tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post2165023681195401481..comments2024-03-28T08:13:03.416-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Bill Crawford: Suit Exposes Charter School OverreachKingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-89109618848119424692019-06-25T11:06:50.944-05:002019-06-25T11:06:50.944-05:0010:02 NEWSFLASH Private schools receive a lot of f...10:02 NEWSFLASH Private schools receive a lot of federal funding. Do your own homework. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-72299453394215335042019-06-25T10:02:11.183-05:002019-06-25T10:02:11.183-05:00922, what private schools in MS receive federal mo...922, what private schools in MS receive federal money? Under what program?<br /><br />And on what basis can you claim that no private school can be created to properly educate kids on local or state or private funds alone? B/S! Several private schools doing a good job of educating kids without local or state dollars and that don't have a billionaire backing them.<br /><br />Ever seen St Andrews in Jackson? Recognized as one of the top schools in the country and it doesn't get local, or state funds and has no billionaire endowment. <br /><br />Run your dribble elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-42181367017897869432019-06-25T09:28:09.221-05:002019-06-25T09:28:09.221-05:00Ah, 7:44:
Mississippi’s Constitution of 1868, dr...Ah, 7:44: <br /><br />Mississippi’s Constitution of 1868, drafted by a biracial convention, was the first legislation to provide for free public education for all children. The constitution established a uniform system of free public schools, by taxation or otherwise, for all children between the ages of five and twenty-one years.<br /><br />Keyword, just for your benefit is 'constitution'. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-29729923490605612032019-06-25T09:22:44.368-05:002019-06-25T09:22:44.368-05:00Y'all might bother to find out why it is that ...Y'all might bother to find out why it is that private schools in Mississippi seek and succeed in becoming eligible to receive federal money.<br /><br />You will not create any school to adequately educate your children anywhere on local or state or private funds alone unless there's a billionaire and then they will dictate the curriculum.<br /><br />And, if you want a college education for your child, you'd best know that all colleges weight the school attended . So , your little precious had better test really, really high on the ACT or SAT or else you are limiting the choices.<br /><br />And, you might want to bother to look at courses routinely offered in the States with the best educational systems and learn what your child never learns. <br /><br />And, parents who have never once taken an advanced child development or education or behavioral or parenting or math course or running the schools is what is wrong with the schools. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-56939831659202821112019-06-25T09:22:08.194-05:002019-06-25T09:22:08.194-05:007:44 - Each state is required by its state constit...7:44 - Each state is required by its state constitution to provide a school system whereby children may receive an education. Additionally, 20 USC ss 1400 requires an individual education program for disabled children. <br /><br />You sound like the guy who wanted to whip the teacher's ass for teaching his boy to read on Little House. Is your name Nels Olsen?Chuck Ingelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-26056806118260769552019-06-25T09:13:42.459-05:002019-06-25T09:13:42.459-05:00"They definitely have standing and will proba..."They definitely have standing and will probably prevail in short order if they have kids in school or pay any taxes."<br /><br />Speaking of 'standing', a group of parents sued the school district inDesoto County last year due to the fact that the state flag is not flown at the schools, as clearly required by law of high schools. <br /><br />The judge dismissed the case out of hand claiming the plaintiffs did not have standing and could not sue a school district. Yes, two of them had children in the system. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36791420587395601802019-06-24T23:30:47.374-05:002019-06-24T23:30:47.374-05:00Does one have to show "harm" in the case...Does one have to show "harm" in the case of a constitutional violation?<br /><br />Or can the court override the constitution if there is no harm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-69602573773355159662019-06-24T12:41:15.365-05:002019-06-24T12:41:15.365-05:006:49 A.M. The "budget" of the school di...6:49 A.M. The "budget" of the school district is based on neither, actually.<br /><br />The state gives the school district "X" amount of money per student. That is true to the students that attend JPS, and they give the same money per student to the kids in the charters.<br /><br />The district, though, taxes real estate for "y" mils per year, based on what they claim they need. It is not based on the number of students enrolled.<br /><br />Actually, over the past few years, JPS student population has decreased from 33,000 students to slightly over 25,000 students, but the property tax assessed has remained the same.<br /><br />What the charter law provides is that the district will transfer to the charters an amount equal to what it collects "per student" to the charters "per student" - so the funds collected from the property tax follows the student.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-24263670222327488022019-06-24T12:35:25.020-05:002019-06-24T12:35:25.020-05:009:43, let's get together, not anonymously, and...9:43, let's get together, not anonymously, and make that bet.<br /><br />The plantiffs have not shown any harm, in fact gave affidavits that their concern was that the district "might, in the future" not be able to do certain things. There is no question that JPS (or any other district that has a charter within it) has standing, but the issue of parents without having been harmed is certainly questionable.<br /><br />I'll make the bet - not on standing alone, but on the outcome. Bring it on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-81970792137135645932019-06-24T11:38:40.645-05:002019-06-24T11:38:40.645-05:00So true Bill the FED's and State's do over...So true Bill the FED's and State's do overstep their authority into local governments matters. Thomas Jefferson was also a great defender of minority rights against the majority. Charter Schools exist for one purpose-to provide an adequate education to those students who the public schools have failed to serve. Show me a county or city that has A or B rated public schools that also have Charter Schools?