up there how simple the answer is if they would just listen to the folks that have the answers. Would have saved our country untold millions of dollars and allieved our sufferings.<br /><br />P.S. You have to understand, though - Bigger Pie is an advertiser. Therefore, their opinion always gets postings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-55762264481655054302016-06-09T12:00:36.907-05:002016-06-09T12:00:36.907-05:00Engineers from Eads on down have been arguing abou...Engineers from Eads on down have been arguing about how to tame the mighty Mississippi for almost a century. Tributaries versus levees. <br /><br />The solutions are not nearly as easy as this guy states because...well...weather. Nobody can predict weather.<br /><br />So to claim one way is better than another is way too simplistic an approach...as proven by time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-9455447638873833532016-06-09T11:25:05.692-05:002016-06-09T11:25:05.692-05:00Excellent article. John Barry's book Rising Ti...Excellent article. John Barry's book <i>Rising Tide</i> should be required reading for everyone in Mississippi and Louisiana. It's a comprehensive study of Mississippi River flooding, specifically the 1927 flood and its lasting engineering, political and social impacts on the US. Reading this book on iPad while referring to google earth satellite imagery was amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com