tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post1284495540126613918..comments2024-03-28T11:02:16.159-05:00Comments on Jackson Jambalaya: Jackson Employee Investigated for Online Hate SpeechKingfishhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06184990110961727404noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-6060252436168239542020-06-06T12:08:24.605-05:002020-06-06T12:08:24.605-05:00Mayor focused on what is important. Just read the ...Mayor focused on what is important. Just read the Barak Patton post, no issue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-48802692581597413902020-06-03T16:24:22.824-05:002020-06-03T16:24:22.824-05:0010:31 here.
Thanks for answering 10:51's ques...10:31 here.<br /><br />Thanks for answering 10:51's question because I was wondering the same thing. I still have trouble following that logic, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion especially when they have their own experiences to back them. Plus, right now "everyone" is a little "crazy" and "off" after the CoVid lock down. <br /><br />Good point 2:50. I can't imagine what many police officers go through. <br /><br />Apparently there is supposed to be a protest downtown Saturday. A lot of the people posting about it have college degrees and low paying jobs. If they were to put their money where their mouth is they would join JPD, JFD, JPS, become a paramedic, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-66321466823258294162020-06-03T14:50:51.094-05:002020-06-03T14:50:51.094-05:00@2:14p- I sympathize with this movement. I believe...@2:14p- I sympathize with this movement. I believe there are many issues that need to be addressed to correct the discrimination. I truly wish this movement would step away from the term "systematic racism/abuse" and focus on terminology to pinpoint and address issues. I think broad terms are what many have trouble wrapping their heads around. Many can find examples of those claiming abuse that have actually benefited from the system. (See KF's latest post for one example.) <br /><br />Since Mr. Floyd was murdered, I have waited and waited for someone, ANYONE, to speak up regarding policies within police departments. This is where (part of) the change needs to happen!! (I'll get to the other half below.) The NAACP came out with a plan to make law enforcement more transparent. This NEEDS to happen YESTERDAY! There are items on that list that can be implemented on a department level... with no politicians involved. I agree with and support the "vote" angle, but waiting on politicians is a DEAD END!! They will take YEARS trying to get folks on the same page(s). They cannot even agree within their own parties... either side!! Our communities do not have that kind of time.<br /><br />The other part of change needed is within our communities. We MUST stop making excuses for reckless lifestyles and poor choices. Our families MUST come first. The more "me" focused we've become, the worse things have gotten. <br /><br />Regarding police, they are human and many experience the absolute WORST of humanity 40 hours per week. I can't understand why our society thinks this is okay. We don't expect soldiers to stay in the battlefield for 20 years straight. Why would we think police signed up to be some superhuman servant who is not affected by the awfulness he/she experiences day in and day out? More mental and emotional evaluation and support is needed. It shouldn't be a disgrace to step away from policing once you've reached your "fill." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-87031409734516685902020-06-03T14:14:02.983-05:002020-06-03T14:14:02.983-05:00@10:51, every life is not in danger in the context...@10:51, every life is not in danger in the context of police brutality. You don’t realize it, but certain groups rightfully fear for their lives if they breathe wrong around the police. When people talk about that experience, people like you belittle and ignore their pain by telling them that all lives matter. If you care about other people besides yourself, you need to have empathy for those that are experiencing this systematic abuse and do what you can to help them fix the problem. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-42390320075203689652020-06-03T10:51:49.082-05:002020-06-03T10:51:49.082-05:00Somebody please explain to me what is specifically...Somebody please explain to me what is specifically hateful about the statement "All Lives Matter?"<br /><br />Isn't EVERY life precious and filled with potential? And isn't EVERY life worth protecting?<br /><br />Explain, please what is wrong with that statement...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-46163306875305806012020-06-03T10:31:50.542-05:002020-06-03T10:31:50.542-05:00"If a house is on fire, the fire department d..."If a house is on fire, the fire department doesn’t go randomly spraying water on every house, they focus on the house that is burning."<br /><br />What kind of analogy is that?<br /><br />Its 2020. 99.9 percent or more of Americans probably know African-American lives matter. Obviously I don't know for sure.<br /><br />What people have an issue with is that to them it sounds like only African-American lives matter. The fact that a major issue not being addressed in the black community is the issue of having a two parent household. 