tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post3415417622723548732..comments2024-03-28T18:07:47.511-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Shylock v. The Cherokee? Kingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-33608665952467079222015-09-15T19:35:22.941-05:002015-09-15T19:35:22.941-05:00
Not that I vouch for the accuracy of the NY Times...<br />Not that I vouch for the accuracy of the NY Times, but....<br /><br />New Evidence Should Free ‘Happy Birthday’ From Copyright, Lawyers Say<br /><br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/nyregion/new-evidence-should-free-happy-birthday-from-copyright-lawyers-say.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-33863110430791676942015-09-06T09:09:33.436-05:002015-09-06T09:09:33.436-05:008:25 Attention JPS grads: he's quoting someone...8:25 Attention JPS grads: he's quoting someone known as Shakespeare (ask an SA or Prep student about him). He's trying to bring a little class to this joint.<br /><br />Can't recall which literary lion wrote about the Cherokee though....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-59685272846506887962015-09-06T09:06:00.379-05:002015-09-06T09:06:00.379-05:004:55 Sorry my typo upset YOUR delicate constitutio...4:55 Sorry my typo upset YOUR delicate constitution. I am not paid for my stenographic skills, just the intellectual property I produce. At work someone else types for me.<br /><br />As for your impaired reading comprehension skills, well, there's nothing I can do to fix that. We were talking about "Happy Birthday" being copyrighted. I shared a little I've learned over 30 years of assigning copyrights. Most people can connect those dots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3952544434196781672015-09-06T08:25:25.651-05:002015-09-06T08:25:25.651-05:00Using a classic anti-Semitic slur in the title of ...Using a classic anti-Semitic slur in the title of your post...stay classy Kingdish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-85389020462039070342015-08-31T19:07:01.437-05:002015-08-31T19:07:01.437-05:00at 5:12 PM
What I said was "Happy Birthday i...at 5:12 PM <br />What I said was "Happy Birthday is public domain as long as it is not used for public broadcast." <br /><br />This was just a few searches down from yours.<br />"United States Code Title 17, §110(4) states that singing the song among a group of people "without any direct or indirect commercial advantage" will not constitute infringement either. But keep in mind: "indirect commercial advantage" is very broad."<br /><br />Which leads me to believe this is why so many restaurants quit sing the traditional "Happy Birthday" to customers and use the newer "Happy happy birthday, we're so glad you came".<br /><br />Oh, by the way....use when necessary. ENJOY!!<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzIGMqRznk<br /><br />Now, let's move on.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-5514228371273705032015-08-31T17:12:38.916-05:002015-08-31T17:12:38.916-05:00@ 10:36: The Happy Birthday song is NOT public dom...@ 10:36: The Happy Birthday song is NOT public domain. The copyright is currently held by Warner/Chappell Music, who still collects royalties. More info:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_statusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-40246310615564623562015-08-31T16:55:00.799-05:002015-08-31T16:55:00.799-05:00at 2:36 PM, you have done a fantastic job proving ...at 2:36 PM, you have done a fantastic job proving my points, thanks, even though you did it with your whizmatic 3000.<br /><br />And at 3:28 PM, how did you go from happy birthday to boasting about "copyhrighted" (???) material? I'm reminded of Bill Murray doing "Mr. Roberts" (on National Lampoon) when the bass player complains about being up before noon because it affects his constitution. <br /><br />"Life is hard, it's harder when you;re stupid"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-22730052944095091892015-08-31T15:28:02.567-05:002015-08-31T15:28:02.567-05:00"This thread has proven one thing, people wit..."This thread has proven one thing, people with little, if any, knowledge about this topic will opine just for the sake of opining.... 12:34 AM is a great example."<br /><br />8:09 - 12:34 here. I know exactly who holds my copyrights (yes, I have been compensated adequately for them), and know how they plan to be compensated for their use.<br /><br />What exactly have YOU published/copyhrighted, and who holds the rights to the intellectual property YOU have produced?