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-4681264008834336172019-06-24T09:43:29.857-05:002019-06-24T09:43:29.857-05:00Luckily you guys are anonymous, otherwise your mon...Luckily you guys are anonymous, otherwise your money would be taken. They definitely have standing and will probably prevail in short order if they have kids in school or pay any taxes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-17431447099097731032019-06-24T09:01:32.959-05:002019-06-24T09:01:32.959-05:005:14, I'll take that bet. The parents might e...5:14, I'll take that bet. The parents might even lose on standing, as well as their argument on the money.<br /><br />I'll even give you an over under of 6 on the votest against the oarents, and I'll take the over.<br /><br />Hard to win a case when the facts, and the law, are agains you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-26812204370930214652019-06-24T09:00:31.670-05:002019-06-24T09:00:31.670-05:00The " people" may be best at using their...The " people" may be best at using their own money and are free to do so.<br />But, when you are using tax dollars, it's "other people's earnings" and oversight is needed to protect their interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-3825014770333253172019-06-24T08:20:03.169-05:002019-06-24T08:20:03.169-05:005:14 - Take another toke. You're in the Twilig...5:14 - Take another toke. You're in the Twilight Zone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-89194074490547500422019-06-24T07:44:09.846-05:002019-06-24T07:44:09.846-05:00"The nation and the states are obligated cons..."The nation and the states are obligated constitutionally to provide education for youth."<br /><br />Where in the hell did you people get your copies of the Constitution? No government, federal, state or local, is constitutionally-obligated to provide any education to anyone nor is anyone constitutionally entitled to an education of any kind or type (i.e., it is not a right). The primary constitutional aspect of education is the SCOTUS has ruled the equal protection clause requires that _IF_ a state chooses to provide education, it cannot discriminate based upon race, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-65099289655314127392019-06-24T07:09:57.414-05:002019-06-24T07:09:57.414-05:00So many special people in Mississippi and the gove...So many special people in Mississippi and the governor must choose which ones to give special consideration....... and which ones will get the shaft.Rod Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14028117522559695331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-71538650685493618542019-06-24T06:49:01.676-05:002019-06-24T06:49:01.676-05:00Can anyone clarify this question:
Is the budget o...Can anyone clarify this question:<br /><br />Is the budget of a school district based on the students enrolled in that district or the total number of students living in that district?<br /><br />If the number is "students enrolled", then the school district is getting shortchanged when money is transferred to the charters. If it's based on "students living in the disctrict", then the money should follow the student. I suspect that it's based on "students enrolled" but someone out there should know the correct answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-59140601779369952782019-06-23T21:04:05.822-05:002019-06-23T21:04:05.822-05:00@6:01pm: Pay less, expect more. Brilliant strategy...@6:01pm: Pay less, expect more. Brilliant strategy. Sounds like you're out of passes yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36721816772202847952019-06-23T19:05:24.971-05:002019-06-23T19:05:24.971-05:00Oh... Jody Owens child has school choice... he goe...Oh... Jody Owens child has school choice... he goes to Catholic school. He is able to have a choice because he can pay. My 2 kids go to charter school. I can't pay private school tuition. The democrats are seeing black voters favor school choice much more than white voters do. Why not give parents that can't afford private schools a choice. Ok!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-53153384649397528942019-06-23T18:36:26.047-05:002019-06-23T18:36:26.047-05:00@5:28 PM, are you suggesting those of us who still...@5:28 PM, are you suggesting those of us who still live in Jackson should kick in even MORE money through greater pub ed funding via higher taxes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-22297326488879270802019-06-23T18:01:29.020-05:002019-06-23T18:01:29.020-05:00They do not answer to local elected school boards ...<i>They do not answer to local elected school boards and have their own state agency, not the Mississippi Department of Education.</i><br /><br />And thank goodness they don't answer to the MDE. The MDE has just about used up their stupid passes. Can someone explain to me why our State Superintendent of Education makes more money than God?David Readynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-27279672464937147462019-06-23T17:28:16.825-05:002019-06-23T17:28:16.825-05:00The blurb about charter schools was a stretch for ...The blurb about charter schools was a stretch for sure, but he got one thing right...the last 8 years has been nothing but sh** rolling down hill toward the counties and cities. Every time our state "leaders" say they cut costs, they really just pushed costs down onto counties and cities. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-80776108541529367202019-06-23T17:14:40.186-05:002019-06-23T17:14:40.186-05:00Crawford is correct on this one, those *sses wrote...Crawford is correct on this one, those *sses wrote the law and now they will have to live with the consequences. The parents win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-71867070863198435342019-06-23T16:24:08.876-05:002019-06-23T16:24:08.876-05:00If Mr. Crawford's analysis were to hold water,...If Mr. Crawford's analysis were to hold water, Should local government: <br /><br />Set the speed limit on interstate and state highways passing through a municipality?<br /><br />Set creel limits and boating under the influence laws on rural public lakes?<br /><br />Set regulations on sixteenth section land within their districts?<br /><br />Set and enforce environmental quality regulations with a municipality?<br /><br />Set holidays, times public agency offices are open and regulations that control banks?<br /><br />While it's true that all politics is local, it is not true that all regulation-setting should be turned over to locals. <br /><br />The nation and the states are obligated constitutionally to provide education for youth. Local government is not (except as mandated by the state). <br /><br />Mr. Crawford's Weak Analysis..noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-50043677855589468992019-06-23T16:20:59.844-05:002019-06-23T16:20:59.844-05:00My bet is not a 'charter school overreach'...My bet is not a 'charter school overreach' as the headline suggests, but rather that the Supremes will show (7-2) that this was another Jody Owens / Will Bardwell SPLC 'overreach with their latest attempt to move the state in a leftward lirch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com