82 percent of young black children in Jackson were born out of wedlock. Yes, good people grow up in single homes. Yes, couples are probably playing the system to save money (black and white, etc). With that said, what is the average white man to do? Help raise a single black parent's kid? They would probably fear looking like a pervert. They go to work, most pay their taxes, and most try to be good to the people in their bubble. Some of them probably didn't get into a certain college or get a certain job because of affirmative action. In Jackson, they have risked their investment in the city due to violent crime largely done by black people that the largely black city leadership won't do simple steps to curve.<br /><br />You know a large number of white Americans descend from Union soldiers, including in Jackson?<br /><br />Have you ever read the entire "what we believe in" section on BLM's website? Do you truly agree with it?<br /><br />How would you feel if New Afrika was instead New Europe and only a place for white people? I think the Mayor needs to address that, just as I think Tate should consider bringing up changing the state flag.<br /><br />God Bless America and Planet Earth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-1319596368827486502020-06-03T10:01:35.971-05:002020-06-03T10:01:35.971-05:00Judge Isaac Parker said: political correctness... ...Judge Isaac Parker said: political correctness... may indeed be political, but in no way is it correct.<br /><br />Best post in this thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-64800104451741497042020-06-03T09:50:41.106-05:002020-06-03T09:50:41.106-05:00This country doesn't have a racism problem. Th...This country doesn't have a racism problem. This country has a "girlfriend" who is too mentally ill to realize she is the problem. Everyone in the world sees it but her. And she blames everyone who has had enough of her shit and dumped her. Never reflecting on herself or her actions as the cause of her own problems. Yeah we can apologize to her and pretend her actions don't have consequences. But deep down we all know the truth. And we know that as long as we stay with her, shes a time bomb. And nothing is really going to change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-58750414661217952652020-06-03T09:40:03.788-05:002020-06-03T09:40:03.788-05:00KF, what exactly did this employee say? Can you p...KF, what exactly did this employee say? Can you post the contents?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-15690307015953301012020-06-03T09:18:51.966-05:002020-06-03T09:18:51.966-05:00@7:14, if the statement has no context, then there...@7:14, if the statement has no context, then there wouldn’t be an issue. The context to where it causes an issue is when people are talking about the justice system unfairly treating minorities and you dismiss their pain with all lives matter. If a house is on fire, the fire department doesn’t go randomly spraying water on every house, they focus on the house that is burning. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-1094179936705712982020-06-03T07:14:45.143-05:002020-06-03T07:14:45.143-05:00When the phrase," all lives matter" is c...When the phrase," all lives matter" is cause for an employee to face repercussions the ignorance that is called "political correctness" has gone too far. It may indeed be political, but in no way is it correct.Judge Isaac Parkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-35662096838991446332020-06-03T01:10:09.768-05:002020-06-03T01:10:09.768-05:008:38 - The conversation doesn't need ME to tak...8:38 - The conversation doesn't need ME to take a swipe at you. Your posts attest to your woeful ignorance of employment law and employer-employee relationships, not to mention your 'work from home' knowledge of the first amendment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-37871242868590979472020-06-02T22:48:59.547-05:002020-06-02T22:48:59.547-05:00Public employees have free speech rights. An empl...Public employees have free speech rights. An employee at a private company does not.<br /><br />also, the Supreme Court has held that hate speech is protected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-52648953174358345102020-06-02T20:38:19.961-05:002020-06-02T20:38:19.961-05:00@3:40p- I've never personally worked for COJ (...@3:40p- I've never personally worked for COJ (betting you haven't either) but EVERY job has new hire paperwork. And, within that paperwork, you are typically signing all sorts of "agreements." It may not be a stand alone formal contract, but I GUARANTEE you they agree to some code of conduct as an employee and something that states the terms of their employment. Whether they read and/or understand all the small print on everything is not my problem. <br /><br />P.S.- My water cooler days are over. I work from home. Your attempt to take a swipe at me failed miserably. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-77783214131728707772020-06-02T17:30:15.793-05:002020-06-02T17:30:15.793-05:00Didn't this lil' Mayor hold some kind of p...Didn't this lil' Mayor hold some kind of press conference about <br />the kid's PBS TV program "Sesame Street" a few days ago ? <br /><br />I only heard a few sound bites on local media, but how what in the world<br />does "Sesame Street" have to do with Jackson, Mississippi ? <br /> <br />All I could think of was the latest Highway Patrol fiasco.