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-62814281223227114142015-08-31T14:36:58.917-05:002015-08-31T14:36:58.917-05:008:09, in his arrogant wisdom, opines that the rest...8:09, in his arrogant wisdom, opines that the rest of us have no knowledge of the subject. Well, no shit! We came in here saying we were not familiar with this subject. We don't really need a fart blossom to tell us we're not well educated on the matter of ASCAP and music license, etc., now do we? <br /><br />Other than telling us what we've already said, his post is worthless. Wasted space. A total waste of his valuable time. He could have been writing his name in the dirt out in the back yard with his whizzer. Then he could have another Twinkie. Deferring To Wisdom...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-88909883146415079442015-08-31T12:12:37.200-05:002015-08-31T12:12:37.200-05:00If you have a restaurant that seats 500 and play l...If you have a restaurant that seats 500 and play live music and music from an iPod... a license can be had for about $3400 --- and they'll let you pay monthly.<br /><br />Places that don't pay for music need to know, it's not expensive... but if you get caught, it's usually $10-20k to settle.<br /><br />If that's too much, license a Pandora account and the business license that covers ASCAAP, BMI, etc. costs around $25 a month.<br /><br />If that's too much, don't play music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36737232936451751942015-08-31T11:24:33.831-05:002015-08-31T11:24:33.831-05:00Um, the Cherokee's owner needs to find a frien...Um, the Cherokee's owner needs to find a friend who is an attorney to help him out. Cherokee Inn is a corporation. If anyone is compelled into bankruptcy, it should not be the owner, personally, but the corporation. Someone help this guy before he is bullied into personal bankruptcy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-23643023072873442212015-08-31T08:09:52.140-05:002015-08-31T08:09:52.140-05:00This thread has proven one thing, people with litt...This thread has proven one thing, people with little, if any, knowledge about this topic will opine just for the sake of opining.... 12:34 AM is a great example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-7516939073411117882015-08-31T07:23:34.020-05:002015-08-31T07:23:34.020-05:00Mr. McMillan can't get a lawyer and the lawyer...Mr. McMillan can't get a lawyer and the lawyers he had quit because he can't pay legal fees. He can't produce documents ( this becomes a costly process when you are being " papered" into submission) because it's costly. Providing the court documents isn't showing up with receipts people. <br /><br />So, after the expenses of divorce, a major equipment failure expense, weather damage and robberies, BMI pays more in legal fees than they'd get in the settlement to tip the scales to make it impossible for a nice guy to get a loan to stay afloat long enough to overcome financial setbacks.<br /><br />Then BMI has the unmitigated gall to argue " The Cherokee still exists and could reopen tomorrow"?<br /><br />I would laugh if I weren't crying over the state of our legal system.<br /><br />Justice? I don't think so. And, the judge and BMI's local attorneys must not have any judgment or common sense , no friends in town who know the family which means the they must not have friends to let this travesty continue.<br /><br />I support the concept of " intellectual property", but the fact is that if people weren't continuing to hear these songs, there would be no purchase or downloads as they would fade from memory. It's much like getting radio play in the old days...an artist should want it. <br /><br />Want to make a documentary on why voters have become so anti-establishment, angry , and lost faith in our legal and political systems? This story would do it! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3176072584061512102015-08-31T05:38:14.762-05:002015-08-31T05:38:14.762-05:00What about all the violin music played following B...What about all the violin music played following Ben Allen's posts on this blog? And the Dueling Banjos that accompany Tom Head's posts. This Blog is next to fall. Museekanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-71179022726105448912015-08-31T00:34:46.388-05:002015-08-31T00:34:46.388-05:00"what is the difference in what they did and ..."what is the difference in what they did and any other business playing music from their computer routed to speakers in their business for all customers and employees to enjoy?"<br /><br />Simply put, the difference is that someone from BMI when to this establishment to document that they were playing copyrighted music without compensating the copyright owner. <br /><br />In other words, they got caught. BMI doesn't have enough agents to to go everywhere and file suits against everyone who violates copyrights.