<br /> <br />Cookie monster perhaps ?<br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-62524899779657008752020-06-02T16:44:46.784-05:002020-06-02T16:44:46.784-05:00It all depends on the object of your "hate&qu...It all depends on the object of your "hate" speech. Opposition or disgust with the police is just fine. Express your "rage". Say what you want. But the mayor will not tolerate the same expressions regarding the "protesters", violent or peaceful. Jackson is be a hard place for real police. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-72148773516925044492020-06-02T16:25:53.181-05:002020-06-02T16:25:53.181-05:00
Croissant<br />CroissantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-19534431638521461052020-06-02T16:05:51.219-05:002020-06-02T16:05:51.219-05:00Thank god I am smart enough to only post my hate s...Thank god I am smart enough to only post my hate speech anonymously. There are plenty of places online for that. Don't be a fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-48511244016862572832020-06-02T15:40:43.699-05:002020-06-02T15:40:43.699-05:002:58 - Can we assume you're just another exper...2:58 - Can we assume you're just another expert who heard a personnel discussion in the breakroom or gained your knowledge down to the EEOC office?<br /><br />I would suggest to you that 95% of the government employees in this state have never seen nor signed any type of contract. Taking a sworn oath is another matter, but that's not the issue here. The 'employee's hiring status'? What does that even mean. <br /><br />While employees, public or private sector, may sign a statement acknowledging receipt of a handbook, that by no means equates to a contractual relationship. Please cite the basis for your belief that Jackson municipal employees are contractual. Thanks in advance. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-42032537008753629812020-06-02T14:58:38.949-05:002020-06-02T14:58:38.949-05:00@2:13p- You're not correct. The employer's...@2:13p- You're not correct. The employer's "right" to fire depends on the employment contract (yes, the one the employee agreed to uphold when they signed it), and the employee's hiring status. Nothing is a blanket issue. There are ALWAYS "ifs" and "buts"... to think otherwise is juvenile. Just because the employer is a government entity doesn't negate the employment contract or status. Most employment agreements have clauses addressing these types of issues. I have NO idea what COJFD employement contracts state.<br /><br />Employment issues are NOT the place for vague public announcements by mayors. I have no idea what was said or posted. I'm going to assume (I know, I know) that SOMEONE within the HR ranks of the City would have stopped the firing if it was not justified per the employee's contract... we shall see. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-69616347105988616332020-06-02T14:13:17.831-05:002020-06-02T14:13:17.831-05:0011:38 - Not sure where you got that interpretation...11:38 - Not sure where you got that interpretation of the first amendment. That amendment protects us ALL from ANY sanction by the government that attempts to discipline us for speech, thought or protest. All government entities are prohibited from exercising negative responses to free speech. And that includes the termination of employment (and even documenting such in a personnel file). Surely you knew this. <br /><br />You approached accuracy a couple of times in your post, but, on the whole, I would not use your post in an employment law seminar. Breakout Sessionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-77307447268035997912020-06-02T13:33:39.204-05:002020-06-02T13:33:39.204-05:00Was this employee black or white?
June 2, 2020 at ...Was this employee black or white?<br />June 2, 2020 at 12:26 PM<br />_________________________<br /><br />I think we all know the answer to that. You think the mayor is going to make a scene about a black fireman saying something racist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-36844597349955933712020-06-02T13:28:50.416-05:002020-06-02T13:28:50.416-05:00Anyone know what the tweet was?Anyone know what the tweet was?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-21496123830676345992020-06-02T12:48:17.408-05:002020-06-02T12:48:17.408-05:00Just to clarify: To Lumumba, Hate Speech = White s...Just to clarify: To Lumumba, Hate Speech = White speech. Guarantee the "offender" is white, because in his and his followers' eyes, no one else can be racist.<br /><br />By the way, there is no such thing as "Hate Speech." It's a concept made up from whole cloth by those on the left who know others will be too lazy to discover there are no constitutionally-provided protections for same. Seriously, how many people do you know who think "hate speech" is against the law? Too many, unfortunately!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2447438783001404385.post-22162771789417738302020-06-02T12:26:28.259-05:002020-06-02T12:26:28.259-05:00Was this employee black or white? Was this employee black or white? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com