<br /><br />And 10:36 is just wrong. Hell, Winnie The Pooh is still under copyright thanks to Disney. The copyright laws have been incredibly warped by corporations, especially Disney, thanks to stupid lawmakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-68135397261952314162015-08-30T22:36:48.406-05:002015-08-30T22:36:48.406-05:00Happy Birthday is public domain as long as it is n...Happy Birthday is public domain as long as it is not used for public broadcast. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-19187406961481652412015-08-30T21:58:05.713-05:002015-08-30T21:58:05.713-05:00I suppose they will shut down Chuck E Cheese for s...I suppose they will shut down Chuck E Cheese for singing Happy Birthday at my child's birthday party? Ridiculous. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-89212243859763741202015-08-30T19:46:23.636-05:002015-08-30T19:46:23.636-05:00There you go - Greg Copeland killed the Cherokee. ...There you go - Greg Copeland killed the Cherokee. Thanks Greg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-39519404201026424472015-08-30T17:39:15.755-05:002015-08-30T17:39:15.755-05:00What if I'm in the habit of whistling Dixie an...What if I'm in the habit of whistling Dixie and periodically get applause?Kernel Rabnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-67573943511273622902015-08-30T16:36:55.434-05:002015-08-30T16:36:55.434-05:00Repeal Copyright. Email your senator or congressma...Repeal Copyright. Email your senator or congressman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-77072278291032175072015-08-30T16:18:37.650-05:002015-08-30T16:18:37.650-05:00Who "pays to play" is random at best. Go...Who "pays to play" is random at best. Go to a car show, skating rink, or wedding and you will have a DJ playing recorded music from Al Jolson to whatever was recorded and published last week. Go to you tube, and there is an endless supply of music. Or go to a music sharing site and download your favorite tune.<br />Now, whatever legal woes the above mentioned establishments have is none of my concern, but explain what is the difference in what they did and any other business playing music from their computer routed to speakers in their business for all customers and employees to enjoy?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-78128863936058402832015-08-30T15:35:26.211-05:002015-08-30T15:35:26.211-05:00The law firm Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampt...The law firm Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton who publishes the Antitrust Law Blog is reading this site today. Everyone say hi to SMRH. ;-) Now back to reading <i>The Antitrust Paradox</i>. Kingfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-84556201998948392242015-08-30T15:22:46.752-05:002015-08-30T15:22:46.752-05:00Yes. Snitch. Who the hell else goes into bars, w...Yes. Snitch. Who the hell else goes into bars, writes down all the songs being played, and then goes home to call BMI? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-20845991475977532252015-08-30T15:12:14.664-05:002015-08-30T15:12:14.664-05:002:57 BMI (and I think ASCAP too) offer a blanket ...2:57 BMI (and I think ASCAP too) offer a blanket license for live music, allowing musicians to play pretty much anything they want without fear of getting the bar or restaurant in trouble. As BMI advertises, that fee covers something like 8 million registered and published songs, and most bars pay it to keep BMI off their back. The writers rarely see any of this money (according to several writers I know); it mostly seems to go to BMI and the song publishers. It all has to do with the publishers, not the original artist(s) who originally performed a song.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-74276741410628255182015-08-30T14:57:53.923-05:002015-08-30T14:57:53.923-05:00Snitch? Do you really think it takes an attorney g...Snitch? Do you really think it takes an attorney going to a bar (where there's music played regularly) to snitch that they're, ah, playing music?<br /><br />So, I still don't have a grip on what it would take for this activity to fly appropriately under the radar (I doubt I'm alone in this). Should the band change the words or attribute the record to it's owner prior to singing and playing, or what? Or should the establishment keep track of the songs sung and pay a fee to somebody for each one (which translates to a cover charge where there not already one in effect)?Put A Nickle In The Jukeboxnoreply@blogger.com